The ASUS has a g sync module so I don't really see how it'll be priced anywhere close to the freesync models. Their pricing has never been generous, but I guess we'll see.
Don't understand the slin downvotes. I think it's a tough decision between these panels and the cheaper 165Hz 24inch 1440p panels.
Strobing at 240Hz sounds super nice though, but not for $699 AUD. (puke)
The ASUS has a g sync module so I don't really see how it'll be priced anywhere close to the freesync models. Their pricing has never been generous, but I guess we'll see.
Don't understand the slin downvotes. I think it's a tough decision between these panels and the cheaper 165Hz 24inch 1440p panels.
Strobing at 240Hz sounds super nice though, but not for $699 AUD. (puke)
MR_SLINanyone else bummed that it's a 24.5 inch monitor at 1080p? not sure if worth
i think you're missing the point of the monitor
[quote=MR_SLIN]anyone else bummed that it's a 24.5 inch monitor at 1080p? not sure if worth[/quote]
i think you're missing the point of the monitor
MR_SLINanyone else bummed that it's a 24.5 inch monitor at 1080p? not sure if worth
no
[quote=MR_SLIN]anyone else bummed that it's a 24.5 inch monitor at 1080p? not sure if worth[/quote]
no
sopsto get over 240 stable fps in tf2 is very hard
The game is almost entirely CPU bound. A RX470 or equivalent could EASILY do it. The problem lies in CPU. TF2 doesn't scale at all beyond 3 threads. So you basically want the highest clocked quad core high IPC CPU you can get your hands on for max FPS in TF2. More cores and a higher end GPU won't make a difference.
saamrunning games at 1080p@250fps is crazy enough idk if you would even want 1440p
The kind of games that would be able to use 240hz are mostly CPU bound source engine games and other ancient games where raising the rez won't make any real difference to FPS. Also people do play games that are not as FPS dependent. I like 144+ fps in TF2 but when im playing something like The Witcher 3 i turn up all my settings and play comfortably at 40fps.
[quote=sops]to get over 240 stable fps in tf2 is very hard[/quote]
The game is almost entirely CPU bound. A RX470 or equivalent could EASILY do it. The problem lies in CPU. TF2 doesn't scale at all beyond 3 threads. So you basically want the highest clocked quad core high IPC CPU you can get your hands on for max FPS in TF2. More cores and a higher end GPU won't make a difference.
[quote=saam]running games at 1080p@250fps is crazy enough idk if you would even want 1440p[/quote]
The kind of games that would be able to use 240hz are mostly CPU bound source engine games and other ancient games where raising the rez won't make any real difference to FPS. Also people do play games that are not as FPS dependent. I like 144+ fps in TF2 but when im playing something like The Witcher 3 i turn up all my settings and play comfortably at 40fps.
sopsto get over 240 stable fps in tf2 is very hard
i hover at 300 with a 960m and a graphics config
[quote=sops]to get over 240 stable fps in tf2 is very hard[/quote]
i hover at 300 with a 960m and a graphics config
Screwballsopsto get over 240 stable fps in tf2 is very hard
The game is almost entirely CPU bound. A RX470 or equivalent could EASILY do it. The problem lies in CPU. TF2 doesn't scale at all beyond 3 threads. So you basically want the highest clocked quad core high IPC CPU you can get your hands on for max FPS in TF2. More cores and a higher end GPU won't make a difference.
saamrunning games at 1080p@250fps is crazy enough idk if you would even want 1440p
The kind of games that would be able to use 240hz are mostly CPU bound source engine games and other ancient games where raising the rez won't make any real difference to FPS. Also people do play games that are not as FPS dependent. I like 144+ fps in TF2 but when im playing something like The Witcher 3 i turn up all my settings and play comfortably at 40fps.
While i agree this monitor is useless for AAA games, SP campaigns, and basically any game where you can't run a stabbystabby type of LOD, all your tf2 arguments are wrong.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/575692318000194216/8AE200BFCCD48E72108F7CFC6E5751CA98D61A87/
TF2 > check fps counter in that screenshot > max settings and x16 AA (i can see everything, no need for cfgs or random scripts / mods that just put more loads on cpu) > 300 fps > i7 5820k stock clock (3.30ghz) -thread launch option set for my cpu count > had an amd r9 380 at the time of this screen > still 300 fps because it's capped :/
ScrewballSo you basically want the highest clocked quad core high IPC CPU you can get your hands on for max FPS in TF2. More cores and a higher end GPU won't make a difference.
i had to
[quote=Screwball][quote=sops]to get over 240 stable fps in tf2 is very hard[/quote]
The game is almost entirely CPU bound. A RX470 or equivalent could EASILY do it. The problem lies in CPU. TF2 doesn't scale at all beyond 3 threads. So you basically want the highest clocked quad core high IPC CPU you can get your hands on for max FPS in TF2. More cores and a higher end GPU won't make a difference.
[quote=saam]running games at 1080p@250fps is crazy enough idk if you would even want 1440p[/quote]
The kind of games that would be able to use 240hz are mostly CPU bound source engine games and other ancient games where raising the rez won't make any real difference to FPS. Also people do play games that are not as FPS dependent. I like 144+ fps in TF2 but when im playing something like The Witcher 3 i turn up all my settings and play comfortably at 40fps.[/quote]
While i agree this monitor is useless for AAA games, SP campaigns, and basically any game where you can't run a stabbystabby type of LOD, all your tf2 arguments are wrong.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/575692318000194216/8AE200BFCCD48E72108F7CFC6E5751CA98D61A87/
TF2 > check fps counter in that screenshot > max settings and x16 AA (i can see everything, no need for cfgs or random scripts / mods that just put more loads on cpu) > 300 fps > i7 5820k stock clock (3.30ghz) -thread launch option set for my cpu count > had an amd r9 380 at the time of this screen > still 300 fps because it's capped :/
[quote=Screwball]So you basically want the highest clocked quad core high IPC CPU you can get your hands on for max FPS in TF2. More cores and a higher end GPU won't make a difference.[/quote]
i had to
WOW 300 FPS while staring at a wall and a single Heavy! IMPRESSIVE
Your FPS highs and even averages are irrelevant. The lows are what matter. I have a 12 core 24 thread Xeon 2670-V3 and i get FPS dips as low as the upper 70s. These are 3Ghz Haswell-EP cores with a shitload of cache behind them.
There was absolutely no FPS difference when going from a 7970 to a 780ti. I run 2x SSAA and there is no difference in FPS with it on or off.
WOW 300 FPS while staring at a wall and a single Heavy! IMPRESSIVE
Your FPS highs and even averages are irrelevant. The lows are what matter. I have a 12 core 24 thread Xeon 2670-V3 and i get FPS dips as low as the upper 70s. These are 3Ghz Haswell-EP cores with a shitload of cache behind them.
There was absolutely no FPS difference when going from a 7970 to a 780ti. I run 2x SSAA and there is no difference in FPS with it on or off.
ScrewballWOW 300 FPS while staring at a wall and a single Heavy! IMPRESSIVE
Your FPS highs and even averages are irrelevant. The lows are what matter. I have a 12 core 24 thread Xeon 2670-V3 and i get FPS dips as low as the upper 70s. These are 3Ghz Haswell-EP cores with a shitload of cache behind them.
There was absolutely no FPS difference when going from a 7970 to a 780ti. I run 2x SSAA and there is no difference in FPS with it on or off.
i said 300 fps average, which means on good maps im getting 320+ and bad maps (like viaduct) i get 270+
[quote=Screwball]WOW 300 FPS while staring at a wall and a single Heavy! IMPRESSIVE
Your FPS highs and even averages are irrelevant. The lows are what matter. I have a 12 core 24 thread Xeon 2670-V3 and i get FPS dips as low as the upper 70s. These are 3Ghz Haswell-EP cores with a shitload of cache behind them.
There was absolutely no FPS difference when going from a 7970 to a 780ti. I run 2x SSAA and there is no difference in FPS with it on or off.[/quote]
i said 300 fps average, which means on good maps im getting 320+ and bad maps (like viaduct) i get 270+
ScrewballThe kind of games that would be able to use 240hz are mostly CPU bound source engine games and other ancient games where raising the rez won't make any real difference to FPS. Also people do play games that are not as FPS dependent. I like 144+ fps in TF2 but when im playing something like The Witcher 3 i turn up all my settings and play comfortably at 40fps.
If I set Overwatch to low settings I get upwards of 400 FPS consistently, so this is a pretty good use case for that monitor
[quote=Screwball]
The kind of games that would be able to use 240hz are mostly CPU bound source engine games and other ancient games where raising the rez won't make any real difference to FPS. Also people do play games that are not as FPS dependent. I like 144+ fps in TF2 but when im playing something like The Witcher 3 i turn up all my settings and play comfortably at 40fps.[/quote]
If I set Overwatch to low settings I get upwards of 400 FPS consistently, so this is a pretty good use case for that monitor
240FPS on TF2 is probably unrealistic without some sort of optimisation, but I can hit 200FPS average on Overwatch with everything but shadows on the lowest settings (shadows on 'low', instead of 'off') with a 780Ti so I don't think 240FPS constant is out of the question with newer cards.
This monitor doesn't have the stupid elephant ears that the BenQ 240Hz monitor has for some stupid marketing reasons. Does anyone know if you can take those off the BenQ monitor because I use 2 monitors and my secondary monitor would be covered up by the BenQ monitor.
240FPS on TF2 is probably unrealistic without some sort of optimisation, but I can hit 200FPS average on Overwatch with everything but shadows on the lowest settings (shadows on 'low', instead of 'off') with a 780Ti so I don't think 240FPS constant is out of the question with newer cards.
This monitor doesn't have the stupid elephant ears that the BenQ 240Hz monitor has for some stupid marketing reasons. Does anyone know if you can take those off the BenQ monitor because I use 2 monitors and my secondary monitor would be covered up by the BenQ monitor.
Just lower your resolution to 720p if you get dips below 240 frames. I used to run a crt at 720p 180hz, It was totally worth it.
Just lower your resolution to 720p if you get dips below 240 frames. I used to run a crt at 720p 180hz, It was totally worth it.
ScrewballWOW 300 FPS while staring at a wall and a single Heavy! IMPRESSIVE
Your FPS highs and even averages are irrelevant. The lows are what matter. I have a 12 core 24 thread Xeon 2670-V3 and i get FPS dips as low as the upper 70s. These are 3Ghz Haswell-EP cores with a shitload of cache behind them.
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lmao..how are highs and averages irrelevant? tell me more about gauss curve and standard deviation. you could argue that in a measurement you discard lowest and highest values that appear less often than any other value and then calculate an average..surely you don't take only lows in account....
also excuse me if i don't have screens with fps counter set up for any scene but just 1 with a heavy and a wall.. i don't usually take screens as a benchmark or performance reference. still you can see a screen with 300 fps, again, capped, video settings cranked up on a 32 men server...average is about 240 fps..meaning it's very possible to get so many frames on tf2 and yes it takes a top tier cpu to achieve that, why would you want to play competitively with a budget system? besides, these kinds of monitors are equipped with g-sync / free-sync so why even bother talking about frames dropping below the refresh rate
[quote=Screwball]WOW 300 FPS while staring at a wall and a single Heavy! IMPRESSIVE
Your FPS highs and even averages are irrelevant. The lows are what matter. I have a 12 core 24 thread Xeon 2670-V3 and i get FPS dips as low as the upper 70s. These are 3Ghz Haswell-EP cores with a shitload of cache behind them.
[...][/quote]
lmao..how are highs and averages irrelevant? tell me more about gauss curve and standard deviation. you could argue that in a measurement you discard lowest and highest values that appear less often than any other value and then calculate an average..surely you don't take only lows in account....
also excuse me if i don't have screens with fps counter set up for any scene but just 1 with a heavy and a wall.. i don't usually take screens as a benchmark or performance reference. still you can see a screen with 300 fps, again, capped, video settings cranked up on a 32 men server...average is about 240 fps..meaning it's very possible to get so many frames on tf2 and yes it takes a top tier cpu to achieve that, why would you want to play competitively with a budget system? besides, these kinds of monitors are equipped with g-sync / free-sync so why even bother talking about frames dropping below the refresh rate
meth0dlmao..how are highs and averages irrelevant? tell me more about gauss curve and standard deviation. you could argue that in a measurement you discard lowest and highest values that appear less often than any other value and then calculate an average..surely you don't take only lows in account....
also excuse me if i don't have screens with fps counter set up for any scene but just 1 with a heavy and a wall.. i don't usually take screens as a benchmark or performance reference. still you can see a screen with 300 fps, again, capped, video settings cranked up on a 32 men server...average is about 240 fps..meaning it's very possible to get so many frames on tf2 and yes it takes a top tier cpu to achieve that, why would you want to play competitively with a budget system?
The Xeon 2670-V3 is a $1,736 CPU m8
Averages mean nothing because when action happens (IE when you actually need high FPS) your FPS goes down by more than half. No point in a 240hz monitor when your FPS are dipping to 140 in fights.
besides, these kinds of monitors are equipped with g-sync / free-sync so why even bother talking about frames dropping below the refresh rate
You shouldn't use anny form of "sync" in competitive FPS because it causes input lag.
[quote=meth0d]
lmao..how are highs and averages irrelevant? tell me more about gauss curve and standard deviation. you could argue that in a measurement you discard lowest and highest values that appear less often than any other value and then calculate an average..surely you don't take only lows in account....
also excuse me if i don't have screens with fps counter set up for any scene but just 1 with a heavy and a wall.. i don't usually take screens as a benchmark or performance reference. still you can see a screen with 300 fps, again, capped, video settings cranked up on a 32 men server...average is about 240 fps..meaning it's very possible to get so many frames on tf2 and yes it takes a top tier cpu to achieve that, why would you want to play competitively with a budget system?[/quote] The Xeon 2670-V3 is a $1,736 CPU m8
Averages mean nothing because when action happens (IE when you actually need high FPS) your FPS goes down by more than half. No point in a 240hz monitor when your FPS are dipping to 140 in fights.
[quote] besides, these kinds of monitors are equipped with g-sync / free-sync so why even bother talking about frames dropping below the refresh rate[/quote]
You shouldn't use anny form of "sync" in competitive FPS because it causes input lag.
im assuming that if you're getting a 240hz monitor you're gonna have a decent cpu/graphics card which can get you well above 240 frames
im assuming that if you're getting a 240hz monitor you're gonna have a decent cpu/graphics card which can get you well above 240 frames
#43 that's a complete waste for gaming needs. Games can't take advantage of that many cores. You'd actually get more frames with the standard quad i7s of the same generation: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8679/intel-haswellep-xeon-12-core-review-e5-2650l-v3-and-e5-2690-v3/4
#43 that's a complete waste for gaming needs. Games can't take advantage of that many cores. You'd actually get more frames with the standard quad i7s of the same generation: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8679/intel-haswellep-xeon-12-core-review-e5-2650l-v3-and-e5-2690-v3/4
Vulcanim assuming that if you're getting a 240hz monitor you're gonna have a decent cpu/graphics card which can get you well above 240 frames
The point is a good GPU and CPU is not enough to have stable 240 frames in TF2. Even 7700Ks @ 5.1GHz will see frequent FPS dips well below 240 frames. TF2 is a mess.
[quote=Vulcan]im assuming that if you're getting a 240hz monitor you're gonna have a decent cpu/graphics card which can get you well above 240 frames[/quote]
The point is a good GPU and CPU is not enough to have stable 240 frames in TF2. Even 7700Ks @ 5.1GHz will see frequent FPS dips well below 240 frames. TF2 is a mess.
TechDude#43 that's a complete waste for gaming needs. Games can't take advantage of that many cores. You'd actually get more frames with the standard quad i7s of the same generation: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8679/intel-haswellep-xeon-12-core-review-e5-2650l-v3-and-e5-2690-v3/4
Didn't buy it for gaming m8. I am just saying it is FAR from a low end CPU.
[quote=TechDude]#43 that's a complete waste for gaming needs. Games can't take advantage of that many cores. You'd actually get more frames with the standard quad i7s of the same generation: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8679/intel-haswellep-xeon-12-core-review-e5-2650l-v3-and-e5-2690-v3/4[/quote]
Didn't buy it for gaming m8. I am just saying it is FAR from a low end CPU.
Is it legit 240hz or a 144hz with some sort of technical gimmick?
Is it legit 240hz or a 144hz with some sort of technical gimmick?
bowswer5Is it legit 240hz or a 144hz with some sort of technical gimmick?
It's legitimate 240Hz. The only thing that has me scratching behind my ears is how they're going to do ULMB@240Hz(they said it's enabled) without getting significant crosstalk.
[quote=bowswer5]Is it legit 240hz or a 144hz with some sort of technical gimmick?[/quote]
It's legitimate 240Hz. The only thing that has me scratching behind my ears is how they're going to do ULMB@240Hz(they said it's enabled) without getting significant crosstalk.
ScrewballThe Xeon 2670-V3 is a $1,736 CPU m8
yeah and totally not made for game processes.. are you even using ecc rams? what for? finals = mission critical operation? LUL since you're commenting on a high performance gaming oriented monitor thread you can't talk of performance in tf2 / games by taking into account a xeon cpu.
ScrewballAverages mean nothing because when action happens (IE when you actually need high FPS) your FPS goes down by more than half. No point in a 240hz monitor when your FPS are dipping to 140 in fights.
yes, for an infinitesimal amount of time haha also i'm wondering where did you get that "a half". cpus work at GHz frequencies.. that's a 10^9 factor , that is 1.000^3, that is 1.000.000.000 that is 1 billion operations per unit time. so according to your thinking every time "action" or an operation gets computed "fps" or, more generally, performance drop by a half; are you suggesting that performance drop by a half hundreds of millions of times per cpu clock?
[quote=Screwball]The Xeon 2670-V3 is a $1,736 CPU m8[/quote]
yeah and totally not made for game processes.. are you even using ecc rams? what for? finals = mission critical operation? LUL since you're commenting on a high performance gaming oriented monitor thread you can't talk of performance in tf2 / games by taking into account a xeon cpu.
[quote=Screwball]Averages mean nothing because when action happens (IE when you actually need high FPS) your FPS goes down by more than half. No point in a 240hz monitor when your FPS are dipping to 140 in fights.
[/quote]
yes, for an infinitesimal amount of time haha also i'm wondering where did you get that "a half". cpus work at GHz frequencies.. that's a 10^9 factor , that is 1.000^3, that is 1.000.000.000 that is 1 billion operations per unit time. so according to your thinking every time "action" or an operation gets computed "fps" or, more generally, performance drop by a half; are you suggesting that performance drop by a half hundreds of millions of times per cpu clock?
meth0dScrewballThe Xeon 2670-V3 is a $1,736 CPU m8
yeah and totally not made for game processes.. are you even using ecc rams? what for? finals = mission critical operation? LUL since you're commenting on a high performance gaming oriented monitor thread you can't talk of performance in tf2 / games by taking into account a xeon cpu.
ScrewballAverages mean nothing because when action happens (IE when you actually need high FPS) your FPS goes down by more than half. No point in a 240hz monitor when your FPS are dipping to 140 in fights.
yes, for an infinitesimal amount of time haha also i'm wondering where did you get that "a half". cpus work at GHz frequencies.. that's a 10^9 factor , that is 1.000^3, that is 1.000.000.000 that is 1 billion operations per unit time. so according to your thinking every time "action" or an operation gets computed "fps" or, more generally, performance drop by a half; are you suggesting that performance drop by a half hundreds of millions of times per cpu clock?
Hes saying that half the time-so when you are in teamfights etc your frames will drop because you are in teamfights etc but that is when you need the extra frames so the only boost you would get is nice visuals on rollouts
[quote=meth0d][quote=Screwball]The Xeon 2670-V3 is a $1,736 CPU m8[/quote]
yeah and totally not made for game processes.. are you even using ecc rams? what for? finals = mission critical operation? LUL since you're commenting on a high performance gaming oriented monitor thread you can't talk of performance in tf2 / games by taking into account a xeon cpu.
[quote=Screwball]Averages mean nothing because when action happens (IE when you actually need high FPS) your FPS goes down by more than half. No point in a 240hz monitor when your FPS are dipping to 140 in fights.
[/quote]
yes, for an infinitesimal amount of time haha also i'm wondering where did you get that "a half". cpus work at GHz frequencies.. that's a 10^9 factor , that is 1.000^3, that is 1.000.000.000 that is 1 billion operations per unit time. so according to your thinking every time "action" or an operation gets computed "fps" or, more generally, performance drop by a half; are you suggesting that performance drop by a half hundreds of millions of times per cpu clock?[/quote]
Hes saying that half the time-so when you are in teamfights etc your frames will drop because you are in teamfights etc but that is when you need the extra frames so the only boost you would get is nice visuals on rollouts
meth0dyes, for an infinitesimal amount of time
That is not how it works.
meth0dcpus work at GHz frequencies.. that's a 10^9 factor , that is 1.000^3, that is 1.000.000.000 that is 1 billion operations per unit time.
That is not how it works.
meth0dare you suggesting that performance drop by a half hundreds of millions of times per cpu clock?
That is not how it works.
[quote=meth0d]yes, for an infinitesimal amount of time[/quote]
That is not how it works.
[quote=meth0d]cpus work at GHz frequencies.. that's a 10^9 factor , that is 1.000^3, that is 1.000.000.000 that is 1 billion operations per unit time.[/quote]
That is not how it works.
[quote=meth0d]are you suggesting that performance drop by a half hundreds of millions of times per cpu clock?[/quote]
That is not how it works.
SetsulThat is not how it works x3
i know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np
[quote=Setsul]
That is not how it works x3
[/quote]
i know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np
meth0di know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np
I can't get a stable 144fps with a 5930k at 5GHz and a 970 on a 12 man server, so either you're completely delusional, talking out of your ass, or both.
Eat shit.
[quote=meth0d]
i know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np[/quote]
I can't get a stable 144fps with a 5930k at 5GHz and a 970 on a 12 man server, so either you're completely delusional, talking out of your ass, or both.
Eat shit.
yttriummeth0di know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np
I can't get a stable 144fps with a 5930k at 5GHz and a 970 on a 12 man server, so either you're completely delusional, talking out of your ass, or both.
Eat shit.
Umm i know for sure that you should be getting a lot more than that, do you use a config? Im using a 6700K and a 960m and i get higher
[quote=yttrium][quote=meth0d]
i know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np[/quote]
I can't get a stable 144fps with a 5930k at 5GHz and a 970 on a 12 man server, so either you're completely delusional, talking out of your ass, or both.
Eat shit.[/quote]
Umm i know for sure that you should be getting a lot more than that, do you use a config? Im using a 6700K and a 960m and i get higher
VulcanUmm i know for sure that you should be getting a lot more than that, do you use a config? Im using a 6700K and a 960m and i get higher
Oh I can get higher when things aren't happening, but what I'm trying to say is a stable 144.
There is no fucking way someone is holding a 100% stable 240fps in a game with such shitty frame times and poor CPU utilization as TF2.
[quote=Vulcan]
Umm i know for sure that you should be getting a lot more than that, do you use a config? Im using a 6700K and a 960m and i get higher[/quote]
Oh I can get higher when things aren't happening, but what I'm trying to say is a [i]stable[/i] 144.
There is no fucking way someone is holding a 100% stable 240fps in a game with such shitty frame times and poor CPU utilization as TF2.
yttriummeth0di know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np
I can't get a stable 144fps with a 5930k at 5GHz and a 970 on a 12 man server, so either you're completely delusional, talking out of your ass, or both.
Eat shit.
This thread turned to shit, so much anecdotal evidence, or people completely talking out of there ass.
Also with a 4790k @4.7GHz in a 6v6 setting I never drop below 240fps in dx9. You're definitely doing something horribly wrong with your PC if you can't even get 144FPS in 6s with any i7 at 5GHz. Hell even an i5 I have a 4.4GHz can easily handle 200+ fps in Dx9 for 6s
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Just tested in a 24 person server, using fraps, dx9, 1920x1080, i7-4790k at 4.7GHz, GTX 1070, 10 minutes of game time in a full server on pl_badwater. Min: 205fps , Average: 403fps
I'm now fully convinced you have something set wrong if you can't get 144fps in 6s with a "5930k at 5GHz" hmm perhaps I should test with a max quality config
[quote=yttrium][quote=meth0d]
i know..i've never attempted to explain how processors work...the point was to show that it is very possible to run tf2 at about 240 fps with max video settings at 1920x1080 on a 32 men server with a stock 5820k. hence you can take advantage of a 240hz monitor in a 6v6 match np[/quote]
I can't get a stable 144fps with a 5930k at 5GHz and a 970 on a 12 man server, so either you're completely delusional, talking out of your ass, or both.
Eat shit.[/quote]
This thread turned to shit, so much anecdotal evidence, or people completely talking out of there ass.
Also with a 4790k @4.7GHz in a 6v6 setting I never drop below 240fps in dx9. You're definitely doing something horribly wrong with your PC if you can't even get 144FPS in 6s with any i7 at 5GHz. Hell even an i5 I have a 4.4GHz can easily handle 200+ fps in Dx9 for 6s
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Just tested in a 24 person server, using fraps, dx9, 1920x1080, i7-4790k at 4.7GHz, GTX 1070, 10 minutes of game time in a full server on pl_badwater. Min: 205fps , Average: 403fps
I'm now fully convinced you have something set wrong if you can't get 144fps in 6s with a "5930k at 5GHz" hmm perhaps I should test with a max quality config
^ .. today you learned too many scripts or commands running actually cripple tf2 performance and high average fps count is possible. i almost only run no gibs and ragdoll and a crosshair switcher and i'm just fine above 144 fps (capped). easily you can set up your game to run on a 240hz monitor if necessary. try to bench tf2 on a low end pc that can't take too much load, like a dual core laptop, you'll see high frame cfgs run worse than vanilla tf2 on lowest possible settings. tested this on my laptop:
vanilla tf2 on lowest video settings dx9: high 76 average 56 low 45
chris high frames cfg: high 30 average 20 low 13
both tests done @1366x768, 1 hour of playing, cp_dustbowl 24 men server.
i7 3537U dual core w/ HT @2ghz up to 3.10
nvidia GT 740m
^ .. today you learned too many scripts or commands running actually cripple tf2 performance and high average fps count is possible. i almost only run no gibs and ragdoll and a crosshair switcher and i'm just fine above 144 fps (capped). easily you can set up your game to run on a 240hz monitor if necessary. try to bench tf2 on a low end pc that can't take too much load, like a dual core laptop, you'll see high frame cfgs run worse than vanilla tf2 on lowest possible settings. tested this on my laptop:
vanilla tf2 on lowest video settings dx9: high 76 average 56 low 45
chris high frames cfg: high 30 average 20 low 13
both tests done @1366x768, 1 hour of playing, cp_dustbowl 24 men server.
i7 3537U dual core w/ HT @2ghz up to 3.10
nvidia GT 740m
Another update. For the lucky Australians out there you can pre-order this monitor for 899.99AUD https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=37863
899.99AUD = ~680USD / ~895CAD / ~635 Euro / ~550GBP
Considering most goods cost more in Australia than they do in NA / EU probably safe to say it would be a fair amount lower than that in your area.
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further confirming the price
Swiss https://www.steg-electronics.ch/de/article/Asus-ROG-Swift-PG258Q-20522026.aspxg 749.90 Swiss Franc (this is after VAT which I believe is roughly 20% which would put it around 599.92CHF = 596.16USD)
Euro https://nl.hardware.info/product/381414/asus-pg258q/reviews (supposedly available as low as 625 Euro)
Another update. For the lucky Australians out there you can pre-order this monitor for 899.99AUD https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=37863
899.99AUD = ~680USD / ~895CAD / ~635 Euro / ~550GBP
Considering most goods cost more in Australia than they do in NA / EU probably safe to say it would be a fair amount lower than that in your area.
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further confirming the price
Swiss https://www.steg-electronics.ch/de/article/Asus-ROG-Swift-PG258Q-20522026.aspxg 749.90 Swiss Franc (this is after VAT which I believe is roughly 20% which would put it around 599.92CHF = 596.16USD)
Euro https://nl.hardware.info/product/381414/asus-pg258q/reviews (supposedly available as low as 625 Euro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W3mKNSem5M