^^^^^
+100 for this, but TF2 cares a lot on its main four settings (latency, tRCD, tRP, tRAS) +tRFC

I agree with you, though i did use regular DDR3 on this computer for a good year at least prior to this and i'm still going strong.

But since i couldn't run 2133 or loosen timings any primary timings at 1866, i tried going to the regular 1.35v and it is actually stable. I suppose it doesn't say 2133 was supported.

Also I reran the benchmark at 3.7GHz for comparison. Gained about 27fps overall.

1) Your "i've tried ddr3 for a year and it was fine" it's the worst thing a person can thought, that .15V more will kill your system waaaay faster than a regular 1.35V DDR3L (like if you're overclocking a 45nm and lower CPU and break 1.45V of vcore. Even if you won't notice, your CPU suffers a lot more and it will die in 5 years instead of 10)
It would be different if we were talking about socket 775 and older, in which case its memory controller is in the motherboard and not that much of an issue.
2) Regular ddr3 can't be put on a laptop cpu/system/mobo, as well it's impossibile 1.5V SODIMMs are available if not 2133/2400.
3)If your mobo/cpu isn't very capable of staying on 1.5V due to power and heat constraints, it will significately throttle (even if you won't notice on gameplay/normal scenario, your mobo will probabily scream for help)

2639 frames 13.230 seconds 199.47 fps ( 5.01 ms/f) 19.195 fps variability

CPU: i7-7700 @3.6GHz
GPU: GALAX 1060 Stock OC 6gb
RAM: 16gb
CFG:Comanglia's Stability config with some texture values changed
Res:1920x1080

#544/#547
You don't even know how electromigration works.
Also the IMC officially supports 1.35V, just like the CPUs before that supported 1.5V officially and the CPUs after only support 1.2V officially. I have seen exactly 0 CPUs die from running officially only 1.5V standard DDR3 controllers at 1.65V and I have also seen exactly 0 CPUs die from running 1.2V DDR4 controllers at 1.35V.

This is in no way "astonishingly dangerous". It's overclocking and voids the warranty like all overclocking, nothing more.

You are also confusing VCore and the IMC apparently. Changing the IMC voltage doesn't change VCore and doesn't lead to throttling.
If it was throttling due to the power limit why would the mobo "scream for help"? It's still the exact same amount of power as before.

Can someone provide benchmarks with Ryzen mobile APUs?

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So what's the link?

roughly same gfx cfg
upgraded pc to:
GTX1070 8GB
i5 6600k @ 4.7GHz
Corsair Vengeance 16gb @ 3200MHz

2639 frames 10.280 seconds 256.71 fps ( 3.90 ms/f) 22.133 fps variability

I mixed terminology by mistake, I understood msaa as a form of fsaa which is wrong.

bd-r backups are still useful for long term backup storage, cost per disc in spindles is rather cheap when on sale now.

Jdownloader is still useful for simply ripping youtube channels and other things, even in 2018, its more convenient than youtube-dl most of the time.

And of course more than two displays, that's what monitor arms are for.

Just doing something different, because most people don't clean boot to run a game these days.

You do realize that it's still pretty weird.
Browser, JDownloader, steam chat I can agree with.
Virtual Desktops are unusal.
Multiple explorer windows and command prompts are weird.
Downloading through steam is really weird because Steam pauses downloads when you launch a game for a reason.
Posting a reply after 10 months have passed is really fucking weird.
Playing a movie while playing a game is absolutely idiotic.
Using Blu-Rays for Backups is probably the worst thing I've heard this month.

You chose the least durable storage medium for your long term backups. You need to burn multiple at the same time to even keep up. Restoring 1 TB will take over 10 hours and requires you to swap 40 discs in and out.
You could've just used tapes if you wanted something that's cheap.

anyone got the demo?

GPU: RX Vega 56 flashed with 64 bios, undervolted, and memory OC'd
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x with boost power limits removed
RAM: Gskill DDR4 3200 @ 3266mhz
MOBO: ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING
OS: Windows 10 1903

Mastercomfig high textures and filtering low everything else DX 8.1
2639 frames 13.544 seconds 194.84 fps ( 5.13 ms/f) 13.647 fps variability

https://www.dropbox.com/s/efb16cqkfe0sv3j/benchmark1.dem?dl=0

GPU: RX 580 8GB stock clocks (19.5.2)
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x with PBO maxed out with voltage offset and LLC
RAM: G-SKILL F4-3200C14-8GTZSW (3466 14-15-14-28-1T)
MB: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC
OS: Windows 10 Education 1809 64bit
CFG: Mastercomfig experimental, 1080p, DX8.1

Core affinities 4, 6, 8, 10 gives me best performance. Normal priority
Can get higher FPS if I use a fixed voltage but it doesnt downvolt at idle so I dont bother because it only adds about 5-6fps.

And the mastercomfig demo

Did get 308fps in this demo with the fixed voltage I mentioned before.

GPU: RX Vega 56 flashed with 64 bios, undervolted, and memory OC'd
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x with boost power limits removed
RAM: Gskill DDR4 3200 @ 3266mhz
MOBO: ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING
OS: Windows 10 1903

Mastercomfig experimental DX8.1
2639 frames 12.151 seconds 217.18 fps ( 4.60 ms/f) 15.146 fps variability

Raised mem to 3400mhz
2639 frames 11.775 seconds 224.11 fps ( 4.46 ms/f) 14.790 fps variability

Ryzen 3000 anyone?
Should be pretty good for this game no?
Thinking about getting the 3600x

@#561

Ryzen 5 2600x user here, getting 250-300fps average probably the best investment i made in a long time (shoutout to setsul for recommendations). If the 3600x is nearly as good (and its 99,99999% likely going to be better) i can only recommend it

I guess the closest thing to TF2 is CS:GO. From the few benchmarks I could find, it was pretty much exactly on par with Intel at all price points. They always test e-sports games at settings which cause massive dips in minimum FPS though, so it would be nice to get some benchmarks using a config that is more representative.

getting a ryzen 5 3600 soon and ill post results and compare with my ryzen 7 1700x

Got bored and curious so i decided to benchmark all the dxlevels

dxlevel 8
2639 frames 12.328 seconds 214.07 fps ( 4.67 ms/f) 12.853 fps variability

dxlevel 81
2639 frames 12.284 seconds 214.83 fps ( 4.65 ms/f) 15.028 fps variability

dxlevel 9
2639 frames 12.065 seconds 218.74 fps ( 4.57 ms/f) 15.033 fps variability

dxlevel 91
2639 frames 13.219 seconds 199.64 fps ( 5.01 ms/f) 13.553 fps variability

dxlevel 95
2639 frames 13.170 seconds 200.38 fps ( 4.99 ms/f) 12.343 fps variability

dxlevel 98
2639 frames 13.315 seconds 198.20 fps ( 5.05 ms/f) 13.427 fps variability

Mastercoms experimental
8x af 4x aa forced in Radeon Settings
Ryzen 7 2700x (PBO limit increased) with Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
16gb (x2 8gb) DDR4 @ 3266mhz 16-18-18-38
Vega 56 flashed with 64 bios (undervolted and HBM clocked to 1050mhz)
Latest GPU/chipset drivers and bios as of this post
Windows 10 1903

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Try -dxlevel 100. Best performance out of all DX9 levels for me, although still inferior to -dxlevel 81.

Anyone know why there's such variance in benchmark1 performance? Sometimes I'll get 283fps (multiple runs to confirm) then reboot my PC, run again, and immediately get 297fps. Never any difference in background programs – only have Steam, discord and RTSS running anyway.

3600 is coming wednesday so get ready

before:
ryzen 1600 no overclock and b350 mortar with 3200 ram
2639 frames 18.924 seconds 139.46 fps ( 7.17 ms/f) 10.207 fps variability dustbowl

after: ryzen 3600x no overclock and b350 mortar with 3200 ram
2639 frames 13.774 seconds 191.60 fps ( 5.22 ms/f) 16.238 fps variability

no config on both and graphics on the highest settings
i dont think the benchmark values do it justice i get so much better minimuns fps where before i would get to 80´s on a full pub now i get 130´s, game is much smoother eevn though my performance is still probably butchered by shitty bios
overall game is much better but still has its hiccups due to the shitty coding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA1mbZ_MMh8

2639 frames 8.776 seconds 300.72 fps ( 3.33 ms/f) 21.626 fps variability
8350K@5000 w/4133C16-17-17-32-2N (all subtimings auto).

Interested to see 3600X and 3700X results with 3733 or higher RAM.

Does anyone know if running timedemo on a 6s POV simulates the real load on your PC during the match or is it less demanding than real-time? Because I never drop below 260~ FPS in 6s POVs but I swear I drop down to like 220-240~ during the actual match. Probably need to log my FPS next time I play.

^ what CPU is that?

I'm upgrading from i5-3570k to R7 3700X, so I'll make sure to post some comparisons with different mastercomfig presets, I might include frametime graphs with that if I feel like it :)

im very impressed with the ryzen 5 3600, i would highly recommend
all using my own demo for a longer benchmark and this config
my demo
my config
memory 3200 16-18-18-34

1700x oc https://i.imgur.com/y81sP9v.png using my config and -r_emulate_gl
22256 frames 97.592 seconds 228.05 fps ( 4.38 ms/f) 16.424 fps variability
22256 frames 98.202 seconds 226.64 fps ( 4.41 ms/f) 16.484 fps variability
22256 frames 97.996 seconds 227.11 fps ( 4.40 ms/f) 16.343 fps variability
22256 frames 97.998 seconds 227.11 fps ( 4.40 ms/f) 16.211 fps variability
22256 frames 98.102 seconds 226.87 fps ( 4.41 ms/f) 16.202 fps variability
227.156 fps avg 16.3328 fps var avg

1700x stock https://i.imgur.com/hdRlizM.png using my config and -r_emulate_gl
22256 frames 107.969 seconds 206.13 fps ( 4.85 ms/f) 16.043 fps variability
22256 frames 107.098 seconds 207.81 fps ( 4.81 ms/f) 15.996 fps variability
22256 frames 107.405 seconds 207.22 fps ( 4.83 ms/f) 14.760 fps variability
22256 frames 107.544 seconds 206.95 fps ( 4.83 ms/f) 15.082 fps variability
22256 frames 107.811 seconds 206.43 fps ( 4.84 ms/f) 14.983 fps variability
206.908 fps avg 15.3728 fps var avg

3600 stock https://i.imgur.com/Qe6ac1U.png (turboing to 4.1ghz) using my config and -r_emulate_gl
22256 frames 66.053 seconds 336.94 fps ( 2.97 ms/f) 31.857 fps variability
22256 frames 65.645 seconds 339.04 fps ( 2.95 ms/f) 29.813 fps variability
22256 frames 65.957 seconds 337.43 fps ( 2.96 ms/f) 30.393 fps variability
22256 frames 70.486 seconds 315.75 fps ( 3.17 ms/f) 26.188 fps variability
22256 frames 65.924 seconds 337.60 fps ( 2.96 ms/f) 29.528 fps variability
333.352 fps avg 29.5558 fps var avg

3600 stock https://i.imgur.com/Qe6ac1U.png (turboing to 4.1ghz) using mastercoms low and -r_emulate_gl
22256 frames 61.774 seconds 360.28 fps ( 2.78 ms/f) 35.332 fps variability
22256 frames 61.268 seconds 363.26 fps ( 2.75 ms/f) 35.591 fps variability
22256 frames 61.571 seconds 361.47 fps ( 2.77 ms/f) 36.034 fps variability
22256 frames 61.971 seconds 359.13 fps ( 2.78 ms/f) 35.969 fps variability
22256 frames 61.499 seconds 361.89 fps ( 2.76 ms/f) 35.662 fps variability
361.206 fps avg 35.7176‬ fps var avg

3600 stock https://i.imgur.com/Qe6ac1U.png (turboing to 4.1ghz) using mastercoms low and no -r_emulate_gl
22256 frames 62.134 seconds 358.19 fps ( 2.79 ms/f) 34.584 fps variability
22256 frames 62.496 seconds 356.12 fps ( 2.81 ms/f) 34.274 fps variability
22256 frames 62.768 seconds 354.58 fps ( 2.82 ms/f) 34.670 fps variability
22256 frames 62.982 seconds 353.37 fps ( 2.83 ms/f) 34.468 fps variability
22256 frames 62.905 seconds 353.80 fps ( 2.83 ms/f) 34.471 fps variability
355.212‬ fps avg 34.4934‬ fps var avg

jesus fucking christ
overtime i've regretted going for a 8350k instead of a ryzen 5 when i built my pc, even more so with zen2 putting out these numbers in the tf2 benchmark
ofc i'm not gonna buy a brand new motherboard and cpu just to get more fps in tf2 (i def would if i had some left over money) but i'm super impressed with zen2