thank you for proving my point that the first thread by a community member should not be considered "official" as it, like I said earlier, does not list snakewater g7

cos people here don't like logic, it seems. or more likely just don't like me, gg

edit: by interpreting the "-frags" you mention as the community's opinion, they are happy with having three different season open dates, confusion of map list/versions, and don't believe they deserve better from a league they pay for. wonder what everyone's complaining about then

...or ya know the whole it's just me thing ;_;

when I say "official", I mean just that-- official. An announcement on the ESEA league site or publicly posted by an admin himself, not people starting spectulative threads copy pasting pm's from conversations they had with an admin or from another source. Whether or not the current map list everyone's playing by has proper versions and correct order, there has still not been an OFFICIAL release of S15 map rotation.

Hypothetically when competing in a league one should be able to navigate that league's site and find the official map rotation for a season, not have to look through a third party's forums for posts from other community members. So no, no official map list has been released yet. And maybe I'm alone in my expectations but I guess I think we, as players and a community, deserve something more concrete from a league we pay for, especially when it's something as simple as a season's map list.

that's not the final map list, it doesn't list g7 for snakewater and people in this thread have even mentioned "map rotation pls"

esea- pay to play, can't even get a real season opening date or release an official map list
ugc- free to play, consistent league and match scheduling every season/week, releases map list at the beginning of each offseason

seems legit

dat last push with the headshot at 99... i feel your pain. x__x it's k they're a strong beautiful team who don't need no uber

I disagree with this-- pushing in 6s compared to HL is much more team oriented, defending is too. Transition pushes without any uber also relies more on team work in 6s (roamers creating space, scouts protecting their demo and med, focusing fire, etc.) whereas in HL you can have a spy drop a medic+heavy combo just from luck or chance in good positioning and have the entire situation change. Similarly you can have one pyro negate an entire uber and the whole thing just stalemates and you start over again.

6s is more dynamic, it moves faster, and there's greater costs and rewards depending on what your team does. every pick and every death matters, and it requires both sides to be able to have the game sense to assess the situation, react quickly and work effectively together as a team. HL has so many people running around all the time it's just chaos and confusion.

just my opinion. I play HL for fun, but I would agree that it's basically like pubbing. Also random note, I don't understand why HL plays 5cp

probably once registration ends =/

does anyone know what version of snake is being played?

resolution once season starts: stop going on forums

one more week! gl to all the teams looking for players and players looking for team

the best part of having a team-- making events on our steam group

http://i.imgur.com/dfgVMjj.png

gg was thanksgiving break last week of regular season

quick-fix still not listed

jw, how were these stats counted? he popped 8457 ubers in one season??.. is that including scrims and stuff lol how was it counted w/o a strange

edit-- ;__; all the other ones were serious lol i didn't know

does anyone know anything about STVs and demos only showing your own hat? everyone else's items look completely vanilla like no names, descs, paint, effects, etc. just wondering if anyone knows when it's gonna get fixed or any info on it?

who made the avatar it's the greatest