Fuck, at this point why not make all bathrooms unisex?
What's even the point of mens and womens restrooms if gender is going to be arbitrary? If people are allowed to use whatever bathroom they want, then what's even the point of having separate bathrooms anymore?
Fuck, at this point why not make all bathrooms unisex?
What's even the point of mens and womens restrooms if gender is going to be arbitrary? If people are allowed to use whatever bathroom they want, then what's even the point of having separate bathrooms anymore?
Hmmm I found this interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHt7EBCgJnI
i hope you arnt using that as something that supports your argument
i hope you arnt using that as something that supports your argument
[quote=kittyn]wit her boob comin out[/quote] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOEHRsRIodI
i like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video
i like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video
nitei like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video
Took me 60 seconds to find that video. I typed "transgender bathroom" and it was like the second result. Quite amazing that it just came out like 2 days ago.
I actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to. But, believe what you want, and let the insults continue. Whatever strokes your ego. :)
On a side note, this JoeySalads guy has some pretty interesting videos check em out never heard of him until a few minutes ago. This one was interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0
[quote=nite]i like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video[/quote]
Took me 60 seconds to find that video. I typed "transgender bathroom" and it was like the second result. Quite amazing that it just came out like 2 days ago.
I actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to. But, believe what you want, and let the insults continue. Whatever strokes your ego. :)
On a side note, this JoeySalads guy has some pretty interesting videos check em out never heard of him until a few minutes ago. This one was interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0
dollarlayerI actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to.
what did you say to the emails
[quote=dollarlayer]I actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to.[/quote]
what did you say to the emails
u made this thread and have been arguing in it for 12 pages straight, if you can't be assed to spend more than 60 seconds looking for something to support ur bs why are u still posting?
o wait it's because there isn't anything that actually supports ur argument right
u made this thread and have been arguing in it for 12 pages straight, if you can't be assed to spend more than 60 seconds looking for something to support ur bs why are u still posting?
o wait it's because there isn't anything that actually supports ur argument right
did you know that implying an argument is wrong purely on the basis it contains a fallacy is fallacious in itself?
fresh tbh
did you know that implying an argument is wrong purely on the basis it contains a fallacy is fallacious in itself?
fresh tbh
are you actually posting prank youtube videos as (anecdotal) evidence? As a serious attempt? I cannot believe anyone could actually be that dense, you must be trolling.
are you actually posting prank youtube videos as (anecdotal) evidence? As a serious attempt? I cannot believe anyone could actually be that dense, you must be trolling.
SpaceGhostsCoffeeare you actually posting prank youtube videos as (anecdotal) evidence? As a serious attempt? I cannot believe anyone could actually be that dense, you must be trolling.
Just having fun. :) It's actually not a prank video, its a social experiment video. You can take it for what its worth, but it still points out that if you look like a creepy male cross dresser, the majority of women are going to have a problem with you in their bathroom, but you can still be within the bounds of the law (in some states).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9_C8ZV4B_I
The article that supports the above video was already posted a few pages ago, but it just shows how silly the laws are.
[quote=SpaceGhostsCoffee]are you actually posting prank youtube videos as (anecdotal) evidence? As a serious attempt? I cannot believe anyone could actually be that dense, you must be trolling.[/quote]
Just having fun. :) It's actually not a prank video, its a social experiment video. You can take it for what its worth, but it still points out that if you look like a creepy male cross dresser, the majority of women are going to have a problem with you in their bathroom, but you can still be within the bounds of the law (in some states).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9_C8ZV4B_I
The article that supports the above video was already posted a few pages ago, but it just shows how silly the laws are.
This entire thread is just because mustard called you out as racist, yeah?
This entire thread is just because mustard called you out as racist, yeah?
How can you consider this a social experiment video...
He had a sample size of 5 people
He filmed in 1 location
He filmed in what seems to me like a really small time frame of about an hour maximum, maybe the reactions would vary depending on time of the day or day of the week
What kind of building the bathroom was in (i.e. business building vs restaurant vs hospital)
How many attempts where actually recorded
Why did he "experiment" with only MtFs and not vice versa
He cross-dressed and admitted to cross-dressing then said it's negatable because he can claim he's trans. If you had someone who very blatantly tail you around to a bathroom, staring at you and then saying i'm trans whats the problem bro that doesn't change that what he did was creepy and unprovoked. He dressed like a girl and then got his friend to pass him off because thats what's certifiable, just one random person, then went ahead to stalk women to the bathroom for about 20 minutes and edited the video to elicit a negative response. How is any of that scientific or experimental? You're really hopeless for appreciating a prankster who has been and forever be continuously moronic with every video that he uploads.
How can you consider this a social experiment video...
He had a sample size of 5 people
He filmed in 1 location
He filmed in what seems to me like a really small time frame of about an hour maximum, maybe the reactions would vary depending on time of the day or day of the week
What kind of building the bathroom was in (i.e. business building vs restaurant vs hospital)
How many attempts where actually recorded
Why did he "experiment" with only MtFs and not vice versa
He cross-dressed and admitted to cross-dressing then said it's negatable because he can claim he's trans. If you had someone who very blatantly tail you around to a bathroom, staring at you and then saying i'm trans whats the problem bro that doesn't change that what he did was creepy and unprovoked. He dressed like a girl and then got his friend to pass him off because thats what's certifiable, just one random person, then went ahead to stalk women to the bathroom for about 20 minutes and edited the video to elicit a negative response. How is any of that scientific or experimental? You're really hopeless for appreciating a prankster who has been and forever be continuously moronic with every video that he uploads.
Moulddid you know that implying an argument is wrong purely on the basis it contains a fallacy is fallacious in itself?
Wouldn't that make your post fallacious? Otiose at best.
edit: Also, what the fuck, am I going to be the first person AGAIN in this topic to question the authenticity and intentions/agenda of a posted video? Those JoeySalads videos don't even cherry pick; it's hard to see how these are not completely staged. Quick google search confirms those suspicions.
edit2: This just got me thinking how the newer generations turn away from TV and towards Youtube as a counter culture, seeking for authenticity, yet what's required to become popular on Youtube nowadays is this incredibly disgenuine style of faux-authenticity, ranging from "soft offenses" like the typical Youtube jump-cut monologue editing style ("It's just me being myself, talking to the camera, no filter, except for the fact that every 2 seconds I manipulate the registration of the authentic event!"), to obvious fraud like all these fake pranks and social experiments.
[quote=Mould]did you know that implying an argument is wrong purely on the basis it contains a fallacy is fallacious in itself? [/quote]
Wouldn't that make your post fallacious? Otiose at best.
edit: Also, what the fuck, am I going to be the first person AGAIN in this topic to question the authenticity and intentions/agenda of a posted video? Those JoeySalads videos don't even cherry pick; it's hard to see how these are not completely staged. Quick google search confirms those suspicions.
edit2: This just got me thinking how the newer generations turn away from TV and towards Youtube as a counter culture, seeking for authenticity, yet what's required to become popular on Youtube nowadays is this incredibly disgenuine style of faux-authenticity, ranging from "soft offenses" like the typical Youtube jump-cut monologue editing style ("[i]It's just me being myself, talking to the camera, no filter, except for the fact that every 2 seconds I manipulate the registration of the authentic event![/i]"), to obvious fraud like all these fake pranks and social experiments.
i use the female bathrooms cause they're usually cleaner otherwise it's 50/50 yolo
i use the female bathrooms cause they're usually cleaner otherwise it's 50/50 yolo
eeefahrenheit
I believe sex is a biological construct based on for example your sex chromosomes and gender to be a social construct based on traits that we deem to either be masculine or feminine.
^p much. The actual underlying causes of gender dysphoria aren't even close to being understood. We have rough overarching ideas and clues with the ways people's brains structure and hormone levels, but even those are kind of shallow. Using gender to mean biological sex is p pointless since the word sex works fine, using it to refer to which of the two most overarching social groups you fit in is a lot better.
people who say "lol just boys dressing up" or "Should society accept" them are really trivializing a very complex psychological and possibly biological issue
this post hits the nail on the head
social vs biological constructs are very real, and worlds apart
and it is important to respect those around you when handling their identity
because it is theirs and only theirs to choose
[quote=eee][quote=fahrenheit]
I believe sex is a biological construct based on for example your sex chromosomes and gender to be a social construct based on traits that we deem to either be masculine or feminine.[/quote]
^p much. The actual underlying causes of gender dysphoria aren't even close to being understood. We have rough overarching ideas and clues with the ways people's brains structure and hormone levels, but even those are kind of shallow. Using gender to mean biological sex is p pointless since the word sex works fine, using it to refer to which of the two most overarching social groups you fit in is a lot better.
people who say "lol just boys dressing up" or "Should society accept" them are really trivializing a very complex psychological and possibly biological issue[/quote]
this post hits the nail on the head
social vs biological constructs are very real, and worlds apart
and it is important to respect those around you when handling their identity
because it is theirs and only theirs to choose
skeejMoulddid you know that implying an argument is wrong purely on the basis it contains a fallacy is fallacious in itself?
Wouldn't that make your post fallacious? Otiose at best.
absolutely not, it implies that a post with a fallacy might or might not arrive at the correct conclusion, not that any post calling out a fallacy is automatically wrong.
as for whether or not it means anything, it's just worth noting when you want to argue things like that, so it does serve a purpose. It's also a fun fact :^)
[quote=skeej][quote=Mould]did you know that implying an argument is wrong purely on the basis it contains a fallacy is fallacious in itself? [/quote]
Wouldn't that make your post fallacious? Otiose at best.[/quote]
absolutely not, it implies that a post with a fallacy might or might not arrive at the correct conclusion, not that any post calling out a fallacy is automatically wrong.
as for whether or not it means anything, it's just worth noting when you want to argue things like that, so it does serve a purpose. It's also a fun fact :^)
Off topic at best then ;)
Off topic at best then ;)
I always use the women's bathroom at lans because the men's smells like someone shit in the walls after the first night.
I always use the women's bathroom at lans because the men's smells like someone shit in the walls after the first night.
eeetbh continuing to post is a terrible idea because at this point 90% of the community thinks yr an ass or a bigot so you're p fucked 3 months from now if u want to find a team or smthn
i find it hard to believe that anyone is actually gonna care enough about posts on here to deny him a trial for his team, i'm still baffled at how mad people get over posts on a video game.
eeeeither actually retarded or just searching for some reason to justify not feeling comfortable around trans people
I don't see why he would have to "justify" not feeling comfortable around trans people. I'm pretty sure that a large part of the population would feel uncomfortable around trans people since it's not exactly normal. I personally don't mind and traps are nice but no one should have to justify feeling uncomfortable around trans people. if they actually insult the trans person then that's different but I can understand why someone wouldn't feel comfortable being around a transvestite.
[quote=eee]
tbh continuing to post is a terrible idea because at this point 90% of the community thinks yr an ass or a bigot so you're p fucked 3 months from now if u want to find a team or smthn[/quote]
i find it hard to believe that anyone is actually gonna care enough about posts on here to deny him a trial for his team, i'm still baffled at how mad people get over posts on a video game.
[quote=eee]either actually retarded or just searching for some reason to justify not feeling comfortable around trans people
[/quote]
I don't see why he would have to "justify" not feeling comfortable around trans people. I'm pretty sure that a large part of the population would feel uncomfortable around trans people since it's not exactly normal. I personally don't mind and traps are nice but no one should have to justify feeling uncomfortable around trans people. if they actually insult the trans person then that's different but I can understand why someone wouldn't feel comfortable being around a transvestite.
sheepy_dogs_handeeetbh continuing to post is a terrible idea because at this point 90% of the community thinks yr an ass or a bigot so you're p fucked 3 months from now if u want to find a team or smthn
i find it hard to believe that anyone is actually gonna care enough about posts on here to deny him a trial for his team, i'm still baffled at how mad people get over posts on a video game.
eeeeither actually retarded or just searching for some reason to justify not feeling comfortable around trans people
I don't see why he would have to "justify" not feeling comfortable around trans people. I'm pretty sure that a large part of the population would feel uncomfortable around trans people since it's not exactly normal. I personally don't mind and traps are nice but no one should have to justify feeling uncomfortable around trans people. if they actually insult the trans person then that's different but I can understand why someone wouldn't feel comfortable being around a transvestite.
There is nothing separating a trans person from a normal person other then the genitals under their pants, which you can't see. This is just as bigoted as saying something like "I feel uncomfortable around black people"
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=eee]
tbh continuing to post is a terrible idea because at this point 90% of the community thinks yr an ass or a bigot so you're p fucked 3 months from now if u want to find a team or smthn[/quote]
i find it hard to believe that anyone is actually gonna care enough about posts on here to deny him a trial for his team, i'm still baffled at how mad people get over posts on a video game.
[quote=eee]either actually retarded or just searching for some reason to justify not feeling comfortable around trans people
[/quote]
I don't see why he would have to "justify" not feeling comfortable around trans people. I'm pretty sure that a large part of the population would feel uncomfortable around trans people since it's not exactly normal. I personally don't mind and traps are nice but no one should have to justify feeling uncomfortable around trans people. if they actually insult the trans person then that's different but I can understand why someone wouldn't feel comfortable being around a transvestite.[/quote]
There is nothing separating a trans person from a normal person other then the genitals under their pants, which you can't see. This is just as bigoted as saying something like "I feel uncomfortable around black people"
sheepy_dogs_hand
i find it hard to believe that anyone is actually gonna care enough about posts on here to deny him a trial for his team, i'm still baffled at how mad people get over posts on a video game.
Ps: Most mature people consider apathy to be a negative thing, not a positive thing
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
i find it hard to believe that anyone is actually gonna care enough about posts on here to deny him a trial for his team, i'm still baffled at how mad people get over posts on a video game.
[/quote]
Ps: Most mature people consider apathy to be a negative thing, not a positive thing
really dollar you should be arguing for a law banning trans people from fucking you in tftv threads cause that's what's happening right now
really dollar you should be arguing for a law banning trans people from fucking you in tftv threads cause that's what's happening right now
dollarlayernitei like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video
Took me 60 seconds to find that video. I typed "transgender bathroom" and it was like the second result. Quite amazing that it just came out like 2 days ago.
I actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to. But, believe what you want, and let the insults continue. Whatever strokes your ego. :)
On a side note, this JoeySalads guy has some pretty interesting videos check em out never heard of him until a few minutes ago. This one was interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0
"trump supporters never said anything to me" chances are he was in a college town (really looked that way) which had mostly democrats but i guess thats just my liberal logic (using my brain)
[quote=dollarlayer][quote=nite]i like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video[/quote]
Took me 60 seconds to find that video. I typed "transgender bathroom" and it was like the second result. Quite amazing that it just came out like 2 days ago.
I actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to. But, believe what you want, and let the insults continue. Whatever strokes your ego. :)
On a side note, this JoeySalads guy has some pretty interesting videos check em out never heard of him until a few minutes ago. This one was interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0[/quote]
"trump supporters never said anything to me" chances are he was in a college town (really looked that way) which had mostly democrats but i guess thats just my liberal logic (using my brain)
This thread derailed.
This thread is now about who will survive rapture:
Miracle Whip vs. Helmann's Mayonnaise
ROUND ONE!
This thread derailed.
This thread is now about who will survive rapture:
Miracle Whip vs. Helmann's Mayonnaise
ROUND ONE!
remedydollarlayernitei like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video
Took me 60 seconds to find that video. I typed "transgender bathroom" and it was like the second result. Quite amazing that it just came out like 2 days ago.
I actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to. But, believe what you want, and let the insults continue. Whatever strokes your ego. :)
On a side note, this JoeySalads guy has some pretty interesting videos check em out never heard of him until a few minutes ago. This one was interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0
"trump supporters never said anything to me" chances are he was in a college town (really looked that way) which had mostly democrats but i guess thats just my liberal logic (using my brain)
also every one of his videos are fake as fuck could also have something to do with it
[quote=remedy][quote=dollarlayer][quote=nite]i like that dollarlayer has spent the last hour and a half looking for something to support his viewpoint and the best thing he could find was a youtube prank video[/quote]
Took me 60 seconds to find that video. I typed "transgender bathroom" and it was like the second result. Quite amazing that it just came out like 2 days ago.
I actually took a bit of a break from the thread, as I run an international business and had some emails and customers to talk to. But, believe what you want, and let the insults continue. Whatever strokes your ego. :)
On a side note, this JoeySalads guy has some pretty interesting videos check em out never heard of him until a few minutes ago. This one was interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0[/quote]
"trump supporters never said anything to me" chances are he was in a college town (really looked that way) which had mostly democrats but i guess thats just my liberal logic (using my brain)[/quote]
also every one of his videos are fake as fuck could also have something to do with it
yall need to chill
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Abandon this thread, all ye who enter here!
Abandon this thread, all ye who enter here!