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PugChamp
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931
#931
6 Frags +
erynnShould have specified I sent a message last week.... . Just waiting to hear back if the slots can be increased.

Add me on Steam, I'm not around often enough on the forums for it to be a reliable form of communication.

[quote=erynn]Should have specified I sent a message last week.... . Just waiting to hear back if the slots can be increased.[/quote]
Add me on Steam, I'm not around often enough on the forums for it to be a reliable form of communication.
932
#932
3 Frags +
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Discord: I heard that erynn is working things out with you, when do you think pugchamp will get the new servers?
Fog#1516: I think he's of the impression that I'd convert them to 12 slots
Fog#1516: instead of having them be DM servers under his control
Discord: oh
Discord: would you?
Fog#1516: then there wouldn't be any more DM servers
Discord: Couldn't you convert a few of them?
Fog#1516: maybe
Discord: You have five of them, right?
Fog#1516: 6
Discord: six
Fog#1516: I'll probably drop two of them
Fog#1516: as I don't see anyone using them
Discord: drop them for pugchamp or just kill them?
Fog#1516: depends
Discord: because if you give just one or two to pugchamp and convert them into twelve player servers then the comp community would be extremely grateful
Discord: Is it hard to convert them into 12 player servers?
Fog#1516: I'd have to change them through my hosting provider
Discord: Does that take a while?
Fog#1516: not really, no
Discord: Do you have any problems with giving them to pugchamp? Do you want compensation?
Fog#1516: by the sounds of it compenstation isn't an option
Fog#1516: I'll convert them to 12 slots if they need it
Discord: Could you convert them to 12 slots right now and give one or two servers to erynn? Because from what she says, it seems like she thinks she needs to negotiate with you to get the servers.
Fog#1516: yeah I'll do it right now
Fog#1516: they can also add me on Steam
Fog#1516: much easier than going back and forth on the forums
Discord: That's awesome
Fog#1516: ok converting them is not something easily done
Discord: oh
Fog#1516: I'll just buy new ones
Discord: ok
Discord: Do you mind if I post this conversation on the forums?
Fog#1516: sure, idc
Discord: thanks, you're the best

I've been waiting for a few weeks for pugchamp to get servers from fog so I contacted him again.

Seems like Fog's going to buy servers and give them to pugchamp because converting the servers apparently isn't the easiest. He also wants pugchamp admins to add him so that communication can be easier. I do think pugchamp admin's communication isn't the best. because I've heard of people offering servers and not getting a response, but maybe they just aren't directed properly since I've heard not to contact tsc or erynn through emails but through nursey and jarrett.

Thanks Fog!

EDIT: I got sniped by fog

[spoiler]Discord: I heard that erynn is working things out with you, when do you think pugchamp will get the new servers?
Fog#1516: I think he's of the impression that I'd convert them to 12 slots
Fog#1516: instead of having them be DM servers under his control
Discord: oh
Discord: would you?
Fog#1516: then there wouldn't be any more DM servers
Discord: Couldn't you convert a few of them?
Fog#1516: maybe
Discord: You have five of them, right?
Fog#1516: 6
Discord: six
Fog#1516: I'll probably drop two of them
Fog#1516: as I don't see anyone using them
Discord: drop them for pugchamp or just kill them?
Fog#1516: depends
Discord: because if you give just one or two to pugchamp and convert them into twelve player servers then the comp community would be extremely grateful
Discord: Is it hard to convert them into 12 player servers?
Fog#1516: I'd have to change them through my hosting provider
Discord: Does that take a while?
Fog#1516: not really, no
Discord: Do you have any problems with giving them to pugchamp? Do you want compensation?
Fog#1516: by the sounds of it compenstation isn't an option
Fog#1516: I'll convert them to 12 slots if they need it
Discord: Could you convert them to 12 slots right now and give one or two servers to erynn? Because from what she says, it seems like she thinks she needs to negotiate with you to get the servers.
Fog#1516: yeah I'll do it right now
Fog#1516: they can also add me on Steam
Fog#1516: much easier than going back and forth on the forums
Discord: That's awesome
Fog#1516: ok converting them is not something easily done
Discord: oh
Fog#1516: I'll just buy new ones
Discord: ok
Discord: Do you mind if I post this conversation on the forums?
Fog#1516: sure, idc
Discord: thanks, you're the best
[/spoiler]
I've been waiting for a few weeks for pugchamp to get servers from fog so I contacted him again.

Seems like Fog's going to buy servers and give them to pugchamp because converting the servers apparently isn't the easiest. He also wants pugchamp admins to add him so that communication can be easier. I do think pugchamp admin's communication isn't the best. because I've heard of people offering servers and not getting a response, but maybe they just aren't directed properly since I've heard not to contact tsc or erynn through emails but through nursey and jarrett.

Thanks Fog!

EDIT: I got sniped by fog
933
#933
1 Frags +
erynn
Should have specified I sent a message last week.... . Just waiting to hear back if the slots can be increased.

Sorry, communication error. Fog didn't check tf.tv.

[quote=erynn]

Should have specified I sent a message last week.... . Just waiting to hear back if the slots can be increased.[/quote]
Sorry, communication error. Fog didn't check tf.tv.
934
#934
8 Frags +

please add ability to local mute autismos from chat

please add ability to local mute [url=http://i.imgur.com/llSGY2P.png]autismos[/url] from chat
935
#935
0 Frags +

eu2 server is dead someone fix pls
https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/59b16064a0fd2369018f2160

eu2 server is dead someone fix pls
https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/59b16064a0fd2369018f2160
936
#936
3 Frags +

I've been constantly getting disconnected from Pugchamp today for some reason

Like literally every time I press reconnect it disconnects again

Anyone know what the issue is?

I've been constantly getting disconnected from Pugchamp today for some reason

Like literally every time I press reconnect it disconnects again

Anyone know what the issue is?
937
#937
2 Frags +

yo chrome is telling me the site is unsafe, and when I proceed I'm just getting the brown background and no text, and even if I refresh a billion times I get the sidebar with players/games/home/etc. but no main text

yo chrome is telling me the site is unsafe, and when I proceed I'm just getting the brown background and no text, and even if I refresh a billion times I get the sidebar with players/games/home/etc. but no main text
938
#938
3 Frags +

http://imgur.com/a/2QYlZ

pugchamp machine :b:roke

also why is this mysterious hacker pug.champ trying to steal my credit cards :(

http://imgur.com/a/2QYlZ

pugchamp machine :b:roke

also why is this mysterious hacker pug.champ trying to steal my credit cards :(
939
#939
2 Frags +

I'm getting the same message as mustard and Gritoma for some reason

I'm getting the same message as mustard and Gritoma for some reason
940
#940
3 Frags +
KonceptI'm getting the same message as mustard and Gritoma for some reason

other people told me they were getting it but if they hit "proceed to unsafe site" it would work as usual

but it aint for me :\

[quote=Koncept]I'm getting the same message as mustard and Gritoma for some reason[/quote]

other people told me they were getting it but if they hit "proceed to unsafe site" it would work as usual

but it aint for me :\
941
#941
ChampGG
3 Frags +

I am a big noob. I fixed it but if it shows up again just proceed to the site...

Probably will happen again in 6 months.

I am a big noob. I fixed it but if it shows up again just proceed to the site...

Probably will happen again in 6 months.
942
#942
2 Frags +

still says im disconnected from the server

still says im disconnected from the server
943
#943
2 Frags +

yeah i cant get on

yeah i cant get on
944
#944
ChampGG
6 Frags +

Should be ok? you may need to hard reload the page

Should be ok? you may need to hard reload the page
945
#945
1 Frags +

it's fixed thanks a lot

it's fixed thanks a lot
946
#946
2 Frags +

Erynn, thanks for setting up fog's server! Now we have four servers, and we're going to use all four in a few mins, which is really cool.

Thanks fog for buying a 12-player server and handing it over to pugchamp for no compensation. You're the best. Thanks for allowing me to rope you into helping pugchamp, this surely will benefit the competitive community.

Erynn, thanks for setting up fog's server! Now we have four servers, and we're going to use all four in a few mins, which is really cool.

Thanks fog for buying a 12-player server and handing it over to pugchamp for no compensation. You're the best. Thanks for allowing me to rope you into helping pugchamp, this surely will benefit the competitive community.
947
#947
2 Frags +

eu4 has a 5cp config in KOTH so it didnt end after 3 points and we cant add up to a new game
https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/59b6ea8f7934a9454c4a3aa1
edit: actually not even after 5 poibts does it end :\

suggestoin: give captains a "request close" button for when server problems happen

eu4 has a 5cp config in KOTH so it didnt end after 3 points and we cant add up to a new game
https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/59b6ea8f7934a9454c4a3aa1
edit: actually not even after 5 poibts does it end :\

suggestoin: give captains a "request close" button for when server problems happen
948
#948
4 Frags +

NA-4 is fucked right now so if your pug gets that server, message an admin to move the pug to a different server

NA-4 is fucked right now so if your pug gets that server, message an admin to move the pug to a different server
949
#949
refresh.tf
8 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/KMVNPZc.png

So, apparently I got banned from EU PugChamp for "excessive offclassing". This is in theory fair, but I think what I did was more against the letter of the law rather than the spirit.
http://logs.tf/1842256#76561198058513958

Tried hard during entire pug, only offclassed to sniper, didn't refuse to switch off it or anything. Not to mention, having your scout on sniper on product is an entirely valid strategy which is also sometimes used at the top level of tf2.

And yes, also to be fair I wasn't aware there was an exact percentage (33%? I had 35% sniper played. Too strict enforcement of the rules imo) of minutes you can't go on offclass or getting banned, which is also my fault, but reading the rules isn't very easy: https://imgur.com/a/G5J8f

Furthermore, I got banned by the very same player (who is also an admin) who got very upset that I killed him.

PugChamp EU AdminFUCK OFF MAN. cant have a nice pug. i really hope u go over 33%.

Considering this is what was said about me, I think it's safe to say these reasons are personal, and not due to me not following the rules.

I think it's better to crack down on offclassers with ill intent rather than the ones who are trying their hardest to win the game.

In conclusion: Don't crack down on players using valid strategies to win. Would you please unban me?

[img]https://i.imgur.com/KMVNPZc.png[/img]
So, apparently I got banned from EU PugChamp for "excessive offclassing". This is in theory fair, but I think what I did was more against the letter of the law rather than the spirit.
http://logs.tf/1842256#76561198058513958

Tried hard during entire pug, only offclassed to sniper, didn't refuse to switch off it or anything. Not to mention, having your scout on sniper on product is an entirely valid strategy which is also sometimes used at the top level of tf2.

And yes, also to be fair I wasn't aware there was an exact percentage (33%? I had 35% sniper played. Too strict enforcement of the rules imo) of minutes you can't go on offclass or getting banned, which is also my fault, but reading the rules isn't very easy: https://imgur.com/a/G5J8f

Furthermore, I got banned by the very same player (who is also an admin) who got very upset that I killed him.
[quote=PugChamp EU Admin]FUCK OFF MAN. cant have a nice pug. i really hope u go over 33%.[/quote]
Considering this is what was said about me, I think it's safe to say these reasons are personal, and not due to me not following the rules.

I think it's better to crack down on offclassers with ill intent rather than the ones who are trying their hardest to win the game.

In conclusion: Don't crack down on players using valid strategies to win. Would you please unban me?
950
#950
2 Frags +

playing against snipers in pugs in general is aids, it might be used a lot in high level but teams have actual coordination that make it way easier to deal with a sniper than a pug team. so you're ruining the game for 6 gamers :)

playing against snipers in pugs in general is aids, it might be used a lot in high level but teams have actual coordination that make it way easier to deal with a sniper than a pug team. so you're ruining the game for 6 gamers :)
951
#951
0 Frags +

this man is making prolands, give him a break

this man is making prolands, give him a break
952
#952
5 Frags +

#sniperlivesmatter do not oppress sniper players especially on product

#sniperlivesmatter do not oppress sniper players especially on product
953
#953
11 Frags +

What Kind Of Sick Human Being Would Excessively Offclass In Pugchamp
I Will Put A Stop To This

What Kind Of Sick Human Being Would Excessively Offclass In Pugchamp
I Will Put A Stop To This
954
#954
6 Frags +

Collaide why keep Krafty anonymous if you're gonna link the logs anyway :thinking:

Collaide why keep Krafty anonymous if you're gonna link the logs anyway :thinking:
955
#955
refresh.tf
5 Frags +
georgebaiiCollaide why keep Krafty anonymous if you're gonna link the logs anyway :thinking:

Because I don't want to directly call him out

EDIT:

Sleshso you're ruining the game for 6 gamers :)

Are you joking right now?

[quote=georgebaii]Collaide why keep Krafty anonymous if you're gonna link the logs anyway :thinking:[/quote]
Because I don't want to directly call him out

EDIT:
[quote=Slesh]so you're ruining the game for 6 gamers :)[/quote]
Are you joking right now?
956
#956
3 Frags +

Krafty is poopoo face when it comes to sniper remove admin rights :thinking:

Krafty is poopoo face when it comes to sniper remove admin rights :thinking:
957
#957
2 Frags +

here's an idea, don't play 10mins of sniper then cry when you get banned for offclassing, even if your ego might take a hit if you don't cry about it =/

here's an idea, don't play 10mins of sniper then cry when you get banned for offclassing, even if your ego might take a hit if you don't cry about it =/
958
#958
refresh.tf
0 Frags +
Spritehere's an idea, don't play 10mins of sniper then cry when you get banned for offclassing, even if your ego might take a hit if you don't cry about it =/

is this a shitpost

[quote=Sprite]here's an idea, don't play 10mins of sniper then cry when you get banned for offclassing, even if your ego might take a hit if you don't cry about it =/[/quote]
is this a shitpost
959
#959
-5 Frags +
CollaideSpritehere's an idea, don't play 10mins of sniper then cry when you get banned for offclassing, even if your ego might take a hit if you don't cry about it =/is this a shitpost

if it helps :)

[quote=Collaide][quote=Sprite]here's an idea, don't play 10mins of sniper then cry when you get banned for offclassing, even if your ego might take a hit if you don't cry about it =/[/quote]
is this a shitpost[/quote]

if it helps :)
960
#960
4 Frags +
Dyl4NI've had a few times now where my pugchamp server died and there were no admins to kill it for 1-2 hours, can we please just give admin to another person who pugs a lot in NA?

NA also still has very little admins that play on the site a lot, I wouldn't mind a couple new admins that play a good amount.

[quote=Dyl4N]I've had a few times now where my pugchamp server died and there were no admins to kill it for 1-2 hours, can we please just give admin to another person who pugs a lot in NA?[/quote]

NA also still has very little admins that play on the site a lot, I wouldn't mind a couple new admins that play a good amount.
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