Never had a doubt. Also now don't have a liver.

The TGS guys did a big Battle Royale with that game a while back, TotalBiscuit's videos are hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXpuYg6VlBo

https://twitter.com/duder_extv

These days I get hammered and watch a lot of hockey.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Randomly happening onto one of your videos one night like a year and a half ago and PM'ing eXtine about it is probably my single greatest contribution to the TF2 community. And I'm totally ok with that.

Good luck in all your future endeavors - if you put the same effort into your career that you did w/ trying to ignite this game, I know you'll go far.

I just don't get it. Apparently you're ok with being stolen from, as long as they give it back? Does that negate the fact you were stolen from and defrauded in the first place?

It's disconcerting you're all quick to talk shit about me for being mad yet you're all cool with this situation quietly going away. All you're saying is you're cool with ESEA doing whatever the fuck they want as long as they pay somebody some money if they get caught.

THE BROKE A FUCKING FEDERAL LAW.

Lawsuits are civil, great way to get damages. This is criminal.

Whatever though, enjoy you fucking invite prize pot boost and free month of premium. Hope those 6 people out of 1000's really enjoy that extra money.

I'll never understand you guys.

Uh... they broke FEDERAL LAW. That's a pretty big fucking *mistake.* Hey I killed this guy, but I'm really sorry about it and I've donated some money a bought a couple video cards so whammy... it was just a *mistake.* No. It doesn't fucking work that way.

It's a shame people seem to have 5 second attention spans these days. Exactly what Torbull wanted to happen, is happening... pacify the few actually pissed off people, throw more money into the pot (they could easily afford 10x that every season, but that's another discussion) which ultimately affects a TINY percentage of affected players, and move on. In a week we'll all move on to some other witch hunt (paging the next HL player caught cheating) and Torbull and the other ESEA owners will sit back and laugh and hatch their next get rich quick scheme.

Skyride said it up above - ESEA is a necessary evil, and no one is willing to step up to challenge them. They hold the monopoly for competitive TF2 in NA and they know it. They're literally the Comcast of TF2... they hold all the cards and will do whatever they want with them and as a community we've proven time and time again we'll just bend over and take it.

So instead of demanding change, innovation, competition... we'll just keep throwing more and more money into ESEA and they'll keep rolling along with the status quo because there's absolutely no reason to change. It's a god damn shame.

They can take our bitcoins...

BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR PREMIUM!

Ignorance does not preclude liability.

It's a blatant violation of i-spy - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr1525/text

"Whoever intentionally accesses a protected computer without authorization, or exceeds authorized access to a protected computer, by causing a computer program or code to be copied onto the protected computer, and intentionally uses that program or code in furtherance of another Federal criminal offense shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Even if that was true, "for the greater good" is not an acceptable excuse to illicitly use software for means other than those stated in the license agreement. Think of it this way, if you and I were friends and we enter into an agreement to work together that's overtly mutually beneficial to both of us, but the whole time I was just using your services WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE to steal money - would you be ok with that? I never said I'd do it, our contract may have suggested I *could* do it, but the whole time we were working together I was behind your back using all your tools without your permission or knowledge.

According to them, it was a joke and then it was meant to increase the prize pot... If this goes south, which I can only imagine it will once charges are filed (probably criminal first, if a DA gets their hands on this it'd be an easy win in new media which they love) I'm guessing ESEA admins run, most likely out of the country. Keep in mind if there is an injunction a cease and desist will be filed, which means the the business, the servers, and the client will stop working.

Steps need to be taken asap to protect NA TF2 if you guys want to keep playing. CEVO or UGC needs to step up and create contingency plans to host S14 if ESEA et al is shut down or the admins run.

Has anyone gone through past versions of the client to see when the code was implemented? I have an old version installed on my machine at home, haven't updated in quite a while, I'd be happy to upload it somewhere for someone to look into it.

This is a violation of FEDERAL law, btw. EULA's do not supersede Federal laws - software must function solely for the express purpose the developer states. At no time was the ESEA client listed as a bitcoin miner. If charges haven't been filed against ESEA et al, they will be soon. They're an LLC so there probably won't be huge damages, but if you're on the fence about putting money into ESEA this season I would seriously consider holding off.

Chances are there will be a class action suit filed against ESEA with anyone who installed the client as plantiffs - it'd be pretty open and shut, given the preponderance of evidence already out there. The real question is how long this has been going on and how much they really made off of it.

This raises another question, as well - what were they doing with the client prior to bitcoin mining? Was it keylogging while it was running? Maybe it was relaying torrents or acting as an HTTP or TOR proxy... after I rar that shit up it's coming off my machine for good.

If you opt in to the beta and join a SourceMod Anti Cheat server you will get banned.

If you install PVHUD (and possibly any other HUD) TF2 will no longer open and you'll need to validate your game files to fix it.

I would avoid this opt-in beta until they have time to resolve all of this.

Been playing this for a while w/ the eXtv guys... super fun. The devs are totally awesome, too. They do weekly streams on Wednesday's to show off the upcoming changes. We're actually thinking about producing some content for the YouTube channel revolving around Loadout... still in the works, though. If you can get a key, check this one out.