SetsulSwitzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?
Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.
[quote=Setsul]Switzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?[/quote]
Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.
remedyGizmowhymeobut at least white nationalism lost today
What is this cuckery?
2 sides of the same coin
god bless
whymeoAlmost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.
haha hello
[quote=remedy][quote=Gizmo][quote=whymeo]but at least white nationalism lost today[/quote]
What is this cuckery?[/quote]
2 sides of the same coin[/quote]
god bless
[quote=whymeo]
Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.[/quote]
haha hello
whymeoAlmost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.
arabs are often very white, you're thinking about religion not race.
[quote=whymeo]Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.[/quote]
arabs are often very white, you're thinking about religion not race.
haha its racist that french people are from france
haha its racist that french people are from france
whymeoAlmost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.
a point often not brought up is the hidden RACISM white people have by not immigrating out of their "native" (animales were probably there first) countries... if they were truly NOT racist they would be willing to leave their own country to live with other races..... but no... they just want to live with each other and be RASIST -.-
[quote=whymeo]Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.[/quote]
a point often not brought up is the hidden RACISM white people have by not immigrating out of their "native" (animales were probably there first) countries... if they were truly NOT racist they would be willing to leave their own country to live with other races..... but no... they just want to live with each other and be RASIST -.-
trippawhymeoAlmost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.
arabs are often very white, you're thinking about religion not race.
Arabs are not white.
[quote=trippa][quote=whymeo]Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.[/quote]
arabs are often very white, you're thinking about religion not race.[/quote]
Arabs are not white.
sopsArabs are not white.
at least according to wikipedia, "Today, the main unifying characteristic among Arabs is Arabic."
So if I'm reading that right, if you were caucasian but grew up in Egypt reading and writing Arabic as your first language, you would be considered an Arab.
Further down the article says "Although all Arab states have Arabic as an official language, there are many non-Arabic-speaking populations native to the Arab world. Among these are Berbers, Toubou, Nubians, Jews, Kurds, Armenians."
So it seems like being an Arab has to do with your native language, not necessarily your skin color or heritage.
[quote=sops]
Arabs are not white.[/quote]
at least according to wikipedia, "Today, the main unifying characteristic among Arabs is Arabic."
So if I'm reading that right, if you were caucasian but grew up in Egypt reading and writing Arabic as your first language, you would be considered an Arab.
Further down the article says "Although all Arab states have Arabic as an official language, there are many non-Arabic-speaking populations native to the Arab world. Among these are Berbers, Toubou, Nubians, Jews, Kurds, Armenians."
So it seems like being an Arab has to do with your native language, not necessarily your skin color or heritage.
Setsul#28
What the fuck is "white nationalism" even supposed to be? Are you confused because it sounds similar to racism or are you just trying to pull a connection to white supremacism out of your arse?
The USA are also predominantly white, does that mean their nationalism is also white nationalism? And how is white nationalism different from black nationalism? Is it relevant that it's white nationalism when Trump complains about Germany's trade surplus? Is it relevant when he wants to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out?
Switzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?
Or maybe you should learn to recognize the difference between nationalism, racism and xenophobia.
white nationalism does in fact exist
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/
https://bloodandsoil.org/
and idk if you just kinda close your eyes when you go to pol but its a pretty normal sentiment for people there to think that diversity in the form of "cultural marixism" (usually under the mask of anti-zionism) is a threat to white people, thus being white nationalism. just because sjw's exaggerate about it doesnt mean that it never happens (!)
[quote=Setsul]#28
What the fuck is "white nationalism" even supposed to be? Are you confused because it sounds similar to racism or are you just trying to pull a connection to white supremacism out of your arse?
The USA are also predominantly white, does that mean their nationalism is also white nationalism? And how is white nationalism different from black nationalism? Is it relevant that it's white nationalism when Trump complains about Germany's trade surplus? Is it relevant when he wants to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out?
Switzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?
Or maybe you should learn to recognize the difference between nationalism, racism and xenophobia.[/quote]
white nationalism does in fact exist
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/
https://bloodandsoil.org/
and idk if you just kinda close your eyes when you go to pol but its a pretty normal sentiment for people there to think that diversity in the form of "cultural marixism" (usually under the mask of anti-zionism) is a threat to white people, thus being white nationalism. just because sjw's exaggerate about it doesnt mean that it never happens (!)
SchweppesAlexandrosSchweppesAn 'independent outsider' endorsed by the current administration he was once part of and eventually by every single party no longer in the election
just doesn't sound very convincing, now does it?
He wasn't endorsed by the current administration, he didn't run under Hollande's banner. He worked for him, but was not endorsed by him.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39695686
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-25/hollande-urges-french-to-back-macron-reject-le-pen-in-election/8469150
http://www.politico.eu/article/le-pen-welcomes-hollandes-endorsement-of-macron-french-elections-marine-le-pen-emmanuel-macron-francois-hollande/
3 links from first page of literally googling it
a guy who worked for Hollande starting his 'own movement' is simply a rebrand due to Hollande's awful approval rating, nothing more. You're a fool if you think he will be any different
https://media.giphy.com/media/C6JQPEUsZUyVq/giphy.gif
So he's a new Hollande because Hollande endorsed him? By that logic, he's a new every other politician in France, as they all endorsed him against LePen. I should have been more specific before, you are completely correct in saying that he was endorsed by Hollande in the second round. But in the first round, where sides are chosen for each individual, he was not.
[quote=Schweppes][quote=Alexandros][quote=Schweppes]An 'independent outsider' endorsed by the current administration he was once part of and eventually by every single party no longer in the election
just doesn't sound very convincing, now does it?[/quote]
He wasn't endorsed by the current administration, he didn't run under Hollande's banner. He worked for him, but was not endorsed by him.[/quote]
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39695686
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-25/hollande-urges-french-to-back-macron-reject-le-pen-in-election/8469150
http://www.politico.eu/article/le-pen-welcomes-hollandes-endorsement-of-macron-french-elections-marine-le-pen-emmanuel-macron-francois-hollande/
3 links from first page of literally googling it
a guy who worked for Hollande starting his 'own movement' is simply a rebrand due to Hollande's awful approval rating, nothing more. You're a fool if you think he will be any different
[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/C6JQPEUsZUyVq/giphy.gif[/img][/quote]
So he's a new Hollande because Hollande endorsed him? By that logic, he's a new every other politician in France, as they all endorsed him against LePen. I should have been more specific before, you are completely correct in saying that he was endorsed by Hollande in the second round. But in the first round, where sides are chosen for each individual, he was not.
even if merkel is secretly the shadow leader behind macron (xd my guys) wheres the problem? shes pretty good at her job lOl
even if merkel is secretly the shadow leader behind macron (xd my guys) wheres the problem? shes pretty good at her job lOl
whymeoSetsulSwitzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?
Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.
>50%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_immigration_referendum,_February_2014
Yeah, that's almost no one.
remedySetsul#28
What the fuck is "white nationalism" even supposed to be? Are you confused because it sounds similar to racism or are you just trying to pull a connection to white supremacism out of your arse?
The USA are also predominantly white, does that mean their nationalism is also white nationalism? And how is white nationalism different from black nationalism? Is it relevant that it's white nationalism when Trump complains about Germany's trade surplus? Is it relevant when he wants to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out?
Switzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?
Or maybe you should learn to recognize the difference between nationalism, racism and xenophobia.
white nationalism does in fact exist
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/
https://bloodandsoil.org/
and idk if you just kinda close your eyes when you go to pol but its a pretty normal sentiment for people there to think that diversity in the form of "cultural marixism" (usually under the mask of anti-zionism) is a threat to white people, thus being white nationalism. just because sjw's exaggerate about it doesnt mean that it never happens (!)
I'm just going to ignore blood and soil, but stormfront is a gold mine.
Q. What is White Nationalism?
A. The idea that Whites may need to create a separate nation as a means of defending themselves.
That's their own definition.
In what world does Le Pen fit that definition?
The math of "Le Pen = white + nationalist = white nationalist" does not check out.
But let's see where the rabbit hole leads us.
Q. If life in America is so bad for Whites why don't you just move back to Europe?
A. We are a majority. We do not have to move back. We can resolve to defend ourselves against this onslaught. We
have the option of peacefully ceding lands already inhabited by non-Whites to separate non-White nations. We would
save money, and could restore our civil liberties and free ourselves from constant threats of violence by so doing.
That's some manifest destiny shit at best. I don't even want to draw comparisions to any others who have tried to achieve "ethnic homogenization" by moving different ethnities to different locations.
Q. What would your separate state look like?
A. The truth is we don't know yet. Our separate state would follow the geographic outlines of White flight. The
model for this state would be the modern gerrymander created by the Voting Rights Act to create majority non-White
congressional districts. We would simply cede these to a separate nation. The mechanics of this process will be
explained more fully later in a post entitled "sweating the details."
That's full on ghettos. Except now they are actually a different state so you can legally lock them in there by simply not approving visa. Holy shit.
Also the economic repercussions. One of their complaints is the whole "Burdensome racial preference schemes in hiring" so I can't imagine they'll hand over silicon valley etc. Yes, let's create a nation with no economy for the non whites. Seems fair.
Q. Exploitation? This is rich! So how is it that Whites are exploited?
A. It is a long list. Burdensome racial preference schemes in hiring, racial preference schemes in university
admissions, racial preference schemes in government contracting and small business loans. Beyond quotas there is
the denial of rights of free speech and of due process to Whites who are critical of these governmental policies.
We have special punishments for assaults committed by Whites if the motives might be racial. In addition, Whites
pay a proportion of the costs of the welfare state that is disproportionate to what they receive in benefits.
Did they just do that? Do they not know how welfare works? Those who have more pay more and those who have less recieve more.
They literally turned "disproportionally higher income" into "help we're being repressed". What the actual fuck?
Q. Would all Whites be welcome in your separate state?
A. Absolutely. There would be no restriction by country of origin, and no genetic tests, skin color or hair color
tests or any nonsense like that. The only restriction would be that those who would wish to recreate the present
system by importing non-Whites and then encouraging their hostility would not be welcome. They would have to remain
in or move to the lands ceded to the non-Whites.
Gee, I wonder why they have to mention that first part?
"importing non-Whites" = hostility
Remember what "importing non-Whites" used to be called?
Q. You are proposing that inclusion and exclusion be based on ideology and feelings. Won't your act of nation
splitting turn into a witch hunt?
A. For White liberals it is definitely going to feel like a witch hunt! When the time comes, those who are guilty
of "integrationism" should do the sensible thing and flee. It will spare us all a lot of pain.
Ah yes, good old cleansing based on political alignment. Can't imagine any way that could go wrong.
Bonus points: Guess what the signature of the account that posted this "FAQ" is?
A confederate flag.
Come on, now you're making it too easy.
In summary: In what world does this "it's not white supremacism and it's not racism because we're not trying to kill or opress them, we're even giving them their own state" bullshit related to Le Pen?
[quote=whymeo][quote=Setsul]Switzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?[/quote]
Almost no one in these countries, or any western nationalist party, is particularly concerned about immigration from predominantly white countries and you are well aware of this.[/quote]
>50%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_immigration_referendum,_February_2014
Yeah, that's almost no one.
[quote=remedy][quote=Setsul]#28
What the fuck is "white nationalism" even supposed to be? Are you confused because it sounds similar to racism or are you just trying to pull a connection to white supremacism out of your arse?
The USA are also predominantly white, does that mean their nationalism is also white nationalism? And how is white nationalism different from black nationalism? Is it relevant that it's white nationalism when Trump complains about Germany's trade surplus? Is it relevant when he wants to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out?
Switzerland seems pretty white. Does that mean voting against immigration from EU states is white nationalism?
Or maybe you should learn to recognize the difference between nationalism, racism and xenophobia.[/quote]
white nationalism does in fact exist
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/
https://bloodandsoil.org/
and idk if you just kinda close your eyes when you go to pol but its a pretty normal sentiment for people there to think that diversity in the form of "cultural marixism" (usually under the mask of anti-zionism) is a threat to white people, thus being white nationalism. just because sjw's exaggerate about it doesnt mean that it never happens (!)[/quote]
I'm just going to ignore blood and soil, but stormfront is a gold mine.
[quote]
Q. What is White Nationalism?
A. The idea that Whites may need to create a separate nation as a means of defending themselves.[/quote]
That's their own definition.
In what world does Le Pen fit that definition?
The math of "Le Pen = white + nationalist = white nationalist" does not check out.
But let's see where the rabbit hole leads us.
[quote]Q. If life in America is so bad for Whites why don't you just move back to Europe?
A. We are a majority. We do not have to move back. We can resolve to defend ourselves against this onslaught. We
have the option of peacefully ceding lands already inhabited by non-Whites to separate non-White nations. We would
save money, and could restore our civil liberties and free ourselves from constant threats of violence by so doing.[/quote]
That's some manifest destiny shit at best. I don't even want to draw comparisions to any others who have tried to achieve "ethnic homogenization" by moving different ethnities to different locations.
[quote]Q. What would your separate state look like?
A. The truth is we don't know yet. Our separate state would follow the geographic outlines of White flight. The
model for this state would be the modern gerrymander created by the Voting Rights Act to create majority non-White
congressional districts. We would simply cede these to a separate nation. The mechanics of this process will be
explained more fully later in a post entitled "sweating the details."[/quote]
That's full on ghettos. Except now they are actually a different state so you can legally lock them in there by simply not approving visa. Holy shit.
Also the economic repercussions. One of their complaints is the whole "Burdensome racial preference schemes in hiring" so I can't imagine they'll hand over silicon valley etc. Yes, let's create a nation with no economy for the non whites. Seems fair.
[quote]Q. Exploitation? This is rich! So how is it that Whites are exploited?
A. It is a long list. Burdensome racial preference schemes in hiring, racial preference schemes in university
admissions, racial preference schemes in government contracting and small business loans. Beyond quotas there is
the denial of rights of free speech and of due process to Whites who are critical of these governmental policies.
We have special punishments for assaults committed by Whites if the motives might be racial. In addition, [u]Whites
pay a proportion of the costs of the welfare state that is disproportionate to what they receive in benefits.[/u][/quote]
Did they just do that? Do they not know how welfare works? Those who have more pay more and those who have less recieve more.
They literally turned "disproportionally higher income" into "help we're being repressed". What the actual fuck?
[quote]Q. Would all Whites be welcome in your separate state?
A. Absolutely. There would be no restriction by country of origin, and no genetic tests, skin color or hair color
tests or any nonsense like that. The only restriction would be that those who would wish to recreate the present
system by importing non-Whites and then encouraging their hostility would not be welcome. They would have to remain
in or move to the lands ceded to the non-Whites.[/quote]
Gee, I wonder why they have to mention that first part?
"importing non-Whites" = hostility
Remember what "importing non-Whites" used to be called?
[quote]Q. You are proposing that inclusion and exclusion be based on ideology and feelings. Won't your act of nation
splitting turn into a witch hunt?
A. For White liberals it is definitely going to feel like a witch hunt! When the time comes, those who are guilty
of "integrationism" should do the sensible thing and flee. It will spare us all a lot of pain.[/quote]
Ah yes, good old cleansing based on political alignment. Can't imagine any way that could go wrong.
Bonus points: Guess what the signature of the account that posted this "FAQ" is?
A confederate flag.
Come on, now you're making it too easy.
In summary: In what world does this "it's not white supremacism and it's not racism because we're not trying to kill or opress them, we're even giving them their own state" bullshit related to Le Pen?
Other's have already pointed this out, but just wanted to state.
Being a Nationalist in a European country is almost certainly going to mean you're white and supporting people native to your homeland aka other white people with very little exception.
So saying "White Nationalist" or talking about "White Nationalism" in the majority of European countries is just simply being redundant at best.
Other's have already pointed this out, but just wanted to state.
Being a Nationalist in a European country is almost certainly going to mean you're white and supporting people native to your homeland aka other white people with very little exception.
So saying "White Nationalist" or talking about "White Nationalism" in the majority of European countries is just simply being redundant at best.
Nationalism is about nations, not races.
What these people are doing is the most hilarious attempt at rebranding.
I mean come on, the definition was posted by "Jack Boot" on a website called "stormfront" founded by a KKK Grand Wizard. We've got the usual "anyone who disagrees with me is wrong" in the "remove libtards" variation and the usual "they took er jerbs".
If that doesn't get you the classic trifecta of fascism, authoritarianism and racism/xenophobia then I don't know what does.
They didn't want to straight up call it "national socialism" and socialism is evil in the USA anyway and the KKK loves anything with "white" so they call it "white nationalism".
It's about as nationalist as Stalin was socialist.
If whymeo actually got the idea that this somehow means that any nationalist who happens to be white is a "white nationalist" then I hope he never needs to pass any exam that requires basic logic.
Either whymeo just added the most useless and redundant modifier to nationalism and fell into the pit that is political misappropriation of terms (like calling someone who is a bit to the left in terms of economic views politically but also patriotic a "national socialist") or he actually claims Le Pen would get along nicely with the KKK.
But really, even if it's just adding "white" because Le Pen is indeed white, it's still retarded. It's still like calling chinese nationalism "rice-based nationalism". That's just correlation, not causation.
Not even commenting on remedy because I still hope
remedy[...]
and idk if you just kinda close your eyes when you go to pol [...]
doesn't mean what I think it means.
Nationalism is about nations, not races.
What these people are doing is the most hilarious attempt at rebranding.
I mean come on, the definition was posted by "Jack Boot" on a website called "stormfront" founded by a KKK Grand Wizard. We've got the usual "anyone who disagrees with me is wrong" in the "remove libtards" variation and the usual "they took er jerbs".
If that doesn't get you the classic trifecta of fascism, authoritarianism and racism/xenophobia then I don't know what does.
They didn't want to straight up call it "national socialism" and socialism is evil in the USA anyway and the KKK loves anything with "white" so they call it "white nationalism".
It's about as nationalist as Stalin was socialist.
If whymeo actually got the idea that this somehow means that any nationalist who happens to be white is a "white nationalist" then I hope he never needs to pass any exam that requires basic logic.
Either whymeo just added the most useless and redundant modifier to nationalism and fell into the pit that is political misappropriation of terms (like calling someone who is a bit to the left in terms of economic views politically but also patriotic a "national socialist") or he actually claims Le Pen would get along nicely with the KKK.
But really, even if it's just adding "white" because Le Pen is indeed white, it's still retarded. It's still like calling chinese nationalism "rice-based nationalism". That's just correlation, not causation.
Not even commenting on remedy because I still hope
[quote=remedy][...]
and idk if you just kinda close your eyes when you go to pol [...][/quote]
doesn't mean what I think it means.
a german ranting on nationalism? lock this nazi up
a german ranting on nationalism? lock this nazi up
The only solution is to have whyme and I talk about this in mumble before our team scrims tonight
The only solution is to have whyme and I talk about this in mumble before our team scrims tonight
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old white men voting to keep a woman out of power just like the USA smh
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old white men voting to keep a woman out of power just like the USA smh
And so it begins.
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GizmoAnd so it begins.
wow, easier on me with all the politics please
http://i.imgur.com/c1pRUnU.jpg
[quote=Gizmo]And so it begins.[/quote]
wow, easier on me with all the politics please
[img]http://i.imgur.com/c1pRUnU.jpg[/img]
loothttp://i.imgur.com/zhqjx6j.jpg
old white men voting to keep a woman out of power just like the USA smh
"65 ans et plus"
probably macron's lovers
[quote=loot][img]http://i.imgur.com/zhqjx6j.jpg[/img]
old white men voting to keep a woman out of power just like the USA smh[/quote]
"65 ans et plus"
probably macron's lovers
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unfortunately news outlets are now using populism as a synonym for racism and bigotry, making the assumption that these are the concerns of the common man.
not that i really like the anti-immigration wave of opinion, but it feels like the term populism has lost its meaning.
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unfortunately news outlets are now using populism as a synonym for racism and bigotry, making the assumption that these are the concerns of the common man.
not that i really like the anti-immigration wave of opinion, but it feels like the term populism has lost its meaning.
SitngusFrance, thanks for being useful during ww2. Poland won against Germany and communism and now you decided with Germany to destroy Poland? we got fucked after ww2 my country is still Fucking blind. We have cheapest workers in eu. Our economy is ruined by you. You made us to be addicted to you. We can't grow up because of you. I think you got what you deserve. Islam is killing you really quick.
yes please explain to me, a 17 y/o high school student, why i am responsible for the current economic state of your country and also why innocent people deserve to get bombed
[quote=Sitngus]France, thanks for being useful during ww2. Poland won against Germany and communism and now you decided with Germany to destroy Poland? we got fucked after ww2 my country is still Fucking blind. We have cheapest workers in eu. Our economy is ruined by you. You made us to be addicted to you. We can't grow up because of you. I think you got what you deserve. Islam is killing you really quick.[/quote]
yes please explain to me, a 17 y/o high school student, why i am responsible for the current economic state of your country and also why innocent people deserve to get bombed
FUN FACT:
He met his wife at age 15. She was his teacher, 24 years older.
FUN FACT:
He met his wife at age 15. She was his teacher, 24 years older.