not all asians are chinese retard
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eeewhat does that says about how much they hate Trump since Asians are swinging more and more to the Democrats?
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[quote=eee]what does that says about how much they hate Trump since Asians are swinging more and more to the Democrats?[/quote]
[quote=fade-][b]chinese people [/b][u][/u][/quote]
[quote=fade-][b]chinese people [/b][u][/u][/quote]
from a quick google search u can find that it was supposed to be a bombing on a nearby yugoslavian building or something
from a quick google search u can find that it was supposed to be a bombing on a nearby yugoslavian building or something
oh great i'll tell those dead chinese people it was an accident they'll be alive again asap
oh great i'll tell those dead chinese people it was an accident they'll be alive again asap
fade-oh great i'll tell those dead chinese people it was an accident they'll be alive again asap
to be fair a certain former delegate of the national people's congress of the people's republic of china forgave her by donating to the clinton foundation :)
[quote=fade-]oh great i'll tell those dead chinese people it was an accident they'll be alive again asap[/quote]
to be fair a certain former delegate of the national people's congress [s]of the people's republic of china[/s] forgave her by donating to the clinton foundation :)
to be fair a certain former delegate of the national people's congress [s]of the people's republic of china[/s] forgave her by donating to the clinton foundation :)
you seemed to be claiming that bill clinton authorized the deaths of those people...?
you seemed to be claiming that bill clinton authorized the deaths of those people...?
fade-not all asians are chinese retard
there's been ~12,000,000 Asian immigrants to the US since 1960 and 17% were Chinese.
Asians as a whole prefer Democrats 66 to 27%
Assuming populations remain evenly distributed between the two figures: for Chinese people to be a sizable block for Republicans to mobilize they would have to be some arbitrary figure around 70% in favor of Republicans, which would put them about as reliably Red as most other core voting groups for either party. That'd also mean they'd be roughly half of all the Asian republican voters.
You can use this to see where populations of various immigrants have settled. Chinese immigrants make up most (~60%) of the Asian immigrant population in LA county which was 27-70 in favor of Obama in '12. 52% of the voting population is white in LA county. Assuming that there was a relatively even split among whites, which would've been pretty odd but it's CA so w/e, ~26% of the vote for the GOP was from white people. That means 1% of the Republican vote in the city with the most 1st Gen Chinese immigrants voted for the guy who had someone they apparently hate as his Secretary of State. Assuming that literally the entirety of that vote came from Chinese people, you're still only getting about 1:5 FoBs voting against Clinton
so I think you're wrong: Chinese people are not particularly averse to Clinton
[quote=fade-]not all asians are chinese retard[/quote]
[url=http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/asian-immigrants-united-states]there's been ~12,000,000 Asian immigrants to the US since 1960 and 17% were Chinese. [/url]
[url=http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/the-parties-on-the-eve-of-the-2016-election-two-coalitions-moving-further-apart/]Asians as a whole prefer Democrats 66 to 27%[/url]
Assuming populations remain evenly distributed between the two figures: for Chinese people to be a sizable block for Republicans to mobilize they would have to be some arbitrary figure around 70% in favor of Republicans, which would put them about as reliably Red as most other core voting groups for either party. That'd also mean they'd be roughly half of all the Asian republican voters.
You can use [url=http://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-immigrant-population-state-and-county]this[/url] to see where populations of various immigrants have settled. Chinese immigrants make up most (~60%) of the Asian immigrant population in LA county which was 27-70 in favor of Obama in '12. 52% of the voting population is white in LA county. Assuming that there was a relatively even split among whites, which would've been pretty odd but it's CA so w/e, ~26% of the vote for the GOP was from white people. That means 1% of the Republican vote in the city with the most 1st Gen Chinese immigrants voted for the guy who had someone they apparently hate as his Secretary of State. Assuming that literally the entirety of that vote came from Chinese people, you're still only getting about 1:5 FoBs voting against Clinton
so I think you're wrong: Chinese people are not particularly averse to Clinton
[url=http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/asian-immigrants-united-states]there's been ~12,000,000 Asian immigrants to the US since 1960 and 17% were Chinese. [/url]
[url=http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/the-parties-on-the-eve-of-the-2016-election-two-coalitions-moving-further-apart/]Asians as a whole prefer Democrats 66 to 27%[/url]
Assuming populations remain evenly distributed between the two figures: for Chinese people to be a sizable block for Republicans to mobilize they would have to be some arbitrary figure around 70% in favor of Republicans, which would put them about as reliably Red as most other core voting groups for either party. That'd also mean they'd be roughly half of all the Asian republican voters.
You can use [url=http://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-immigrant-population-state-and-county]this[/url] to see where populations of various immigrants have settled. Chinese immigrants make up most (~60%) of the Asian immigrant population in LA county which was 27-70 in favor of Obama in '12. 52% of the voting population is white in LA county. Assuming that there was a relatively even split among whites, which would've been pretty odd but it's CA so w/e, ~26% of the vote for the GOP was from white people. That means 1% of the Republican vote in the city with the most 1st Gen Chinese immigrants voted for the guy who had someone they apparently hate as his Secretary of State. Assuming that literally the entirety of that vote came from Chinese people, you're still only getting about 1:5 FoBs voting against Clinton
so I think you're wrong: Chinese people are not particularly averse to Clinton
Cleepopledollarlayer
Do you not realize that Obama inherited an economy in recession from Bush? lmao trying to defend Trump's economic policies is laughable, anyone with an understanding of macroeconomics will that you that his plan will further fuck the US economy
1) He wants to cut taxes on the rich (and cut the number of tax brackets from 7 to 4) which means that even though everyone gets tax reductions, the rich in particular are taxed even less which means that Trump is essentially widening the already large gap between the rich (himself) and everyone else. He also wants to reduce corporate tax to 15% (lol) which further reduces revenue. Such steep tax reductions mean that in the first decade of his plan the US will lose 9.5 TRILLION dollars in revenue and another 15 million and additional $15.0 trillion over the subsequent 10 years. And that's before accounting for added interest costs or considering macroeconomic feedback effects.
2)He wants to build a fucking wall. First of all, over 40% of illegal immigrants come by plane and then overstay their visa, a wall won't help with that. Secondly, the wall would theoretically cost around 25 billion dollars to build, not counting maintenance or staffing costs. The Mexican government has already said they won't pay for the wall, so where is he going to fund such an expensive (and braindead) project from if he's cutting the revenue by trillions of dollars via his tax plan?
3) He wants to impose a 35% and 45% percent import tax on Mexico and China lol???? While that, in theory, could make American consumers buy American goods, it also means that Mexico and China would likely impose import taxes on incoming AMERICAN goods which not only would sour international relations but also destroy American trade considering that Mexico and China are 2 of America's largest trading partners (after Canada) and US exports to the two comes around 350 billion dollars.
4) He wants to increase military spending. How is he going to do this with such expansive revenue cuts? He hasn't explained how he will cut public spending, and such a reduction in revenue would require cuts in public spending never before seen in American history.
5) He says he wants to reduce the deficit. How is he gonna do that when he wants to increase government spending through the wall and military funding without any increase in US revenue? He's going to widen the deficit rofl.
But Hilary is being investigated by the FBI so lets ignore her objectively better policies :OO
I have no problem with Trump supporters lol just don't try to justify a terrible economic plan that objectively goes macroeconomic principles and would hurt everyone besides the rich.
Your knowledge of what lead to the 2008 recession is laughable. It’s all Bush’s fault! Rofl. Please educate yourself.
Under the Clinton administration, they ordered lenders like Fannie and Freddie to expand loans to risky borrowers from 30% to 50% in order to expand home ownership. What happened then was people that shouldn’t have been given loans were given loans. This lead to more demand for houses than there was supply. This doubled and tripled homes prices in a matter of years in some cases. So people bought overpriced homes they couldn’t afford. Then when SHTF and companies started failing borrowers saw their assets dwindle, and the price of their home fall so sharply that they owed more than the home was worth, so many walked away. The policies that lead to the crash are far more than Bush or Clinton did it, but the start of the home crisis is primarily the result of policies dating back from the Bill Clinton administration. Also it extends past either administration, the Federal reserve played a large part in keeping interest rates low which created the housing bubble as well as bubbles in other commodities.
1) You do not seem to understand the effects that high taxation has on the economy. Do I 100% agree with cutting taxes for the rich? No. I’d be in favor of no income tax and a flat sales tax. The more you consume the more tax you pay. The ultimate reality is companies are leaving the country because they are being taxed too much and they feel they can make more money overseas. Why would increasing taxes help? Cutting taxes for companies and rich that employ people, introducing an exit tax, and introducing higher import taxes is a pretty damn good deterrent to keep companies from leaving the country.
2) He wants to build a wall. He sure does. Every country in the world has a wall. Maybe not across their entire border, but think of it this way. You go to the airport, pass through immigration and there is a wall. One side you are on international grounds, and the other side (past the immigration officers) you are in another country. It doesn’t matter if 40% of illegal immigrants are visa overstays, a physical wall on our southern border will factually cut down on illegal immigrants. There are other very easy ways to significantly cut down on visa overstays. For example requiring an entry deposit that is given back to you when you exit the country. If you can’t afford that deposit, you then borrow from friends/family or some other insurance company that trusts you and believes you will not overstay puts up the money in exchange for a small fee. When someone visa overstays they lose a few thousand dollars and some of that money goes towards tracking them down. The Mexican government doesn’t have to agree to pay for the wall. Do you literally think Trump is just going to say, hey Mexico here is a bill for 15 billion, please pay. No that is not how it works. They can pay for it in an indirect manner regardless of their consent. Two examples: increased tariffs pay for it. Or a border entry fee for everyone crossing the border from Mexico into the US. Millions cross legally every year. $10/20 fee per person even could add up very fast and pay for the wall.
3) 35% import tax would be for companies LEAVING the US and manufacturing overseas, not for existing companies that import into the US. Obama actually really hurt the US recently (although he benefited my business by it). He increased tax free imports from $200 to $800. So you can now import up to $800 worth of crap from China and pay $0 in import fees. This increases consumption from overseas and decreases manufacturing from the US. Another example of government failure that hurts our manufacturing and exporting. I've been running an online business for 6 years. In that time I've seen USPS First Class International rates increase from $2.50 for the first ounce, to $12.50+. China/Taiwan/Hong Kong etc, can literally send a 1oz item to the US for 40 cents, and it costs us $12.50+? How is that allowing us to compete on the global marketplace?
4) He wants to increase military spending only in some circumstances. But he also wants the countries we protect to PAY up.
5) If American manufacturing increases significantly, tax revenue increases and that money can be used to pay off things like the national debt. Thinking the wall is a significant expense though is laughable. 10-15 billion is like pocket change for our government. Just a reminder, the DOD is unable to account for 6.5 trillion dollars. You can’t run a country like that.
We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed. We don't need a crook that is under FBI investigation and has been proven beyond doubt to have engaged in many many illegal activities over the years (pay to play, illegal email server, lying under oath to congress, lying to the FBI, deleting emails while under a subpoena from the United States congress etc.) And that is why I am voting for Donald Trump. Not because he's perfect, but because I agree with most of his policies and I believe crooked Hillary needs to be locked up.
[quote=Cleepople][quote=dollarlayer][/quote]
Do you not realize that Obama inherited an economy in recession from Bush? lmao trying to defend Trump's economic policies is laughable, anyone with an understanding of macroeconomics will that you that his plan will further fuck the US economy
1) He wants to cut taxes on the rich (and cut the number of tax brackets from 7 to 4) which means that even though everyone gets tax reductions, the rich in particular are taxed even less which means that Trump is essentially widening the already large gap between the rich (himself) and everyone else. He also wants to reduce corporate tax to 15% (lol) which further reduces revenue. Such steep tax reductions mean that in the first decade of his plan the US will lose 9.5 TRILLION dollars in revenue and another 15 million and additional $15.0 trillion over the subsequent 10 years. And that's before accounting for added interest costs or considering macroeconomic feedback effects.
2)He wants to build a fucking wall. First of all, over 40% of illegal immigrants come by plane and then overstay their visa, a wall won't help with that. Secondly, the wall would theoretically cost around 25 billion dollars to build, not counting maintenance or staffing costs. The Mexican government has already said they won't pay for the wall, so where is he going to fund such an expensive (and braindead) project from if he's cutting the revenue by trillions of dollars via his tax plan?
3) He wants to impose a 35% and 45% percent import tax on Mexico and China lol???? While that, in theory, could make American consumers buy American goods, it also means that Mexico and China would likely impose import taxes on incoming AMERICAN goods which not only would sour international relations but also destroy American trade considering that Mexico and China are 2 of America's largest trading partners (after Canada) and US exports to the two comes around 350 billion dollars.
4) He wants to increase military spending. How is he going to do this with such expansive revenue cuts? He hasn't explained how he will cut public spending, and such a reduction in revenue would require cuts in public spending never before seen in American history.
5) He says he wants to reduce the deficit. How is he gonna do that when he wants to increase government spending through the wall and military funding without any increase in US revenue? He's going to widen the deficit rofl.
But Hilary is being investigated by the FBI so lets ignore her objectively better policies :OO
I have no problem with Trump supporters lol just don't try to justify a terrible economic plan that objectively goes macroeconomic principles and would hurt everyone besides the rich.[/quote]
Your knowledge of what lead to the 2008 recession is laughable. It’s all Bush’s fault! Rofl. Please educate yourself.
Under the Clinton administration, they ordered lenders like Fannie and Freddie to expand loans to risky borrowers from 30% to 50% in order to expand home ownership. What happened then was people that shouldn’t have been given loans were given loans. This lead to more demand for houses than there was supply. This doubled and tripled homes prices in a matter of years in some cases. So people bought overpriced homes they couldn’t afford. Then when SHTF and companies started failing borrowers saw their assets dwindle, and the price of their home fall so sharply that they owed more than the home was worth, so many walked away. The policies that lead to the crash are far more than Bush or Clinton did it, but the start of the home crisis is primarily the result of policies dating back from the Bill Clinton administration. Also it extends past either administration, the Federal reserve played a large part in keeping interest rates low which created the housing bubble as well as bubbles in other commodities.
1) You do not seem to understand the effects that high taxation has on the economy. Do I 100% agree with cutting taxes for the rich? No. I’d be in favor of no income tax and a flat sales tax. The more you consume the more tax you pay. The ultimate reality is companies are leaving the country because they are being taxed too much and they feel they can make more money overseas. Why would increasing taxes help? Cutting taxes for companies and rich that employ people, introducing an exit tax, and introducing higher import taxes is a pretty damn good deterrent to keep companies from leaving the country.
2) He wants to build a wall. He sure does. Every country in the world has a wall. Maybe not across their entire border, but think of it this way. You go to the airport, pass through immigration and there is a wall. One side you are on international grounds, and the other side (past the immigration officers) you are in another country. It doesn’t matter if 40% of illegal immigrants are visa overstays, a physical wall on our southern border will factually cut down on illegal immigrants. There are other very easy ways to significantly cut down on visa overstays. For example requiring an entry deposit that is given back to you when you exit the country. If you can’t afford that deposit, you then borrow from friends/family or some other insurance company that trusts you and believes you will not overstay puts up the money in exchange for a small fee. When someone visa overstays they lose a few thousand dollars and some of that money goes towards tracking them down. The Mexican government doesn’t have to agree to pay for the wall. Do you literally think Trump is just going to say, hey Mexico here is a bill for 15 billion, please pay. No that is not how it works. They can pay for it in an indirect manner regardless of their consent. Two examples: increased tariffs pay for it. Or a border entry fee for everyone crossing the border from Mexico into the US. Millions cross legally every year. $10/20 fee per person even could add up very fast and pay for the wall.
3) 35% import tax would be for companies LEAVING the US and manufacturing overseas, not for existing companies that import into the US. Obama actually really hurt the US recently (although he benefited my business by it). He increased tax free imports from $200 to $800. So you can now import up to $800 worth of crap from China and pay $0 in import fees. This increases consumption from overseas and decreases manufacturing from the US. Another example of government failure that hurts our manufacturing and exporting. I've been running an online business for 6 years. In that time I've seen USPS First Class International rates increase from $2.50 for the first ounce, to $12.50+. China/Taiwan/Hong Kong etc, can literally send a 1oz item to the US for 40 cents, and it costs us $12.50+? How is that allowing us to compete on the global marketplace?
4) He wants to increase military spending only in some circumstances. But he also wants the countries we protect to PAY up.
5) If American manufacturing increases significantly, tax revenue increases and that money can be used to pay off things like the national debt. Thinking the wall is a significant expense though is laughable. 10-15 billion is like pocket change for our government. Just a reminder, the DOD is unable to account for 6.5 trillion dollars. You can’t run a country like that.
We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed. We don't need a crook that is under FBI investigation and has been proven beyond doubt to have engaged in many many illegal activities over the years (pay to play, illegal email server, lying under oath to congress, lying to the FBI, deleting emails while under a subpoena from the United States congress etc.) And that is why I am voting for Donald Trump. Not because he's perfect, but because I agree with most of his policies and I believe crooked Hillary needs to be locked up.
Do you not realize that Obama inherited an economy in recession from Bush? lmao trying to defend Trump's economic policies is laughable, anyone with an understanding of macroeconomics will that you that his plan will further fuck the US economy
1) He wants to cut taxes on the rich (and cut the number of tax brackets from 7 to 4) which means that even though everyone gets tax reductions, the rich in particular are taxed even less which means that Trump is essentially widening the already large gap between the rich (himself) and everyone else. He also wants to reduce corporate tax to 15% (lol) which further reduces revenue. Such steep tax reductions mean that in the first decade of his plan the US will lose 9.5 TRILLION dollars in revenue and another 15 million and additional $15.0 trillion over the subsequent 10 years. And that's before accounting for added interest costs or considering macroeconomic feedback effects.
2)He wants to build a fucking wall. First of all, over 40% of illegal immigrants come by plane and then overstay their visa, a wall won't help with that. Secondly, the wall would theoretically cost around 25 billion dollars to build, not counting maintenance or staffing costs. The Mexican government has already said they won't pay for the wall, so where is he going to fund such an expensive (and braindead) project from if he's cutting the revenue by trillions of dollars via his tax plan?
3) He wants to impose a 35% and 45% percent import tax on Mexico and China lol???? While that, in theory, could make American consumers buy American goods, it also means that Mexico and China would likely impose import taxes on incoming AMERICAN goods which not only would sour international relations but also destroy American trade considering that Mexico and China are 2 of America's largest trading partners (after Canada) and US exports to the two comes around 350 billion dollars.
4) He wants to increase military spending. How is he going to do this with such expansive revenue cuts? He hasn't explained how he will cut public spending, and such a reduction in revenue would require cuts in public spending never before seen in American history.
5) He says he wants to reduce the deficit. How is he gonna do that when he wants to increase government spending through the wall and military funding without any increase in US revenue? He's going to widen the deficit rofl.
But Hilary is being investigated by the FBI so lets ignore her objectively better policies :OO
I have no problem with Trump supporters lol just don't try to justify a terrible economic plan that objectively goes macroeconomic principles and would hurt everyone besides the rich.[/quote]
Your knowledge of what lead to the 2008 recession is laughable. It’s all Bush’s fault! Rofl. Please educate yourself.
Under the Clinton administration, they ordered lenders like Fannie and Freddie to expand loans to risky borrowers from 30% to 50% in order to expand home ownership. What happened then was people that shouldn’t have been given loans were given loans. This lead to more demand for houses than there was supply. This doubled and tripled homes prices in a matter of years in some cases. So people bought overpriced homes they couldn’t afford. Then when SHTF and companies started failing borrowers saw their assets dwindle, and the price of their home fall so sharply that they owed more than the home was worth, so many walked away. The policies that lead to the crash are far more than Bush or Clinton did it, but the start of the home crisis is primarily the result of policies dating back from the Bill Clinton administration. Also it extends past either administration, the Federal reserve played a large part in keeping interest rates low which created the housing bubble as well as bubbles in other commodities.
1) You do not seem to understand the effects that high taxation has on the economy. Do I 100% agree with cutting taxes for the rich? No. I’d be in favor of no income tax and a flat sales tax. The more you consume the more tax you pay. The ultimate reality is companies are leaving the country because they are being taxed too much and they feel they can make more money overseas. Why would increasing taxes help? Cutting taxes for companies and rich that employ people, introducing an exit tax, and introducing higher import taxes is a pretty damn good deterrent to keep companies from leaving the country.
2) He wants to build a wall. He sure does. Every country in the world has a wall. Maybe not across their entire border, but think of it this way. You go to the airport, pass through immigration and there is a wall. One side you are on international grounds, and the other side (past the immigration officers) you are in another country. It doesn’t matter if 40% of illegal immigrants are visa overstays, a physical wall on our southern border will factually cut down on illegal immigrants. There are other very easy ways to significantly cut down on visa overstays. For example requiring an entry deposit that is given back to you when you exit the country. If you can’t afford that deposit, you then borrow from friends/family or some other insurance company that trusts you and believes you will not overstay puts up the money in exchange for a small fee. When someone visa overstays they lose a few thousand dollars and some of that money goes towards tracking them down. The Mexican government doesn’t have to agree to pay for the wall. Do you literally think Trump is just going to say, hey Mexico here is a bill for 15 billion, please pay. No that is not how it works. They can pay for it in an indirect manner regardless of their consent. Two examples: increased tariffs pay for it. Or a border entry fee for everyone crossing the border from Mexico into the US. Millions cross legally every year. $10/20 fee per person even could add up very fast and pay for the wall.
3) 35% import tax would be for companies LEAVING the US and manufacturing overseas, not for existing companies that import into the US. Obama actually really hurt the US recently (although he benefited my business by it). He increased tax free imports from $200 to $800. So you can now import up to $800 worth of crap from China and pay $0 in import fees. This increases consumption from overseas and decreases manufacturing from the US. Another example of government failure that hurts our manufacturing and exporting. I've been running an online business for 6 years. In that time I've seen USPS First Class International rates increase from $2.50 for the first ounce, to $12.50+. China/Taiwan/Hong Kong etc, can literally send a 1oz item to the US for 40 cents, and it costs us $12.50+? How is that allowing us to compete on the global marketplace?
4) He wants to increase military spending only in some circumstances. But he also wants the countries we protect to PAY up.
5) If American manufacturing increases significantly, tax revenue increases and that money can be used to pay off things like the national debt. Thinking the wall is a significant expense though is laughable. 10-15 billion is like pocket change for our government. Just a reminder, the DOD is unable to account for 6.5 trillion dollars. You can’t run a country like that.
We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed. We don't need a crook that is under FBI investigation and has been proven beyond doubt to have engaged in many many illegal activities over the years (pay to play, illegal email server, lying under oath to congress, lying to the FBI, deleting emails while under a subpoena from the United States congress etc.) And that is why I am voting for Donald Trump. Not because he's perfect, but because I agree with most of his policies and I believe crooked Hillary needs to be locked up.
> The ultimate reality is companies are leaving the country because they are being taxed too much and they feel they can make more money overseas
this is just so objectively wrong its hard to really care about the rest of your shitpost
they're leaving the country because you can pay one fifth the labor costs, not because of taxes. The US has a very low effective tax rate for businesses already, there's no where to go where it'll be better
>We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed
Trump isn't a particularly good businessman though? He's not bad but he's far from the best and not particularly nuanced with what he's shown
> The ultimate reality is companies are leaving the country because they are being taxed too much and they feel they can make more money overseas
this is just so objectively wrong its hard to really care about the rest of your shitpost
they're leaving the country because you can pay one fifth the labor costs, not because of taxes. The US has a very low effective tax rate for businesses already, there's no where to go where it'll be better
>We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed
Trump isn't a particularly good businessman though? He's not bad but he's far from the best and not particularly nuanced with what he's shown
this is just so objectively wrong its hard to really care about the rest of your shitpost
they're leaving the country because you can pay one fifth the labor costs, not because of taxes. The US has a very low effective tax rate for businesses already, there's no where to go where it'll be better
>We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed
Trump isn't a particularly good businessman though? He's not bad but he's far from the best and not particularly nuanced with what he's shown
eee> The ultimate reality is companies are leaving the country because they are being taxed too much and they feel they can make more money overseas
LOL. It's like you don't understand what "they feel like they can make more money overseas" means. Obviously taxes are not the only reason for why companies move overseas. The fact remains though that the United States has the 3rd highest corporate tax rate among 188 nations. The average US rate is 38.9%. Worldwide average is 22%. The tax rate is a significant factor. Which is one reason why so many companies keep trilions of dollars overseas.
Here, I'll go into more detail and elaborate as to what I meant by they can make more money overseas. Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
If you couple high corporate taxes, high labor with low overseas labor and low import tax and lower overseas corporate tax, what sense does it make to operate a business in the US? Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
eee>We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed
Trump isn't a particularly good businessman though? He's not bad but he's far from the best and not particularly nuanced with what he's shown
Given that he is at the top .0001% I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself. Has he made mistakes? Yes. Has he taken risks? Yes. Has he taken advantage of legal bankruptcy laws? Yes, several times.
Didn't he just open a hotel right next to the white house ahead of schedule and under budget? Not sure how familiar you are with real estate development but that kind of thing rarely happens. I'd say he's pretty good at business.
[quote=eee]> The ultimate reality is companies are leaving the country because they are being taxed too much and they feel they can make more money overseas[/quote]
LOL. It's like you don't understand what "they feel like they can make more money overseas" means. Obviously taxes are not the only reason for why companies move overseas. The fact remains though that the United States has the 3rd highest corporate tax rate among 188 nations. The average US rate is 38.9%. Worldwide average is 22%. The tax rate is a significant factor. Which is one reason why so many companies keep trilions of dollars overseas.
Here, I'll go into more detail and elaborate as to what I meant by they can make more money overseas. Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
If you couple high corporate taxes, high labor with low overseas labor and low import tax and lower overseas corporate tax, what sense does it make to operate a business in the US? Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
[quote=eee]>We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed
Trump isn't a particularly good businessman though? He's not bad but he's far from the best and not particularly nuanced with what he's shown[/quote]
Given that he is at the top .0001% I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself. Has he made mistakes? Yes. Has he taken risks? Yes. Has he taken advantage of legal bankruptcy laws? Yes, several times.
Didn't he just open a hotel right next to the white house ahead of schedule and under budget? Not sure how familiar you are with real estate development but that kind of thing rarely happens. I'd say he's pretty good at business.
LOL. It's like you don't understand what "they feel like they can make more money overseas" means. Obviously taxes are not the only reason for why companies move overseas. The fact remains though that the United States has the 3rd highest corporate tax rate among 188 nations. The average US rate is 38.9%. Worldwide average is 22%. The tax rate is a significant factor. Which is one reason why so many companies keep trilions of dollars overseas.
Here, I'll go into more detail and elaborate as to what I meant by they can make more money overseas. Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
If you couple high corporate taxes, high labor with low overseas labor and low import tax and lower overseas corporate tax, what sense does it make to operate a business in the US? Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
[quote=eee]>We need politicians that understand how businesses work and how they succeed
Trump isn't a particularly good businessman though? He's not bad but he's far from the best and not particularly nuanced with what he's shown[/quote]
Given that he is at the top .0001% I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself. Has he made mistakes? Yes. Has he taken risks? Yes. Has he taken advantage of legal bankruptcy laws? Yes, several times.
Didn't he just open a hotel right next to the white house ahead of schedule and under budget? Not sure how familiar you are with real estate development but that kind of thing rarely happens. I'd say he's pretty good at business.
i cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!!
i cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!!
if you weigh for GDP and effective tax rates the US's tax rate is about 20% higher than most other first world countries according to the world bank, with ~27.9% vs ~24.2%. For the majority of businesses saving ~3% of your gross that was going to taxes will not be weighed out by going overseas. You can tell this because you'll notice most businesses that aren't international conglomerates have stayed in the US
> Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
Slashing taxes is only going to fix one of those. Cost of employment is a factor of cost of living. I don't think you actually want to start slashing regulations, Supply chains aren't a significant issue for a global company when comparing the US and China since you'll still have to ship roughly equal amounts between the two regardless. Factory set-up cost is mostly because of looser labor laws and lower cost of living. You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China
> Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy
>I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself
Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.
remedyi cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!!
I don't have friends and im too scared to kill myself shitposting is my only hobby
[url=http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/sr195.pdf]if you weigh for GDP and effective tax rates the US's tax rate is about 20% higher than most other first world countries according to the world bank, with ~27.9% vs ~24.2%[/url]. For the majority of businesses saving ~3% of your gross that was going to taxes will not be weighed out by going overseas. You can tell this because you'll notice most businesses that aren't international conglomerates have stayed in the US
> Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
Slashing taxes is only going to fix one of those. Cost of employment is a factor of cost of living. I don't think you actually want to start slashing regulations, Supply chains aren't a significant issue for a global company when comparing the US and China since you'll still have to ship roughly equal amounts between the two regardless. Factory set-up cost is mostly because of looser labor laws and lower cost of living. [b]You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these[/b]. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China
> Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy
>I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself
Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.
[quote=remedy]i cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!![/quote]
I don't have friends and im too scared to kill myself shitposting is my only hobby
> Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
Slashing taxes is only going to fix one of those. Cost of employment is a factor of cost of living. I don't think you actually want to start slashing regulations, Supply chains aren't a significant issue for a global company when comparing the US and China since you'll still have to ship roughly equal amounts between the two regardless. Factory set-up cost is mostly because of looser labor laws and lower cost of living. [b]You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these[/b]. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China
> Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy
>I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself
Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.
[quote=remedy]i cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!![/quote]
I don't have friends and im too scared to kill myself shitposting is my only hobby
"You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China"
The main idea is that people don't really like to be taxed but put up with it up to a point, raw capitalism states that not having an income tax at all is the best way to go. This link below links to the model of the tax-anger relationship. Now you must keep in mind that most of economics (any model of it) is based on ideaology since its a social science and there just isnt enough data to be able to be certain of anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve
all that being said i agree that low wage countries will beat us when it comes to cheap labor
"You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China"
The main idea is that people don't really like to be taxed but put up with it up to a point, raw capitalism states that not having an income tax at all is the best way to go. This link below links to the model of the tax-anger relationship. Now you must keep in mind that most of economics (any model of it) is based on ideaology since its a social science and there just isnt enough data to be able to be certain of anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve
all that being said i agree that low wage countries will beat us when it comes to cheap labor
The main idea is that people don't really like to be taxed but put up with it up to a point, raw capitalism states that not having an income tax at all is the best way to go. This link below links to the model of the tax-anger relationship. Now you must keep in mind that most of economics (any model of it) is based on ideaology since its a social science and there just isnt enough data to be able to be certain of anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve
all that being said i agree that low wage countries will beat us when it comes to cheap labor
Im familiar, but i think the difference between the current tax rate and some hypothetical ideal isnt enough to outweigh other factors that make the first world unappealing for manufacture rn
Im familiar, but i think the difference between the current tax rate and some hypothetical ideal isnt enough to outweigh other factors that make the first world unappealing for manufacture rn
remedyi cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!!
I've already voted.
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eeeif you weigh for GDP and effective tax rates the US's tax rate is about 20% higher than most other first world countries according to the world bank, with ~27.9% vs ~24.2%. For the majority of businesses saving ~3% of your gross that was going to taxes will not be weighed out by going overseas. You can tell this because you'll notice most businesses that aren't international conglomerates have stayed in the US
> Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
Slashing taxes is only going to fix one of those. Cost of employment is a factor of cost of living. I don't think you actually want to start slashing regulations, Supply chains aren't a significant issue for a global company when comparing the US and China since you'll still have to ship roughly equal amounts between the two regardless. Factory set-up cost is mostly because of looser labor laws and lower cost of living. You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China
> Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy
>I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself
Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.
remedyi cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!!
I don't have friends and im too scared to kill myself shitposting is my only hobby
So you don't think that slashing corporate taxes from say 39% to say 15%, plus adding an exit tax and increased import taxes will have an effect on companies leaving the US?
You do have to cut regulations to make the US more business friendly. If it takes a 3 year environmental study before a factory can be built in the US, do you think a company will go through with building the factory? It's that kind of bs that needs to stop.
"You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these." It's a pretty simple concept. Lower taxes = more people are hired and more goods/services are consumed. If my tax rate was 0%, you can be sure as hell I'd have that new car, top of the line phone, ultrabook etc. More money in my pocket is more money to spend or invest, same goes for companies. A pretty basic economic concept.
"Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China" There are certainly types of products and commodities that we can and we do beat China on. Take the Tesla battery gigafactory for example. If they play their cards right they should be able to crush every battery manufacturer in the world on price because they will literally be mining a bulk of the raw materials nearby and doing every step of battery assembly in house (no middle men).
It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy
What on earth are you saying. The whole point in increasing import taxes is to increase US domestic consumption of locally produced goods and increase the GDP, rather than importing and increasing the GDP of another country. Increasing domestic production will also in turn increase the scale of production, decreasing costs, and increase supply chains and make the US more competitive on global markets.
I operate a US-based LLC. The majority of the products I sell are imported. I'd love to be able to buy more from the US, but 90% of what I buy and sell on a daily basis isn't even manufactured in this country at all regardless of price. So importing is the only option.
Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.
LOL did you watch the debates? Have you watched his speeches at his events. You are clueless.
"Scamming other companies." I fear that your sources are mainstream media such as the Clinton News Network.
Are you a supporter of crooked Hillary, or are you one of those 3rd party/not going to vote kind of people?
[quote=remedy]i cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!![/quote]
I've already voted.
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[quote=eee][url=http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/sr195.pdf]if you weigh for GDP and effective tax rates the US's tax rate is about 20% higher than most other first world countries according to the world bank, with ~27.9% vs ~24.2%[/url]. For the majority of businesses saving ~3% of your gross that was going to taxes will not be weighed out by going overseas. You can tell this because you'll notice most businesses that aren't international conglomerates have stayed in the US
> Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
Slashing taxes is only going to fix one of those. Cost of employment is a factor of cost of living. I don't think you actually want to start slashing regulations, Supply chains aren't a significant issue for a global company when comparing the US and China since you'll still have to ship roughly equal amounts between the two regardless. Factory set-up cost is mostly because of looser labor laws and lower cost of living. [b]You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these[/b]. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China
> Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy
>I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself
Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.
[quote=remedy]i cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!![/quote]
I don't have friends and im too scared to kill myself shitposting is my only hobby[/quote]
So you don't think that slashing corporate taxes from say 39% to say 15%, plus adding an exit tax and increased import taxes will have an effect on companies leaving the US?
Y[i]ou do have to cut regulations to make the US more business friendly.[/i] If it takes a 3 year environmental study before a factory can be built in the US, do you think a company will go through with building the factory? It's that kind of bs that needs to stop.
[i]"You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these."[/i] It's a pretty simple concept. Lower taxes = more people are hired and more goods/services are consumed. If my tax rate was 0%, you can be sure as hell I'd have that new car, top of the line phone, ultrabook etc. More money in my pocket is more money to spend or invest, same goes for companies. A pretty basic economic concept.
[i]"Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China"[/i] There are certainly types of products and commodities that we can and we do beat China on. Take the Tesla battery gigafactory for example. If they play their cards right they should be able to crush every battery manufacturer in the world on price because they will literally be mining a bulk of the raw materials nearby and doing every step of battery assembly in house (no middle men).
[i]It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy[/i]
What on earth are you saying. The whole point in increasing import taxes is to increase US domestic consumption of locally produced goods and increase the GDP, rather than importing and increasing the GDP of another country. Increasing domestic production will also in turn increase the scale of production, decreasing costs, and increase supply chains and make the US more competitive on global markets.
I operate a US-based LLC. The majority of the products I sell are imported. I'd love to be able to buy more from the US, but 90% of what I buy and sell on a daily basis isn't even manufactured in this country at all regardless of price. So importing is the only option.
[i]Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.[/i]
LOL did you watch the debates? Have you watched his speeches at his events. You are clueless.
"Scamming other companies." I fear that your sources are mainstream media such as the Clinton News Network.
Are you a supporter of crooked Hillary, or are you one of those 3rd party/not going to vote kind of people?
I've already voted.
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[quote=eee][url=http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/sr195.pdf]if you weigh for GDP and effective tax rates the US's tax rate is about 20% higher than most other first world countries according to the world bank, with ~27.9% vs ~24.2%[/url]. For the majority of businesses saving ~3% of your gross that was going to taxes will not be weighed out by going overseas. You can tell this because you'll notice most businesses that aren't international conglomerates have stayed in the US
> Lower corporate taxes. Lower cost of employment. Far less red tape and regulations. Close by supply chains for just about anything. Lower factory set-up cost. etc etc etc.
Slashing taxes is only going to fix one of those. Cost of employment is a factor of cost of living. I don't think you actually want to start slashing regulations, Supply chains aren't a significant issue for a global company when comparing the US and China since you'll still have to ship roughly equal amounts between the two regardless. Factory set-up cost is mostly because of looser labor laws and lower cost of living. [b]You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these[/b]. Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China
> Lower corporate taxes, higher import taxes, exit taxes are a pretty darn good deterrent to prevent companies from leaving.
It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy
>I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself
Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.
[quote=remedy]i cant wait to see which one of you changes the other person's mind before the final day to vote!!![/quote]
I don't have friends and im too scared to kill myself shitposting is my only hobby[/quote]
So you don't think that slashing corporate taxes from say 39% to say 15%, plus adding an exit tax and increased import taxes will have an effect on companies leaving the US?
Y[i]ou do have to cut regulations to make the US more business friendly.[/i] If it takes a 3 year environmental study before a factory can be built in the US, do you think a company will go through with building the factory? It's that kind of bs that needs to stop.
[i]"You haven't explained how lowering the tax rate will impact any of these."[/i] It's a pretty simple concept. Lower taxes = more people are hired and more goods/services are consumed. If my tax rate was 0%, you can be sure as hell I'd have that new car, top of the line phone, ultrabook etc. More money in my pocket is more money to spend or invest, same goes for companies. A pretty basic economic concept.
[i]"Taxes are a lesser expense than cost of manufacture, and you'll never have the US beating China"[/i] There are certainly types of products and commodities that we can and we do beat China on. Take the Tesla battery gigafactory for example. If they play their cards right they should be able to crush every battery manufacturer in the world on price because they will literally be mining a bulk of the raw materials nearby and doing every step of battery assembly in house (no middle men).
[i]It also makes it harder for international companies to compete in the US which makes the US a weaker economy in the global market. Expanding manufacturing artificially for 20 years in the US isn't going to save the economy[/i]
What on earth are you saying. The whole point in increasing import taxes is to increase US domestic consumption of locally produced goods and increase the GDP, rather than importing and increasing the GDP of another country. Increasing domestic production will also in turn increase the scale of production, decreasing costs, and increase supply chains and make the US more competitive on global markets.
I operate a US-based LLC. The majority of the products I sell are imported. I'd love to be able to buy more from the US, but 90% of what I buy and sell on a daily basis isn't even manufactured in this country at all regardless of price. So importing is the only option.
[i]Arguably. Much of his success seems based on scamming other companies and other less than ethical business practices. He hasn't demonstrated his actual business sense in any of his proposals.[/i]
LOL did you watch the debates? Have you watched his speeches at his events. You are clueless.
"Scamming other companies." I fear that your sources are mainstream media such as the Clinton News Network.
Are you a supporter of crooked Hillary, or are you one of those 3rd party/not going to vote kind of people?
http://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.
http://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.
BBiA_duchesshttp://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.
idk man the gaypocalypse has been pretty chaotic so far
[quote=BBiA_duchess]http://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.[/quote]
idk man the gaypocalypse has been pretty chaotic so far
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.[/quote]
idk man the gaypocalypse has been pretty chaotic so far
BBiA_duchesshttp://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Climate change (previously called global warming) is mostly a lie. Man burning fossil fuels does create Co2 which does in turn increase the temperature of the earth, but it is so small (if you light a candle in your house it increases the temperature slightly). The much bigger problem is not OMG Co2 emissions are going to destroy the planet! The problem is pollution of our air and our water in some places. It is a very big problem in large cities and in quite a few places in China for example.
Climate Scientists look at the last 100-200 years of temperature data and think the world is going to overheat, but they basically ignore history. They ignore very basic things like places in Europe that a few hundred years ago used to grow grapes for wine production, and now its too cold today. What about ice ages?
A few hundred years ago Greenland was said to be a very nice place with a great climate. Many years later they found deep graves of people burred in solid permafrost. No way would they have dug down through solid permafrost to bury a body. It would have been near impossible to do so. There was no permafrost.
The earth goes through big climate cycles every few hundred years, don't freak out about it, focus on the real issues like pollution.
If politicians were really afraid of OMG Co2 emissions are destroying the planet, they'd probably start by regulating not car emissions but the top 10 largest container ships in the world which create much more co2 and other toxic emissions than all the cars in the world combined. Hmm I dont know, maybe something like powering them with nuclear reactors, something the US navy has had success and no accidents with in the last 50 years might be a good option...
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Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
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Anyone thinking of supporting Hillary should really take a look at the top100 most damaging wikleaks so far: http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
[quote=BBiA_duchess]http://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.[/quote]
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Climate change (previously called global warming) is mostly a lie. Man burning fossil fuels does create Co2 which does in turn increase the temperature of the earth, but it is so small (if you light a candle in your house it increases the temperature slightly). The much bigger problem is not OMG Co2 emissions are going to destroy the planet! The problem is pollution of our air and our water in some places. It is a very big problem in large cities and in quite a few places in China for example.
Climate Scientists look at the last 100-200 years of temperature data and think the world is going to overheat, but they basically ignore history. They ignore very basic things like places in Europe that a few hundred years ago used to grow grapes for wine production, and now its too cold today. What about ice ages?
A few hundred years ago Greenland was said to be a very nice place with a great climate. Many years later they found deep graves of people burred in solid permafrost. No way would they have dug down through solid permafrost to bury a body. It would have been near impossible to do so. There was no permafrost.
The earth goes through big climate cycles every few hundred years, don't freak out about it, focus on the real issues like pollution.
If politicians were really afraid of OMG Co2 emissions are destroying the planet, they'd probably start by regulating not car emissions but the top 10 largest container ships in the world which create much more co2 and other toxic emissions than all the cars in the world combined. Hmm I dont know, maybe something like powering them with nuclear reactors, something the US navy has had success and no accidents with in the last 50 years might be a good option...
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Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
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Anyone thinking of supporting Hillary should really take a look at the top100 most damaging wikleaks so far: http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.[/quote]
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Climate change (previously called global warming) is mostly a lie. Man burning fossil fuels does create Co2 which does in turn increase the temperature of the earth, but it is so small (if you light a candle in your house it increases the temperature slightly). The much bigger problem is not OMG Co2 emissions are going to destroy the planet! The problem is pollution of our air and our water in some places. It is a very big problem in large cities and in quite a few places in China for example.
Climate Scientists look at the last 100-200 years of temperature data and think the world is going to overheat, but they basically ignore history. They ignore very basic things like places in Europe that a few hundred years ago used to grow grapes for wine production, and now its too cold today. What about ice ages?
A few hundred years ago Greenland was said to be a very nice place with a great climate. Many years later they found deep graves of people burred in solid permafrost. No way would they have dug down through solid permafrost to bury a body. It would have been near impossible to do so. There was no permafrost.
The earth goes through big climate cycles every few hundred years, don't freak out about it, focus on the real issues like pollution.
If politicians were really afraid of OMG Co2 emissions are destroying the planet, they'd probably start by regulating not car emissions but the top 10 largest container ships in the world which create much more co2 and other toxic emissions than all the cars in the world combined. Hmm I dont know, maybe something like powering them with nuclear reactors, something the US navy has had success and no accidents with in the last 50 years might be a good option...
--------------------------------------
Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
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Anyone thinking of supporting Hillary should really take a look at the top100 most damaging wikleaks so far: http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
Im not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :(
Im not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :(
Sry :(
eeeIm not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :(
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
The IPCC (intergovernmental panel on climate change) has stated that since 1861 global temperatures have increased 0.6C on average. OMG! I'd love to see the data on the global temperature during the transition phase between an ice age and not an ice age. I sure as hell believe it would be a lot more than 0.6C per 150 years.
[quote=eee]Im not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
The IPCC (intergovernmental panel on climate change) has stated that since 1861 global temperatures have increased 0.6C on average. OMG! I'd love to see the data on the global temperature during the transition phase between an ice age and not an ice age. I sure as hell believe it would be a lot more than 0.6C per 150 years.
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
The IPCC (intergovernmental panel on climate change) has stated that since 1861 global temperatures have increased 0.6C on average. OMG! I'd love to see the data on the global temperature during the transition phase between an ice age and not an ice age. I sure as hell believe it would be a lot more than 0.6C per 150 years.
dollarlayereeeIm not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :(
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
this is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is over
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer
[quote=dollarlayer][quote=eee]Im not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?[/quote]
this is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is over
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?[/quote]
this is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is over
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer
remedydollarlayerthis is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is overeeeIm not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :(
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer
So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea.
[quote=remedy][quote=dollarlayer][quote=eee]Im not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?[/quote]
this is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is over
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer[/quote]
So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea.
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?[/quote]
this is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is over
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer[/quote]
So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea.
dollarlayerHe is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
#1. Being against forced vaccs and being against vaccs because they dont do anything or some shit are two different things. 1 is retarded but makes sense because people get the right to choose blah blah, the other just makes you retarded. Where does trump sit is the question.
#2. What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Like Trump supporters are isolationist as fuck, the want to ban an entire religion from the country, the want to build a fuckign wall, yet what Clinton does in the international scene somehow matters to them? The fuck is that mental disconnect holy shit.
Yes Clinton may be a poor choice as someone to lead the US when you look at all the past leaders of the country. But Trump is 100% by far The. Worst. Candidate. To. Ever. Run. And the fact that people cant see that just shows how fucked the US is as a country.
[quote=dollarlayer]
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
[/quote]
#1. Being against forced vaccs and being against vaccs because they dont do anything or some shit are two different things. 1 is retarded but makes sense because people get the right to choose blah blah, the other just makes you retarded. Where does trump sit is the question.
#2. What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Like Trump supporters are isolationist as fuck, the want to ban an entire religion from the country, the want to build a fuckign wall, yet what Clinton does in the international scene somehow matters to them? The fuck is that mental disconnect holy shit.
Yes Clinton may be a poor choice as someone to lead the US when you look at all the past leaders of the country. But Trump is 100% by far The. Worst. Candidate. To. Ever. Run. And the fact that people cant see that just shows how fucked the US is as a country.
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
[/quote]
#1. Being against forced vaccs and being against vaccs because they dont do anything or some shit are two different things. 1 is retarded but makes sense because people get the right to choose blah blah, the other just makes you retarded. Where does trump sit is the question.
#2. What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Like Trump supporters are isolationist as fuck, the want to ban an entire religion from the country, the want to build a fuckign wall, yet what Clinton does in the international scene somehow matters to them? The fuck is that mental disconnect holy shit.
Yes Clinton may be a poor choice as someone to lead the US when you look at all the past leaders of the country. But Trump is 100% by far The. Worst. Candidate. To. Ever. Run. And the fact that people cant see that just shows how fucked the US is as a country.
dollarlayerremedydollarlayerthis is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is overeeeIm not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :(
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer
So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea.
did i say pollution was good or something
[quote=dollarlayer][quote=remedy][quote=dollarlayer][quote=eee]Im not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?[/quote]
this is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is over
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer[/quote]
So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea.[/quote]
did i say pollution was good or something
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?[/quote]
this is some jill stein level science knowledge i think this current argument is over
and yes that is in fact true that the earth goes through cycles but the actual issue right now is that we are artificially increasing the warming rate by destroying the Ozone layer[/quote]
So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea.[/quote]
did i say pollution was good or something
Tino_the want to ban an entire religion from the country, the want to build a fuckign wall, yet what Clinton does in the international scene somehow matters to them? The fuck is that mental disconnect holy shit.
Really, Trump supporters want to ban en entire religion from the country. That is news to me. Is that something you picked up on through a left wing news station? To be clear, Trump initially (after several terrorist attacks) proposed a temporary ban on Muslim Immigration into the US, until the government could figure out how to vet people and differentiate the extremists from the moderates. Later on he scaled down his approach, but still wants extreme vetting for people trying to enter the country from nations with ties to Terrorism. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
Tino_Yes Clinton may be a poor choice as someone to lead the US when you look at all the past leaders of the country. But Trump is 100% by far The. Worst. Candidate. To. Ever. Run. And the fact that people cant see that just shows how fucked the US is as a country.
I'd really like to hear your reasons as to why Trump is so bad. Here I'll list some for why Hillary is by far the worst and most corrupt candidate to ever run:
1) Pay to play corruption
2) Bribes from foreign governments
3) Lying under oath to Congress (a felony)
4) Lying to the FBI
5) Gross negligence of classified material (a felony)
6) 100's of mysterious deaths that surround the Clintons. Far to many to be brushed off as a conspiracy theory.
7) Covering up and threatening Bill Clinton's rape victims.
8) Selling arms to terrorists
9) Lying under oath to congress and to the famalies about Lybia, when her direct actions caused the deaths of multiple people.
10) Later laughing about the deaths of these people.
11) Defending someone in court that she knew was a rapist that brutally raped a 13 year old girl to the point that doctors said she will likely never reproduce. Getting this rapist off without punishment and laughing and joking and bragging about it years later.
12) Collusion with the DOJ
13) Collusion with the media
14) Illegal election activities and rigging against Bernie and Trump, many of them disclosed in the wikileaks podesta emails and in the project veritas videos.
I'm not sure if you are naive, stupid, or only listen to the mainstream media, but please open up your mind and do research before you make such an outrageous statement that Trump is worse than Hillary.
remedydid i say pollution was good or something
Did I say you did?
[quote=Tino_]the want to ban an entire religion from the country, the want to build a fuckign wall, yet what Clinton does in the international scene somehow matters to them? The fuck is that mental disconnect holy shit.[/quote]
Really, Trump supporters want to ban en entire religion from the country. That is news to me. Is that something you picked up on through a left wing news station? To be clear, Trump initially (after several terrorist attacks) proposed a temporary ban on Muslim Immigration into the US, until the government could figure out how to vet people and differentiate the extremists from the moderates. Later on he scaled down his approach, but still wants extreme vetting for people trying to enter the country from nations with ties to Terrorism. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
[quote=Tino_]Yes Clinton may be a poor choice as someone to lead the US when you look at all the past leaders of the country. But Trump is 100% by far The. Worst. Candidate. To. Ever. Run. And the fact that people cant see that just shows how fucked the US is as a country.[/quote]
I'd really like to hear your reasons as to why Trump is so bad. Here I'll list some for why Hillary is by far the worst and most corrupt candidate to ever run:
1) Pay to play corruption
2) Bribes from foreign governments
3) Lying under oath to Congress (a felony)
4) Lying to the FBI
5) Gross negligence of classified material (a felony)
6) 100's of mysterious deaths that surround the Clintons. Far to many to be brushed off as a conspiracy theory.
7) Covering up and threatening Bill Clinton's rape victims.
8) Selling arms to terrorists
9) Lying under oath to congress and to the famalies about Lybia, when her direct actions caused the deaths of multiple people.
10) Later laughing about the deaths of these people.
11) Defending someone in court that she knew was a rapist that brutally raped a 13 year old girl to the point that doctors said she will likely never reproduce. Getting this rapist off without punishment and laughing and joking and bragging about it years later.
12) Collusion with the DOJ
13) Collusion with the media
14) Illegal election activities and rigging against Bernie and Trump, many of them disclosed in the wikileaks podesta emails and in the project veritas videos.
I'm not sure if you are naive, stupid, or only listen to the mainstream media, but please open up your mind and do research before you make such an outrageous statement that Trump is worse than Hillary.
[quote=remedy]did i say pollution was good or something[/quote]
Did I say you did?
Really, Trump supporters want to ban en entire religion from the country. That is news to me. Is that something you picked up on through a left wing news station? To be clear, Trump initially (after several terrorist attacks) proposed a temporary ban on Muslim Immigration into the US, until the government could figure out how to vet people and differentiate the extremists from the moderates. Later on he scaled down his approach, but still wants extreme vetting for people trying to enter the country from nations with ties to Terrorism. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
[quote=Tino_]Yes Clinton may be a poor choice as someone to lead the US when you look at all the past leaders of the country. But Trump is 100% by far The. Worst. Candidate. To. Ever. Run. And the fact that people cant see that just shows how fucked the US is as a country.[/quote]
I'd really like to hear your reasons as to why Trump is so bad. Here I'll list some for why Hillary is by far the worst and most corrupt candidate to ever run:
1) Pay to play corruption
2) Bribes from foreign governments
3) Lying under oath to Congress (a felony)
4) Lying to the FBI
5) Gross negligence of classified material (a felony)
6) 100's of mysterious deaths that surround the Clintons. Far to many to be brushed off as a conspiracy theory.
7) Covering up and threatening Bill Clinton's rape victims.
8) Selling arms to terrorists
9) Lying under oath to congress and to the famalies about Lybia, when her direct actions caused the deaths of multiple people.
10) Later laughing about the deaths of these people.
11) Defending someone in court that she knew was a rapist that brutally raped a 13 year old girl to the point that doctors said she will likely never reproduce. Getting this rapist off without punishment and laughing and joking and bragging about it years later.
12) Collusion with the DOJ
13) Collusion with the media
14) Illegal election activities and rigging against Bernie and Trump, many of them disclosed in the wikileaks podesta emails and in the project veritas videos.
I'm not sure if you are naive, stupid, or only listen to the mainstream media, but please open up your mind and do research before you make such an outrageous statement that Trump is worse than Hillary.
[quote=remedy]did i say pollution was good or something[/quote]
Did I say you did?
"So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea."
i guess that was just you brushing off the fact that you're a science retard and not really implying that i didnt care about pollution by saying global warming isnt important compared to the things you listed
"So are you concerned by 0.6C increase in temperature in 150 years? I'm more concerned by real issues like pollution of our water, our air and mass deforestation, and trash in the sea."
i guess that was just you brushing off the fact that you're a science retard and not really implying that i didnt care about pollution by saying global warming isnt important compared to the things you listed
i guess that was just you brushing off the fact that you're a science retard and not really implying that i didnt care about pollution by saying global warming isnt important compared to the things you listed
dollarlayereeeIm not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :(
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
The IPCC (intergovernmental panel on climate change) has stated that since 1861 global temperatures have increased 0.6C on average. OMG! I'd love to see the data on the global temperature during the transition phase between an ice age and not an ice age. I sure as hell believe it would be a lot more than 0.6C per 150 years.
That feeling when you're so stupid you don't understand the massive impact 0.6 C makes on the environment
[quote=dollarlayer][quote=eee]Im not going to respond to your posts anymore if you think climate change isnt real, because youre honestly too stupid for words to be useful
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
The IPCC (intergovernmental panel on climate change) has stated that since 1861 global temperatures have increased 0.6C on average. OMG! I'd love to see the data on the global temperature during the transition phase between an ice age and not an ice age. I sure as hell believe it would be a lot more than 0.6C per 150 years.[/quote]
That feeling when you're so stupid you don't understand the massive impact 0.6 C makes on the environment
Sry :([/quote]
Climate change is real, the climate changes by itself and has for thousands of years which is what I stated. What the hell do you think ice ages were? Not climate change?
The IPCC (intergovernmental panel on climate change) has stated that since 1861 global temperatures have increased 0.6C on average. OMG! I'd love to see the data on the global temperature during the transition phase between an ice age and not an ice age. I sure as hell believe it would be a lot more than 0.6C per 150 years.[/quote]
That feeling when you're so stupid you don't understand the massive impact 0.6 C makes on the environment
BBiA_duchessThat feeling when you're so stupid you don't understand the massive impact 0.6 C makes on the environment
Tell me more. The grapes in parts of Europe loved the warmer weather. The grave diggers in Greenland had it easier too without having to dig through solid permafrost. And we're talking likely a 5-10C increase in temperature vs today, not 0.6C.
[quote=BBiA_duchess]That feeling when you're so stupid you don't understand the massive impact 0.6 C makes on the environment[/quote]
Tell me more. The grapes in parts of Europe loved the warmer weather. The grave diggers in Greenland had it easier too without having to dig through solid permafrost. And we're talking likely a 5-10C increase in temperature vs today, not 0.6C.
Tell me more. The grapes in parts of Europe loved the warmer weather. The grave diggers in Greenland had it easier too without having to dig through solid permafrost. And we're talking likely a 5-10C increase in temperature vs today, not 0.6C.
dollarlayerBBiA_duchesshttp://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Climate change (previously called global warming) is mostly a lie. Man burning fossil fuels does create Co2 which does in turn increase the temperature of the earth, but it is so small (if you light a candle in your house it increases the temperature slightly). The much bigger problem is not OMG Co2 emissions are going to destroy the planet! The problem is pollution of our air and our water in some places. It is a very big problem in large cities and in quite a few places in China for example.
Climate Scientists look at the last 100-200 years of temperature data and think the world is going to overheat, but they basically ignore history. They ignore very basic things like places in Europe that a few hundred years ago used to grow grapes for wine production, and now its too cold today. What about ice ages?
A few hundred years ago Greenland was said to be a very nice place with a great climate. Many years later they found deep graves of people burred in solid permafrost. No way would they have dug down through solid permafrost to bury a body. It would have been near impossible to do so. There was no permafrost.
The earth goes through big climate cycles every few hundred years, don't freak out about it, focus on the real issues like pollution.
If politicians were really afraid of OMG Co2 emissions are destroying the planet, they'd probably start by regulating not car emissions but the top 10 largest container ships in the world which create much more co2 and other toxic emissions than all the cars in the world combined. Hmm I dont know, maybe something like powering them with nuclear reactors, something the US navy has had success and no accidents with in the last 50 years might be a good option...
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Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
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Anyone thinking of supporting Hillary should really take a look at the top100 most damaging wikleaks so far: http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
lol
[quote=dollarlayer][quote=BBiA_duchess]http://i.imgur.com/USA6q1F.jpg
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.[/quote]
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Climate change (previously called global warming) is mostly a lie. Man burning fossil fuels does create Co2 which does in turn increase the temperature of the earth, but it is so small (if you light a candle in your house it increases the temperature slightly). The much bigger problem is not OMG Co2 emissions are going to destroy the planet! The problem is pollution of our air and our water in some places. It is a very big problem in large cities and in quite a few places in China for example.
Climate Scientists look at the last 100-200 years of temperature data and think the world is going to overheat, but they basically ignore history. They ignore very basic things like places in Europe that a few hundred years ago used to grow grapes for wine production, and now its too cold today. What about ice ages?
A few hundred years ago Greenland was said to be a very nice place with a great climate. Many years later they found deep graves of people burred in solid permafrost. No way would they have dug down through solid permafrost to bury a body. It would have been near impossible to do so. There was no permafrost.
The earth goes through big climate cycles every few hundred years, don't freak out about it, focus on the real issues like pollution.
If politicians were really afraid of OMG Co2 emissions are destroying the planet, they'd probably start by regulating not car emissions but the top 10 largest container ships in the world which create much more co2 and other toxic emissions than all the cars in the world combined. Hmm I dont know, maybe something like powering them with nuclear reactors, something the US navy has had success and no accidents with in the last 50 years might be a good option...
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Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
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Anyone thinking of supporting Hillary should really take a look at the top100 most damaging wikleaks so far: http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/[/quote]
lol
A lot of people here need to take a good hard look at this. Trump thinks we don't need vaccinations, and that states can decide whether or not gay people can get married. Those tow things by themselves are so retarded that I can't believe people would ever consider him. He also ignores climate change.[/quote]
He is against forced vaccinations, so am I. If you've actually done a few hours of research and read about them, you might be against them as well.
Climate change (previously called global warming) is mostly a lie. Man burning fossil fuels does create Co2 which does in turn increase the temperature of the earth, but it is so small (if you light a candle in your house it increases the temperature slightly). The much bigger problem is not OMG Co2 emissions are going to destroy the planet! The problem is pollution of our air and our water in some places. It is a very big problem in large cities and in quite a few places in China for example.
Climate Scientists look at the last 100-200 years of temperature data and think the world is going to overheat, but they basically ignore history. They ignore very basic things like places in Europe that a few hundred years ago used to grow grapes for wine production, and now its too cold today. What about ice ages?
A few hundred years ago Greenland was said to be a very nice place with a great climate. Many years later they found deep graves of people burred in solid permafrost. No way would they have dug down through solid permafrost to bury a body. It would have been near impossible to do so. There was no permafrost.
The earth goes through big climate cycles every few hundred years, don't freak out about it, focus on the real issues like pollution.
If politicians were really afraid of OMG Co2 emissions are destroying the planet, they'd probably start by regulating not car emissions but the top 10 largest container ships in the world which create much more co2 and other toxic emissions than all the cars in the world combined. Hmm I dont know, maybe something like powering them with nuclear reactors, something the US navy has had success and no accidents with in the last 50 years might be a good option...
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Hillary can support gay marriage all she want's, but lets not forget that she accepts money from foreign countries that put Gay's to death just for being gay, and some of these same countries allow men to beat women. She doesn't give a damn about them, and will do anything she can to get elected.
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Anyone thinking of supporting Hillary should really take a look at the top100 most damaging wikleaks so far: http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/[/quote]
lol
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