but did you have to make this thread

please dont push matchmaking with this as its final form :( did they even change anything but maps over the betas

Kinda meant it as a discussion of the short term future, mods or whoever can get rid of it if you guys feel it's necessary

Yeah, they really need to remove some of them...

I'm eager to see what kind of balance changes they will make.

Actually I just want to see scout nerfed

pls valve :3

Please get rid of gorge.

oh boy oh boy

end of the beta? please correct me if i'm wrong since i haven't played it lately but nothing has really changed though.
abandoning is still a major issue that ruins matches
the rotation is questionable to say the least
the round/time limit isn't long enough (this is in my opinion though)
no serverside anticheat measures (untrusted/fakeangle bans, OW) like in csgo

I think we should wait until the "neato update" is released, alongside all the balance changes. Then we could definitely decide whats still wrong and what isn't. Going out of beta doesnt mean it wont be updated in the future.

really hoping the fixed graphics settings are opened up
some of the fixed settings are just pointless, it's not as if you gain some advantage over other players by using a config (other than fps, which is really valve's problem not the players' to fix)
i know they want tf2 to look more familiar to new viewers on streams, but is mat_phong 0 to mat_phong 1 gonna make that much difference?

This is what the competitive beta steam page would look like

isnt it still first to 2

The beta was more destined to assess technical issues than anything else, so they probably have been working on the summer update independently of it. I imagine Valve will want to make the release of competitive into something big.

Whether it will be next week or not, who knows?

it is

every single time there's a stress test, there's always that one dude who doesn't realize what a stress test is

the spawn system its a joke

1. They've been working on a sub feature. Abandons will also be less of an issue as the game gets released as people who don't leave will have a much higher rank. That's not a perfect system as it makes the lower ranks awful for noobies but the mid level players won't be suffering from chronic leavers like they do now, at least after a week or two.

2. Kinda? Its basically ESEA + gorge + the koth egypt map right? Not amazing but there's been worse maps

3.

To simplify, the short game times make running an MM system much more efficient and easy, as you can quickly run player permutations to determine rank as well as prevent players from being "locked" out of the MM pool since they're stuck on round 3/5. This means a lot more of the players will be finishing games and entering the queue at any given time, making it easier to find matches even if we don't have all the players of CSGO. This is a really good middle ground and keeps MM from being drawn out or too serious.

4. idk what to tell you. valve's been putting in good work with AC lately, if it ain't enough it ain't enough but it seems like they're trying

Just means they're gonna be done with giving the players stress tests and focusing on user input. Doesn't mean that it's being updated and completely finished. Wait for the actual update for the final version of MM.

the biggest factor driving people away wil probably be the 10 fps config

not for pubbies, they already have terrible FPS

No they have good fps because they can afford good computers with all that trading money

x

Muselk was right

over 9000

hope they give optimization and game performance some attention
tired of getting <100 FPS in MM with hardware i could only dream of when i first got this game.

average pub player doesn't play the game with a config, so the locked variables that valve has won't affect their FPS

it literally only hurts "serious" pub players and the comp community

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list of techical/gameplay (non-player based) issues i still have with it:

• overly strict variable locking (even ignoring the forced graphics), zoom sens,fps_max, net_graph etc are all forced for no reason even when they arent in csgo
  
• the stats system is dumb af and should work on kills or damage per minute instead of per game.
  
• the spawn system is dumb af, why have a 10 second countdown THEN the doors unlock 5 seconds later. just makes it harder for meds to buff people if they even wanna. random spawns are way more influential in csgo and they're still in the game.
  
• why the fuck are you stuck in spawn all warmup waiting for some guy's toaster to dredge up a copy of the map from some musty corner of his 20GB harddrive
  
• random bugs that still exist: meds can heal in the 10sec countdown on all rounds except the first, round score is broken for the first round if you play consecutive games, scoreboard hides countdown overlay

this is supposed to remove the RNG from spawning closer or further from the door at the start of the round, but i find it so awkward