whyyyy

The edge and lamp on top of Last and lower left lamps are fine to be able to stand on imo. Otherwise looks amazing, could totally see this replacing Badlands once it's been playtested and refined a bit.

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was the pro viaduct skin really necessary

spire looks terrible w/ it

it actually looks hot

I think that most, if not all of them, were not planned to exist in the first place. Also, I think it makes the layout of the map cleaner.

This is what I've been asking for, for fucking ever. Look how less depressing it is. I remember when cp_obscure was new: the absolute worst pile of shit, and now it's a moderately decent (at least attractive) map, but people have been too scared to do that to Badlands. We got a new Granary, why not Badlands? Opening it up by a pro v0.1 map would be a nice start.

Even if grass reskins are boring.. It's badlands. Anything but dust and a low sun would make it infinitely more enjoyable. The texture placement itself is a bit shitty around spire, but at least it's a start.

//Jumped around a bit and only really noticed the holes in the floor on middle being removed. I agree on hiding spots and 'bugs' being left in being a good thing, but badlands has some of the worst 1 hammer-unit rocket cockblocks in the game. Especially middle and last cp.

at least keep the vents and the lamps please

I made a strawpoll for which art style people like, I'd like to know even if the mapmaker doesn't plan on changing it back https://strawpoll.me/6959746

The window on mid wasn't meant to be shot through, either. When they patched it out it was reverted really fast, you can't just take something that's been in the game that doesn't have a negative impact on the flow of game-play out after it's been in for years.

I'm a bit skeptical about the lower left lamps, not sure what I'll do yet I guess.
Also, if people dig the Alpine theme of the map I am planning on further detailing and making the general texturing sharper, I just didn't want to put a lot of work into it and have people dislike it so I'd have to change it back.

i personally dont mind it that much, its just that the hoodoos look sooooooo out of place

spire in particular looks awful as mentioned prior

you took a lot of geometry that was designed for a desert map (spire, hoodoos, plateaus) and just skinned them alpine. it looks awful and out of place.

I didn't really want to change the map layout by a lot so I had to keep the hoodoos and make them look as natural as possible, I don't think they look that awful. As for the spire, maybe you're right, should I get rid of the ground texture and just have it all be rock? I've tried that and it looks pretty bad.

This should be used to show Valve what to fix, perhaps, but I highly doubt you'll ever see it in a league. It makes no sense to make every map a _pro version for small changes.

Hopefully. That would be so much better.

spire looks really ugly. probably cause of fps configs but you should still look into it

http://puu.sh/nqiBI/83a08afc1f.jpg

a few lighting bugs. some things are black/super dark

http://puu.sh/nqiCe/0baabc6f7c.jpg

http://puu.sh/nqiCy/6ef57d3b8c.jpg

this prop thing is sticking out of the clip brush and you can stand on it

http://puu.sh/nqiCG/3d6cf78705.jpg

idk if your intention was to completely abolish all dumb hiding spots, but this still exists

http://puu.sh/nqiCk/f812ad3122.jpg

there's also this dumb thing that pushes you outward for no reason

https://youtu.be/YnWRXb7Hgjw

If you're going for a pro version at least keep the old visuals. I can't see how the alpine textures improve anything at all besides making it look out of place as hell. Plus, if this ever gets any real attention, it's going to create a lot of drama around the unnecessarily changed styling.

I have an fps config too and spire looks the same. The problem with decompiled versions of maps is that even when you compile them with VBCT's Final mode you never know what compile settings Valve used when compiling.
Also, I didn't want to remove all hiding spots. I thought this spot is pretty similar to the hiding spot on Process' PC and its pretty well known.

didn't a badlands_pro already exist? hence this video from 2 months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwlDcQa1qkw

did you make that one or what?

can you remove the little plank on launchpad?

and i think a lot of roofs and doorways could be raised or widened granary_pro-style

no

yo biskuit nigga you mapping as well ? small world

This is made by Zafus. (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/174526)
Unfortunately, his version has some weird things like removed clips on the house so people can get up on the roofs of middle. He also removed the entire metal panel on the side of balcony where players can dropdown from trash. Personally I thought these changes were bad for the map as it is already hard to push out from last point.
Also, its worth to mention that his version was made using the old badlands which had holes in the middle point, small rocks screwing the surfs on launchpad and so on.

eyyyyyyyy

badlands doesn't need a pro version

I'm planning on returning the map to its original theme just for the sake of it. Also, I will remove the planks but I don't think widening doorways is a good idea.

• Fixed Spire collision mesh
• Fixed rails on Mid to splash properly
• Fixed all stairs to splash properly
• Fixed sticky bomb exploits
• Fixed railings in Lobby and last to have disabled collision for bullets and projectiles
• Fixed an invisible edge on Shithouse that messed the Valley to enemy Balcony wall jump
• Fixed the stairs on Choke to surf normally

These are enough things to have an excuse to make a pro version

please don't pull a granary_pro and remove literally all the charm from the map

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/550933846706140209/208C8822EA39F37F2BED8BBCA05BF66EB987F9F9/

this fence needs clipping and on the other side