Hypnotized...

where's koncept on this list.

The ESEA oriented side of the community is very insular so it's not at all surprising that one person wouldn't be aware of UGC admins or Etf2l. I'm certainly not (and I was one of them once). I really only remember 3 admins from my time there, and I can name possibly one etf2l admin because he is a meme. Naming ESEA admins is easier because we've only really ever had 3 - excepting the first 8 seasons or so lol.

"What is your opinion about this list?"

- "It is incredibly flawed."

"Shut up, of course it is flawed, it is just one guy's opinion!" :thinking:

Huds would be weird. Do you give it to people like rays who made arguably the most popular hud ever but hasn't played tf2 in years? People like hypnotize who do a great service but not really their own stuff, people like colly who hardly releases anything but is widely recognized, or people like me (was gonna say wiethoofd but he's already on the list) who contributed a lot to the technical side of huds but didn't make the best actual huds? The whole hud scene has a lot of deserving areas, and I'd love to see people get community weapons (hud devs put in their effort to the community for nothing in return and that's exactly who should get community weapons), but realistically there's too much different people who could be given one.

What I would like to see is comanglia getting on the list, comanglia's cfg was standard for competitive and pubbers with bad computers for years.

Who do you think is deserving of a community weapon then? Should save a lot of headache for everyone.

oops my bad I missed it

Also, Miggy deserves to be in this particular list.

Really?

uberchain was the SFM artist for ESEA S18 LAN (I think?), Insomnia 55 and 58, in case you missed putting those in.

Where is MB? Where are the ETF2L head admins? smh

Point is the OP asked for thoughts on the lists I said I think its circlejerk bullshit from a less than reputable person among a certain circle of TF2 communities.

May not be a popuar opinion here but those who agree with me are smart enough not to post here.

Yup I am. Read between the lines here, BlackOut Jon is nominated for TFTV streaming only, no UGC admin nomimations, nobody from BlackOut TV, no organiser of two DeutschLANs, no ETF2L admins apart from one ex head admin.

OP asked for an opinion on the list I am saying my opinion is its circlejerk bullshit from a man with a massive agenda against a gamemode. I am prepared to be wrong about things and happy for people to get mad at me and call me names but its pretty fucked up from my point of view that this one guy is so against a gamemode which he knows has many good contributors he can't even mention that Jon has solely ran BlackOut TV for 5 years but can point out he has streamed some TFTV games.

If you didnt want my opinion on the list dont post a public thread.

See what you've done TurboTabs? And all for a list that Valve will never even read let alone act on. Can't people wait until Festivus for the airing of grievances?

Thank you, but I already have a sparkly scattergun.

Lots of great people on the list, I didn't see Anakin yet, so I'll nominate him.

Dance puppets! Dance! Muhahahahaha

Arie

maybe degu for tftv broadcasting (and also organizing a lot of stuff for the czech community)

I know casters put a lot of effort in, but I feel there are too many casters in this list. The only casters that I feel should be put on there are really prolific ones or have been doing it for years and years.

Also yeah put Arie on here immediately.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960497430/

And Hildreth, post some nominees yourself to help with this list instead of complaining. One man can't name all the huge names in TF2.

I don't think it's anything malicious. Omni is only mentioned for making the tftv / toth huds even though making huds.tf was a far bigger contribution to the community at large, as another example, and I don't think tsc has anything against the hud community. Whatever you got against the guy personally, I'd give tsc the benefit of the doubt that he genuinely wants to make a complete list but just doesn't personally know outside communities.

Saying "this is a circlejerk fuck this" isn't really helping much. No one can argue against "these people also did a lot of great things and are deserving of a nomination" like you did with blackout jon. If you do that and tsc says "nah I don't like hl" then I'd happily swap sides and agree with you, but as someone removed from whatever drama it seems like you just starting shit.

ma3la looks so hot in that picture holy shti

Hanlon's razor.

To me, community items shouldn't be handed out to anyway that's had anything to do with TF2 beyond playing and watching it, like this list seems to suggest. People related to leagues such as Sonny Black, Permzilla, tri, Fornaught, or people related to the development of tools that are now common place in tf2, i.e bluee, zoob, F2, GentlemanJon, to name some examples. This is what community weapons have been given out for in the past, i.e enigma (tf.tv), Arie (fakkelbrigade, serveme, VanillaTV), Lange (Node and all the plugins he developed idk). They created media that has benefited TF2's community on a large, public scale. That is why league admins, plugin developers, etc, should be on this list, not commentators, minuscule charities, and producers, regardless of how much effort they put in or not.

Think of it like a Nobel Prize for TF2; contributions to global subjects will be made all the time in the world, but Nobel Prizes are awarded to those who make the greatest and most important contributions and innovations in said subject. Will a person commentating the game, with the use of other creator's plugins and other creator's platforms be worthy of it? Almost certainly not, but those who have created and maintained the platforms and technology that enables them to do so are.

This is my opinion and tsc's are his, I'm just sharing my thoughts on it.

smh where the hell is Sieb Tf2?

Exactly what Vouri said. No offense, but you shouldn't get a community weapon only because you shouted over 12 people playing videogames at a LAN once. The bar tsc laid out is hilariously low. You would have to give hundreds of people community weapons.

Allo ???
What about MasTeRn00B

if there's gonna be this much conflict over who would be nominated for a community weapon and who wouldn't, then just don't nominate anyone and kill this thread

no reason to continue splitting this already small and internally divided community over a fucking gun with sparkles on it

Cheers dude, I appreciate it, but hosting 2 ultiduo tournaments really isn't that big enough a contribution to the community to deserve a community weapon. There are people levels beyond the ones I will probably ever reach with regards to community contributions that deserve it much more than I do.

u mean hitler

I have to agree with everyone else that there are some people on this list not deserving of one. "Some people" being Sonny Black. Please remove him from this list immediately. Regards.

It's the classic TFTV circle jerk now with a fresh blend of feigned ignorance and historical revisionism

tbh idk why im on this list ive only been in this community for like a year and a half all I did during that was cast a french lan poorly lol

someone wants to be on the list...