mopsyhunter did u use chatgpt to write this post
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cookiehttps://youtu.be/RHD7JLnAsA8?si=qRFM7liI5YB6u-gy&t=287
this one is my favourite lol
dude wtf arenyt u the guy cheating in the video? and u have a favorite part of the video where u cheated? not cool man......
this one is my favourite lol[/quote]
dude wtf arenyt u the guy cheating in the video? and u have a favorite part of the video where u cheated? not cool man......
cukei moonlight lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1No1SB0ThP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1No1SB0ThP0
Tholecookiehttps://youtu.be/RHD7JLnAsA8?si=qRFM7liI5YB6u-gy&t=287dude wtf arenyt u the guy cheating in the video? and u have a favorite part of the video where u cheated? not cool man......
this one is my favourite lol
There are like 8 different cookies in competitive tf2... I have like 3 of them on my friends list alone lol
this one is my favourite lol[/quote]
dude wtf arenyt u the guy cheating in the video? and u have a favorite part of the video where u cheated? not cool man......[/quote]
There are like 8 different cookies in competitive tf2... I have like 3 of them on my friends list alone lol
botmodemopsyhunter did u use chatgpt to write this postforum post cheating smh
im dead
forum post cheating smh[/quote]
im dead
MozzarellaFireFoxcukei moonlight lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1No1SB0ThP0
why are people downvoting this, i think its awesome thanks dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1No1SB0ThP0[/quote]
why are people downvoting this, i think its awesome thanks dude
rainRGL needs more proof on this one still
mintyxdat least he gets to play 2 more seasons before he gets banned better get it all out
i guess rgl's friday admin meeting has deemed him not cheating.
too busy doing nothing else
[quote=mintyxd]at least he gets to play 2 more seasons before he gets banned better get it all out[/quote]
i guess rgl's friday admin meeting has deemed him not cheating.
too busy doing nothing else
raini guess rgl's friday admin meeting has deemed him not cheating.
too busy doing nothing else
Probably too busy determining if a player who went 0-16 in invite 5 years ago should be class restricted.
i guess rgl's friday admin meeting has deemed him not cheating.
too busy doing nothing else[/quote]
Probably too busy determining if a player who went 0-16 in invite 5 years ago should be class restricted.
not to get political or anything but
diemostf2 players paying 35$ to lose to closet cheaters
:D
tf2 players paying 3$ to watch a demo
D:
[quote=diemos]tf2 players paying 35$ to lose to closet cheaters
:D
tf2 players paying 3$ to watch a demo
D:[/quote]
The chapter is finally complete.
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The chapter is finally complete.
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The chapter is finally complete.
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The chapter is finally complete.[/quote]
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the fact that it took this long is insane, although I guess it doesnt matter that big of an amount since he doesnt play seasons anymore anyway. still a long ass time to let a blatant cheater go unpunished though regardless
cukei perma'd for developing cheats lol
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"I can't imagine a scenario where they are acting in good faith when they are willfully misinterpreting what the software is doing."
what this means bro. what are you developing, fuckin TF2 PokéWalker?
edit: nvm if you just look up "cukei github" it's a mod preloader. i don't know to what extent what mods work with it so i have no idea what possible cheat mods exist, if any, but i think at a base level im sure you could just hand make transparent textures and preload them in so it makes sense to not allow it imo
what this means bro. what are you developing, fuckin TF2 PokéWalker?
edit: nvm if you just look up "cukei github" it's a mod preloader. i don't know to what extent what mods work with it so i have no idea what possible cheat mods exist, if any, but i think at a base level im sure you could just hand make transparent textures and preload them in so it makes sense to not allow it imo
https://www.youtube.com/@qewki the fraud is posting being proud of his cheats, what a loser honestly
untamedhttps://www.youtube.com/@qewki the fraud is posting being proud of his cheats, what a loser honestly
thats a particles mod afaik, it just looks sus af because it changes the "overheal particles" effect for a big square on the character model
thats a particles mod afaik, it just looks sus af because it changes the "overheal particles" effect for a big square on the character model
sageuntamedhttps://www.youtube.com/@qewki the fraud is posting being proud of his cheats, what a loser honestlythats a particles mod afaik, it just looks sus af because it changes the "overheal particles" effect for a big square on the character model
https://youtu.be/yewKZLuJXV0?si=1acDtgN0aO_y9H1S we're just gonna miss this vid ig https://youtu.be/pqTiDdd8EkM?si=CdwEoXgS5w6IUZDl or this, unless you're making the argument that he doesn't cheat at all in these vids cause it wasn't only the particles that I was talking about
thats a particles mod afaik, it just looks sus af because it changes the "overheal particles" effect for a big square on the character model[/quote]
https://youtu.be/yewKZLuJXV0?si=1acDtgN0aO_y9H1S we're just gonna miss this vid ig https://youtu.be/pqTiDdd8EkM?si=CdwEoXgS5w6IUZDl or this, unless you're making the argument that he doesn't cheat at all in these vids cause it wasn't only the particles that I was talking about
I will try to explain preloading to the best of my ability so that people can objectively analyze whether the program meets "developing and distributing cheats." At the bottom I will give my opinion and explanation on the preloading tool. If I am wrong at all I welcome people to correct me as I am in no way an expert on this topic. I will disclose that I have messed around with preloading before and have installed and messed around with cukei's preloader. I have never used cukei's preloader or had it enabled during any competitive league games. For anyone questioning my integrity, I stream all my scrims and matches so if I had any banned mods installed, you could see them.
Whether or not custom mods are allowed on a server is based on the sv_pure of a server, an in game command. sv_pure -1 and 0 allow all mods. sv_pure 1 allows certain whitelisted mods. sv_pure 2 forces default assets. Many custom community servers run sv_pure -1, 0, or 1 while competitive servers run sv_pure 2.
Preloading is a method of loading in certain game modifications to change things like custom weapon skins, player model replacements, particle replacements, or taunt replacements etc. Generally, preloading is done by adding a script to your cfg files. What the script does is when the game boots up, it opens an offline server then closes it which "loads" your installed mods before joining on offline server. The preloaded mods are loaded to your game files and able to replace the default assets depending on the type of server you join and that server's sv_pure level. For example, instead of having the original rocket launcher, you might replace it with the quake 2 launcher model.
Recently, people discovered methods of developing mods that, when preloaded, were able to bypass certain sv_pure server settings. These methods worked for certain types of mods and allowed people to bypass anything up to sv_pure 1 restrictions. From my understanding, until cukei's preloading tool was developed, no one had publicly released a method of being able to preload mods on sv_pure 2 servers. For the most part, people that install and use cukei's mod exclusively play casual/community servers and want to install mods to make the game more enjoyable. That being said, there are mods that change aspects of the game files which violate the cheating rules of competitive leagues. Since I play in North America, I will focus on RGL's rules regarding game modifications.
Section 1003 of the RGL Global Rules address "Game Integrity" and discuss their stance on game modifications. Game mods fall under Subsection 1003.3 - Game Exploits. Some examples of mods RGL provides as game exploits are "recolored or modified weapon tracer effects; Oversized particle effects (e.g. healing particles, weapon particles, etc.); Transparent enemy pyro flames (removing your own flames is allowed); Using mods to replace player texture colors; and Developer Textures." If someone changed the overheal particles like in the videos linked or changed the weapon particles, that violates RGLs game exploit rules.
From an anticheat perspective, because these modifications are done client side, I do not think they are possible to detect by watching a demo file. The only way to know if someone is using the files is to physically see their screen when they play the game.
I will now give my opinion on what I believe the program does and whether the ban was justified so there may be bias.
The program by itself does nothing. The program is a tool which allows the user to choose custom mod files which it then runs through itself to make them bypass sv_pure and default game textures, models, etc. While the program is a tool that makes it easier for people to install mods that violate the integrity of competitive leagues, I don't see how the program is any different than someone modifying their game files to change the spy decloak sound, adding in metal footsteps, or adding in sniper scope transparency. I do agree that the program lowers the barrier for nefarious individuals to cheat, but, I believe if someone was determined enough to cheat, they would eventually find a way. For all we know people may have already been cheating using preloading methods before this.
Do I think a ban for developing and distributing cheats is warranted - no. The preloader itself does not give the user cheats, it enables that user to install mods that violate the competitive integrity and rule sets of competitive leagues.
I'm not addressing any other bans on cukei's RGL account because that is not the point of my post.
Whether or not custom mods are allowed on a server is based on the sv_pure of a server, an in game command. sv_pure -1 and 0 allow all mods. sv_pure 1 allows certain whitelisted mods. sv_pure 2 forces default assets. Many custom community servers run sv_pure -1, 0, or 1 while competitive servers run sv_pure 2.
Preloading is a method of loading in certain game modifications to change things like custom weapon skins, player model replacements, particle replacements, or taunt replacements etc. Generally, preloading is done by adding a script to your cfg files. What the script does is when the game boots up, it opens an offline server then closes it which "loads" your installed mods before joining on offline server. The preloaded mods are loaded to your game files and able to replace the default assets depending on the type of server you join and that server's sv_pure level. For example, instead of having the original rocket launcher, you might replace it with the quake 2 launcher model.
Recently, people discovered methods of developing mods that, when preloaded, were able to bypass certain sv_pure server settings. These methods worked for certain types of mods and allowed people to bypass anything up to sv_pure 1 restrictions. From my understanding, until cukei's preloading tool was developed, no one had publicly released a method of being able to preload mods on sv_pure 2 servers. For the most part, people that install and use cukei's mod exclusively play casual/community servers and want to install mods to make the game more enjoyable. That being said, there are mods that change aspects of the game files which violate the cheating rules of competitive leagues. Since I play in North America, I will focus on RGL's rules regarding game modifications.
Section 1003 of the RGL Global Rules address "Game Integrity" and discuss their stance on game modifications. Game mods fall under Subsection 1003.3 - Game Exploits. Some examples of mods RGL provides as game exploits are "recolored or modified weapon tracer effects; Oversized particle effects (e.g. healing particles, weapon particles, etc.); Transparent enemy pyro flames (removing your own flames is allowed); Using mods to replace player texture colors; and Developer Textures." If someone changed the overheal particles like in the videos linked or changed the weapon particles, that violates RGLs game exploit rules.
From an anticheat perspective, because these modifications are done client side, I do not think they are possible to detect by watching a demo file. The only way to know if someone is using the files is to physically see their screen when they play the game.
I will now give my opinion on what I believe the program does and whether the ban was justified so there may be bias.
The program by itself does nothing. The program is a tool which allows the user to choose custom mod files which it then runs through itself to make them bypass sv_pure and default game textures, models, etc. While the program is a tool that makes it easier for people to install mods that violate the integrity of competitive leagues, I don't see how the program is any different than someone modifying their game files to change the spy decloak sound, adding in metal footsteps, or adding in sniper scope transparency. I do agree that the program lowers the barrier for nefarious individuals to cheat, but, I believe if someone was determined enough to cheat, they would eventually find a way. For all we know people may have already been cheating using preloading methods before this.
Do I think a ban for developing and distributing cheats is warranted - no. The preloader itself does not give the user cheats, it enables that user to install mods that violate the competitive integrity and rule sets of competitive leagues.
I'm not addressing any other bans on cukei's RGL account because that is not the point of my post.
untamedhttps://youtu.be/yewKZLuJXV0?si=1acDtgN0aO_y9H1S we're just gonna miss this vid ig https://youtu.be/pqTiDdd8EkM?si=CdwEoXgS5w6IUZDl or this, unless you're making the argument that he doesn't cheat at all in these vids cause it wasn't only the particles that I was talking about
I'm going to be honest, none of the clips in either of those videos are alarming. The original clips of them cheating look a lot different from anything here. I could definitely be wrong though.The only thing that is blatantly showing cheats is the thumbnail which has seemingly the same hud, and config which is way too much of a coincidence.
Couldn't find the image from the thumbnail anywhere either so they could have made it themselves.
https://youtu.be/yewKZLuJXV0?si=1acDtgN0aO_y9H1S we're just gonna miss this vid ig https://youtu.be/pqTiDdd8EkM?si=CdwEoXgS5w6IUZDl or this, unless you're making the argument that he doesn't cheat at all in these vids cause it wasn't only the particles that I was talking about[/quote]
I'm going to be honest, none of the clips in either of those videos are alarming. The original clips of them cheating look a lot different from anything here. I could definitely be wrong though.The only thing that is blatantly showing cheats is the thumbnail which has seemingly the same hud, and config which is way too much of a coincidence.
Couldn't find the image from the thumbnail anywhere either so they could have made it themselves.
Fireball7d7
I respect the effort you have put into this post, especially given my reputation, the least I could do is reciprocate that effort.
You nailed exactly what the situation is, really all I can add is regarding the sv_pure comment in paragraph 4.
sv_pure is a server setting that sets the expected type of acceptable customization. You got -1 and 0 correct, but something to consider is that sv_pure 1 and 2 are functionally identical (from the perspective of the game). 1 sets the pure mode to be 'custom', all that means is that the server owner provides a custom whitelist (sorta like weapon bans), while 2 is just setting that whitelist to the whitelist Valve provides (sv_pure_whitelist_full). This is to say that, any mod/preloader that was working previously on sv_pure 1, like the left hand fix for the original, horsie's custom viewmodels, or jarateking's flat textures, all would work on both sv_pure 1 and sv_pure 2 (even if the whitelist forbid them). My program isn't doing anything special regarding sv_pure levels. Referencing Modern Casual Preloader and QuickPrecache again, you could view my app as the third generation of mod loaders. It allows for further customization beyond what they provided by combining their methods, as well as my own, all into one package.
In terms of modability, the game stands in a weird place. There has been some effort by Valve, even recently, to remove the worst exploits, showing it's entirely possible to have this game in a state where mod compatibility exists while keeping integrity at a reasonable level. There's a lot of love in the modding scene, and it's refreshing to see how much effort people put into their work.
Initially, my goal with this project was to make the game less visibly annoying, you can see my vision if you use the Vanilla+ preset in the preloader. The fixes are so basic, that the mod does not contain any custom materials, modifying a couple minute values within the particle files makes the game better for everyone, and it makes me a little sad that it will never be in the game proper.
I completely agree with all of your opinions, be rest assured the potential consequences of such a tool are not lost on me. I do not protest my previous ban, and nothing here should have any influence on it.
MaehemThe only thing that is blatantly showing cheats is the thumbnail which has seemingly the same hud, and config which is way too much of a coincidence.
I got it from google images, I think that's hypnotize hud, I used toucahud/m0rehud in the video.
I respect the effort you have put into this post, especially given my reputation, the least I could do is reciprocate that effort.
You nailed exactly what the situation is, really all I can add is regarding the sv_pure comment in paragraph 4.
sv_pure is a server setting that sets the expected type of acceptable customization. You got -1 and 0 correct, but something to consider is that sv_pure 1 and 2 are functionally identical (from the perspective of the game). 1 sets the pure mode to be 'custom', all that means is that the server owner provides a custom whitelist (sorta like weapon bans), while 2 is just setting that whitelist to the whitelist Valve provides (sv_pure_whitelist_full). This is to say that, any mod/preloader that was working previously on sv_pure 1, like the left hand fix for the original, horsie's custom viewmodels, or jarateking's flat textures, all would work on both sv_pure 1 and sv_pure 2 (even if the whitelist forbid them). My program isn't doing anything special regarding sv_pure levels. Referencing Modern Casual Preloader and QuickPrecache again, you could view my app as the third generation of mod loaders. It allows for further customization beyond what they provided by combining their methods, as well as my own, all into one package.
In terms of modability, the game stands in a weird place. There has been some effort by Valve, even recently, to remove the worst exploits, showing it's entirely possible to have this game in a state where mod compatibility exists while keeping integrity at a reasonable level. There's a lot of love in the modding scene, and it's refreshing to see how much effort people put into their work.
Initially, my goal with this project was to make the game less visibly annoying, you can see my vision if you use the Vanilla+ preset in the preloader. The fixes are so basic, that the mod does not contain any custom materials, modifying a couple minute values within the particle files makes the game better for everyone, and it makes me a little sad that it will never be in the game proper.
I completely agree with all of your opinions, be rest assured the potential consequences of such a tool are not lost on me. I do not protest my previous ban, and nothing here should have any influence on it.
[quote=Maehem]The only thing that is blatantly showing cheats is the thumbnail which has seemingly the same hud, and config which is way too much of a coincidence.[/quote]
I got it from google images, I think that's hypnotize hud, I used toucahud/m0rehud in the video.
cukeiFireball7d7
All this being said, it is almost 100% certain that cukei was cheating before that one night of pugs -- maybe for months or years before, cheating over and over and over -- so even if the ban is for the wrong reason, he probably should have been permad anyways.
[/quote]All this being said, it is almost 100% certain that cukei was cheating before that one night of pugs -- maybe for months or years before, cheating over and over and over -- so even if the ban is for the wrong reason, he probably should have been permad anyways.