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update is released
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#121
7 Frags +

i wonder how the pyro jetpack will work.
"Press shift to rocket jump" would be a bit lame

Scrambledhttp://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/koth_lazarus_rc1.bsp
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/cp_mossrock_rc5.bsp, reskin of cp_keikoku
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/plr_bananabay_rc4.bsp
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/koth_brazil_rc1.bsp
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/pl_enclosure_rc9b.bsp

lazarus has been updated since. its rc4 right now wich is probably the version that will be official.
https://tf2maps.net/threads/lazarus.30741/
edit: i get "engine hunk overflow" if i try to load that map with mastercoms config, you need to use a different config apparently

i wonder how the pyro jetpack will work.
[i]"Press shift to rocket jump"[/i] would be a bit lame
[quote=Scrambled]http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/koth_lazarus_rc1.bsp
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/cp_mossrock_rc5.bsp, reskin of [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8agZJYdXQ]cp_keikoku[/url]
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/plr_bananabay_rc4.bsp
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/koth_brazil_rc1.bsp
http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/pl_enclosure_rc9b.bsp[/quote]
lazarus has been updated since. its rc4 right now wich is probably the version that will be official.
https://tf2maps.net/threads/lazarus.30741/
[b]edit[/b]: i get "engine hunk overflow" if i try to load that map with mastercoms config, you need to use a different config apparently
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#122
-6 Frags +
sagei wonder how the pyro jetpack will work.
"Press shift to rocket jump" would be a bit lame

Can't imagine a different way for this that would make sense, maybe steering it will be a challenge though.

[quote=sage]i wonder how the pyro jetpack will work.
[i]"Press shift to rocket jump"[/i] would be a bit lame[/quote]
Can't imagine a different way for this that would make sense, maybe steering it will be a challenge though.
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#123
21 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/yYxkPuQ.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/yYxkPuQ.png[/img]
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#124
-4 Frags +

hey anyone in high tier need a pyro? im gonna stop playing scout so caeli doesnt bitch at me

hey anyone in high tier need a pyro? im gonna stop playing scout so caeli doesnt bitch at me
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#125
22 Frags +

holy shit guys what if day 4 is a halloween version of the yeti park map with a zombie yeti boss fight I'm calling it now AAAAAAAAAAA

holy shit guys what if day 4 is a halloween version of the yeti park map with a zombie yeti boss fight I'm calling it now AAAAAAAAAAA
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#126
TF2Pickup
5 Frags +
Caelihttps://i.imgur.com/yYxkPuQ.png

unlucky next official is on day 3

[quote=Caeli][img]https://i.imgur.com/yYxkPuQ.png[/img][/quote]

unlucky next official is on day 3
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#127
-4 Frags +

What if the jetpack is just a passive ability and it replaces airblast

What if the jetpack is just a passive ability and it replaces airblast
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#128
29 Frags +

just had a quick look at the koth maps, in my opinion they should get playtested and maybe even implemented in upcoming seasons so the mappool isnt limited to one koth map only

just had a quick look at the koth maps, in my opinion they should get playtested and maybe even implemented in upcoming seasons so the mappool isnt limited to one koth map only
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#129
5 Frags +
Tino_You wont see anything until thurs.

Welcome to actual updates.
Mitch_update is released

mitch baited me

[quote=Tino_]
You wont see anything until thurs.

Welcome to actual updates.[/quote]

[quote=Mitch_]
update is released[/quote]
mitch baited me
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#130
15 Frags +

tbh if the jetpack replaces shotgun and if they didnt even improved the flamethrowers hitreg, jetpack is mostly going to be used for fun and not effectiveness.

but lets see how things turn out to be. maybe there will be some other weapon to compliment it in the update.

tbh if the jetpack replaces shotgun and if they didnt even improved the flamethrowers hitreg, jetpack is mostly going to be used for fun and not effectiveness.

but lets see how things turn out to be. maybe there will be some other weapon to compliment it in the update.
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#131
0 Frags +

didnt think i would live to see the day

didnt think i would live to see the day
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#132
-3 Frags +

So which new map being released has the best chance of breaking into the 6's rotation?

So which new map being released has the best chance of breaking into the 6's rotation?
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#133
-8 Frags +

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#134
2 Frags +
yahootbh if the jetpack replaces shotgun and if they didnt even improved the flamethrowers hitreg, jetpack is mostly going to be used for fun and not effectiveness.

but lets see how things turn out to be. maybe there will be some other weapon to compliment it in the update.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of. Jetpack is a definite buff but not gonna be as useful as people think if the rest of pyros arsenal is still crap.

[quote=yahoo]tbh if the jetpack replaces shotgun and if they didnt even improved the flamethrowers hitreg, jetpack is mostly going to be used for fun and not effectiveness.

but lets see how things turn out to be. maybe there will be some other weapon to compliment it in the update.[/quote]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of. Jetpack is a definite buff but not gonna be as useful as people think if the rest of pyros arsenal is still crap.
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#135
-1 Frags +

really hyped for this :D

really hyped for this :D
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#136
-2 Frags +
smzijust had a quick look at the koth maps, in my opinion they should get playtested and maybe even implemented in upcoming seasons so the mappool isnt limited to one koth map only

If you want a new koth map, you should be trying to improve one already aimed at the comp scene. I haven't played brazil for a while but no way it hasn't already had 6's tests already. From pub tests i'm pretty confident as fun as lazarus is in pubs, it would be would be ass in 6's.

[quote=smzi]just had a quick look at the koth maps, in my opinion they should get playtested and maybe even implemented in upcoming seasons so the mappool isnt limited to one koth map only[/quote]
If you want a new koth map, you should be trying to improve one already aimed at the comp scene. I haven't played brazil for a while but no way it hasn't already had 6's tests already. From pub tests i'm pretty confident as fun as lazarus is in pubs, it would be would be ass in 6's.
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#137
-3 Frags +

Would it be practical to add a jetpack slot for pyro? Different jetpack unlocks create a variety of playstyles and without sacrificing the power of pyro's secondary.

Would it be practical to add a jetpack slot for pyro? Different jetpack unlocks create a variety of playstyles and without sacrificing the power of pyro's secondary.
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#138
27 Frags +

Feel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.

Feel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.
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#139
44 Frags +
WandumFeel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.

https://puu.sh/y0iMI/1d2967b5a7.png

[quote=Wandum]Feel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.[/quote]
https://puu.sh/y0iMI/1d2967b5a7.png
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#140
-1 Frags +
kmoo0105Would it be practical to add a jetpack slot for pyro? Different jetpack unlocks create a variety of playstyles and without sacrificing the power of pyro's secondary.

only IF the Pyro still need the shotgun and flare gun to actually deal damage like before

the problem with Pyro is not just mobility, but also his flamethrower; while other classes use their primary (secondary) weapons as a main weapons like Scattergun, RL, Sticky,... He needs to use the combo: Flame + Airblast + Shotgun-Flare to kill people, which is super annoying.

imagine if they nerf the Airblast to "emergency use only", and make the gun functions like a medium range LG/Plasma gun,
combine it with the mobility from the jetpack, it would be fucking awesome

[quote=kmoo0105]Would it be practical to add a jetpack slot for pyro? Different jetpack unlocks create a variety of playstyles and without sacrificing the power of pyro's secondary.[/quote]

only IF the Pyro still need the shotgun and flare gun to actually deal damage like before

the problem with Pyro is not just mobility, but also his flamethrower; while other classes use their primary (secondary) weapons as a main weapons like Scattergun, RL, Sticky,... He needs to use the combo: Flame + Airblast + Shotgun-Flare to kill people, which is super annoying.

imagine if they nerf the Airblast to "emergency use only", and make the gun functions like a medium range LG/Plasma gun,
combine it with the mobility from the jetpack, it would be fucking awesome
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#141
8 Frags +

maybe before making assumptions about how good or bad pyro will be with the addition of a jetpack we should wait until, i dont know, any concrete information at all exists about it?

maybe before making assumptions about how good or bad pyro will be with the addition of a jetpack we should wait until, i dont know, any concrete information at all exists about it?
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#142
1 Frags +

assuming valve would want the dr. grordbort weapons to be actually good design and not the objective worst, wouldn't the phlog be able to function as a lightning gun equivalent? like you just narrow the cone of the weird flame visual it has, make the hitboxes actually represent that visual and there you go

assuming valve would want the dr. grordbort weapons to be actually good design and not the objective worst, wouldn't the phlog be able to function as a lightning gun equivalent? like you just narrow the cone of the weird flame visual it has, make the hitboxes actually represent that visual and there you go
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#143
4 Frags +

Wonder how much ammo it's going to take to use that jet pack

Wonder how much ammo it's going to take to use that jet pack
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#144
-4 Frags +
WandumFeel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.

That's honestly a mistake, the only way this game is going to do anything but die relatively quickly is if valve supports the competitive scene properly.

Not to mention the fact that talking about new items is incredibly useful because in the meantime we get to choose our own whitelists and weapon bans. If tftv thinks the jetpack is a dumb concept that detracts from the game after playing with it for a bit, then it will get banned. Your opinions are important.

[quote=Wandum]Feel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.[/quote]
That's honestly a mistake, the only way this game is going to do anything but die relatively quickly is if valve supports the competitive scene [i]properly[/i].

Not to mention the fact that talking about new items is incredibly useful because in the meantime we get to choose our own whitelists and weapon bans. If tftv thinks the jetpack is a dumb concept that detracts from the game after playing with it for a bit, then it will get banned. Your opinions are important.
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#145
1 Frags +
sagei get "engine hunk overflow" if i try to load that map with mastercoms config, you need to use a different config apparently

Happens on some jump maps on mastercoms, r_hunkalloclightmaps 0 worked for me.

[quote=sage]i get "engine hunk overflow" if i try to load that map with mastercoms config, you need to use a different config apparently[/quote]

Happens on some jump maps on mastercoms, r_hunkalloclightmaps 0 worked for me.
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#146
2 Frags +

we did it bois

we did it bois
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#147
-6 Frags +
nopeWandumFeel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.That's honestly a mistake, the only way this game is going to do anything but die relatively quickly is if valve supports the competitive scene properly.

Not to mention the fact that talking about new items is incredibly useful because in the meantime we get to choose our own whitelists and weapon bans. If tftv thinks the jetpack is a dumb concept that detracts from the game after playing with it for a bit, then it will get banned. Your opinions are important.

Why would valve support a gamemode that >1% of the total playerbase actually plays? I find it odd how this sub-1% of the total playerbase should dictate the focus of the devs when like 70% of total games played are on cp_orange. Would i like valve to support us more? Of course-but it is absolutely dellusional to think that valve should consider it a decent use of their at this point very limmited resources.

[quote=nope][quote=Wandum]Feel like alot of people need to remember that theyre not a part of the target audience anymore. Sure, you can sit here and complain about new hats and how the pyro jetpack is theoretically either broken or completely useless, but if you're a hardcore 6s player you're nowhere near the target demographic, and the update is deffinately not made with you in mind.[/quote]
That's honestly a mistake, the only way this game is going to do anything but die relatively quickly is if valve supports the competitive scene [i]properly[/i].

Not to mention the fact that talking about new items is incredibly useful because in the meantime we get to choose our own whitelists and weapon bans. If tftv thinks the jetpack is a dumb concept that detracts from the game after playing with it for a bit, then it will get banned. Your opinions are important.[/quote]

Why would valve support a gamemode that >1% of the total playerbase actually plays? I find it odd how this sub-1% of the total playerbase should dictate the focus of the devs when like 70% of total games played are on cp_orange. Would i like valve to support us more? Of course-but it is absolutely dellusional to think that valve should consider it a decent use of their at this point very limmited resources.
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#148
16 Frags +

they've actually been pretty intentional about wanting to support 6s as the main format, similar to CSGO's setup, and they've said that multiple times to people when they've visited valve HQ. the actual problem is that it's valve, and valve usually just lifts stuff from the casual tf2 community like pub maps + taunts for 90% of all updates post-2011, so that intent just so happens to translate to fuck-all

they've actually been pretty intentional about wanting to support 6s as the main format, similar to CSGO's setup, and they've said that multiple times to people when they've visited valve HQ. the actual problem is that it's valve, and valve usually just lifts stuff from the casual tf2 community like pub maps + taunts for 90% of all updates post-2011, so that intent just so happens to translate to fuck-all
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#149
-2 Frags +

Replace airblast with the jet pack

Replace airblast with the jet pack
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#150
15 Frags +

Keeping the game balanced and away from stupid shit isn't just for competitive. Also im pretty sure the comp community is the most dedicated to tf2 than any other, that has to count for something.

Keeping the game balanced and away from stupid shit isn't just for competitive. Also im pretty sure the comp community is the most dedicated to tf2 than any other, that has to count for something.
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