how do you people manage to contain your autism enough to not get banned from UGC?

help

you managed to make the one post worse than the op

i minus fragged this

didn't we have this thread last week

$20 isn't exactly a weighty sum. I'm sure a lot of us have spent more on steam games that we didn't bother to open. The actual investment isn't that severe, but it's still enough to weed out people who just want to sin up and fuck around, and people who aren't serious enough to bust out the credit card. The compound of 5 other people paying is also a decent psychological incentive to at least try.

Copying ESEA is probably not the best idea. Providing the average player with a better value + not stealing my identity is a very good business idea. Making the bottom half of open only pay half as much into the pot would at least make me feel better when I end up with another season where I don't win a round.

ESEA does suck a lot of money out for features that we don't use. If CEVO is just gonna make me pay that same amount and put it in the pot that I'm never going to see, the actual benefit is fairly minimal for me. The online upside is the teams at the top who were gonna roll me are gonna try harder since the pot is bigger. Seeing as the actual benefit for the lower level players is nonexistant, we're now faced with the dilemma of signing up and paying for CEVO, a league that very few players have shown support for, or ESEA, which at the very least, I know people will be playing in. CEVO has to give a large, and strong motive for people to abandon ESEA, and these players need to come from every level, not just play off winners and good players. So far they haven't shown a good incentive for low open players to join their community over ESEA. Making their price point lower would be a solid advantage

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The answer is nothing for everyone who isn't a playoff contender. I'm a shitty player so I get nothing out of a prize pot. People are okay with a league fee because it makes people approach the game differently, and most people are perfectly fine with $5 for a bunch of ggs over the next few months. But $20 so the exinvite player who made a team with his friends can roll our team and then win the division is retarded. Make open cheap as shit, since the money is way more symbolic than anything. Invite and Main could have larger prize pots and donations and shit since (theoretically), any given team should have a reasonable chance of winning. Open and to a lesser extent IM aren't as well put together, lacking a round robin format and given Open's large skill range.

You either have to waste a season where you play with shitty unlocks to prove that, yes, disappearing projectiles and free headshot revolvers are not fun or engaging, or ban them and risk discovering that engineer and spy are actually fun as a full time class, which we can already guess that they aren't based on shit like the gunslinger already proving they aren't

Money isn't an incentive for most of the people in the bottom division. For me, the money is an insurance that I'll actually get a good game. $5-$10 is a decent amount to make sure a player is going to invest some amount of effort. No one is going to pay more for this than ESEA, when one of the biggest complaints for ESEA was the money wasn't actually getting you anything. Premium is completely a waste. If you want to beat ESEA, just undercut them by having a $10 league fee and no premium

i just want to play video games

i really don't care how much I pay as long as it's less than ESEA. If it's more the everyone is going to go back to esea

Because no one wants to play for a league we've never used before and there's no guarantee that anyone will actually pay to play in. If it's a choice between this and ESEA, I'd probably pick ESEA for being a better guarantee of people actually joining

you forgot muslim christmas

your name is literally cut off from your album cover

because last time we had this thread we had people complaining about malignant contracts and most people assume that a league that doesn't understand tf2 is gonna be toxic as fuck

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