This works really well, and is quite easy to set up and use. I'll definitely use this as at least a backup to my mumble server.

This is the best thing that has happend in my life, pls use

https://discord.gg/0Smo0KLDcoSfdXFo

I made a scrim channel on the TF.TV Discord channel noticing that justplay.tf/irc seems to be dead

Arguably more reliable than a private user who could crash/lose internet any time.

How does that make any difference whatsoever? Why care?

Why should it? Mumble's codec is good. Mentioning things that are neither better nor worse as negatives makes no sense.

Only valid complaint, but only if you actually care about your browsing privacy while playing tf2, in which case, why? There are also simple tools to prevent it from getting anything.

at first i thought this was a thread about zenyatta

No one hosts their mumble server on a private computer in their home. Most are hosted by game server companies or on a VPS which I am willing to bet have at least the same, if not greater, uptime than something like discord. They are also proven, whereas this is a new product that could just shut down at any time, as many similar projects do.

Well, there are moral/ethical grounds to prefer open source projects, but there are also technical considerations to be had.
The open source nature of mumble has led to increased ability for customizing installs and deployments, and the exposure of the complete mumble api and backend through murmur ice RPC. You can do some seriously cool stuff with that, stuff that may not be available for discord ever.

In the event that discord has a market failure or heads in an entirely terrible direction, we have no recourse except to switch back to mumble. If the mumble developers go off the deep end, it is literally a branch away from being the project of more sane individuals.

The community can add features/request features and they are easier to implement. I am not sure if TF2 has ever done this for mumble, but I have submitted many bug reports, some of which ended up getting fixed. Discord, as a proprietary software, is locked into their own development cycle where there is a payoff between adding new features that may be incomplete or buggy to entice users vs stabilizing their platform and focusing on the essence of what people use it for.

This reeks of the "I have nothing to hide" fallacy of data security. Remember that, if you are not buying the product, you are the product. Free discord users likely factor into their profit model somehow, and that is entirely up to them how they manage that. You are technically correct in the statement that, probably almost all of us have nothing worth hiding from discord and that they are unlikely to use the data in truly shitty ways (companies just arent getting away with that shit anymore), but it would still be a direct downgrade to mumble, which collects no data (except for setup details to help developers provide sane defaults and increase supported systems).

On a technical note, discord isnt working for my microphone on Linux, probably because its USB. This isn't a discord bug, but one with chrome I believe (as google hangouts do the same thing), but mumble literally had 0 problems at all.

I use it everyday, it's really just as good as the other services but free

They have a desktop app

good, i like mumble better but maybe im just more used to the interface

discord is like what raidcall wanted to be, you can also connect through the web in like 3 seconds

Not for linux they dont.

Discord seems like its better than skype in almost every way. Apparently the CPU usage is a lot lower than skype, better ping, can change the volume of individual people, etc.

Thanks for posting this, going to try this out soon as I can. I use skype a lot for playing cs/league/tf2 with friends and shit so this should be really nice to tryout. Not to mention my computer can barely handle having skype in the background so hopefully this will help a lot.

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How do they manage to host all of the servers for free? What are they making money off of?

most startups work like that nowadays, they tend to try to get as many ppl into their service as possible before they set up income sources (prolly through ads), because a lot of times that potential income source is a nuisance to users and should you only spring it up once you have a lot of people, you're likely for at least a good chunk of them to begrudgingly stick around

I've played a bunch of CS while using it instead of mumble and it was perfectly fine zero latency issues at all. I never use an overlay either so that wasn't an issue for me.

so far for me, its been slightly faster then mumble. I prefer using this over mumble now for pretty much everything

They milk investment capital while driving users to become used to their product and incorporate it in their routines, so that when they start monetizing (via ads or such), the "cost" of leaving will be higher than the "cost" of living with the ads (or whatever it is they'll use).

The question is whether their monetization will actually work when they implement it (no).

ive been using it with my "outside of tf2" friends since it came out for games like rocket league, csgo, ark and it's a very polished app

in the 2 or 3 months there have been maybe 2 times where the server was having issues and everyone sounded robotic. i ended up switching from a west server to an east server which fixed the robot voices.

i just hope it doesnt get ruined with whatever revenue generating decision they end up on

So, does overlay works in tf2 for any of you people using it?

yes