bearodactylthe half zatoichi (or however tf you spell it) is a pretty good meme as well
for roamers as well that argument holds setsul but taking more damage from scouts often isn't worth it if you are just playing passive on flank (also for demo you take 165 on a headshot with the pain train)
it's definitely situational imo
if you win mid and have advantage to our into the enemies last ofc it's nice but running it full time isn't always worth taking extra damage
tbh I don't see it as much as a meme really since if you're having to use your melee weapon you're probably going to be out of loaded ammo and possibly at low health. Plus the extra distance and health back on kill are pretty cool upsides if you happen to get a kill with it
SetsulIf you are in a situation where 10% more damage from scouts make a difference you're out of position.
If you are in a situation where 2x cap time makes a difference you are capping a point (most likely last) which means you are winning the game.
Pain train is the only reasonable choice.
Or is someone going to argue that there's such a thing as too much backcaps on last?
You made an excellent point about the positioning thing with scouts, but I would personally argue that if a team is doing a good enough job of checking hiding spots for potential backcappers, there's less of a chance that you'll actually get a backcap. Obviously if the other team isn't checking spots then kudos to you for securing another round. But I feel that if you do end up getting spotted and die while the other team is capping 2nd, it's unlikely that you'll be up in time to be in position to stop a push into mid, dependent on if the other team has uber or not. Even an off uber push can be dangerous if you get caught out because that can end up snowballing into a chance for the other team to secure another round.
It's not that the pain train is completely worthless, but being the last one left alive and having a trap up to potentially pick off the medic is a safer option imo than hiding and going for a backcap, not that it isn't a good thing to have happen during a match