AimIsADickampereWhat do you mean by "players advocate that movements shouldn't be consistent"? I'm gonna go ahead and assume you're talking about consistency regarding being skilled with the game's mechanics.
Being consistent is about understanding the game from the mind to translate that into your gamesense and decision making/mechanical skills. You're misunderstanding and mixing the concepts of being consistent and moving unpredictably.
There are guides/people that say moving unpredictably is good, and I conflated consistency with predictable movement, but as you said I misconflated those two concepts.Makhttps://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/087/572/983.png
loldbki really enjoy reading these threads, brings a smile to my face
Same. :)
Sorry I feel the need to say…’misconflated’ isn’t a word..
[quote=AimIsADick][quote=ampere]What do you mean by "players advocate that movements shouldn't be consistent"? I'm gonna go ahead and assume you're talking about consistency regarding being skilled with the game's mechanics.
Being consistent is about understanding the game from the mind to translate that into your gamesense and decision making/mechanical skills. You're misunderstanding and mixing the concepts of being consistent and moving unpredictably.[/quote]
There are guides/people that say moving unpredictably is good, and I conflated consistency with predictable movement, but as you said I misconflated those two concepts.
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lol
[quote=dbk]i really enjoy reading these threads, brings a smile to my face[/quote]
Same. :)[/quote]
Sorry I feel the need to say…’misconflated’ isn’t a word..
Why is this guy not perma’d yet
Why is this guy not perma’d yet
flyingbuddySorry I feel the need to say…’misconflated’ isn’t a word..
mis- is a prefix that means wrongly or badly, so yes it is a (compound) word.
MegalodonConsistency is a good thing - Keeping you consistently banned, that is.
lithiumWhy is this guy not perma’d yet
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[quote=flyingbuddy]Sorry I feel the need to say…’misconflated’ isn’t a word..[/quote]
[url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MIS]mis- is a prefix that means wrongly or badly[/url], so yes it is a (compound) word.
[quote=Megalodon]Consistency is a good thing - Keeping you consistently banned, that is.[/quote]
[quote=lithium]Why is this guy not perma’d yet[/quote]
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AimIsADickflyingbuddySorry I feel the need to say…’misconflated’ isn’t a word..
mis- is a prefix that means wrongly or badly, so yes it is a (compound) word.MegalodonConsistency is a good thing - Keeping you consistently banned, that is.
lithiumWhy is this guy not perma’d yet
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I stand to be corrected because I’m certainly no expert…
It ‘technically’ is a word but you’ve used it in a really bizarre way because they mean the same thing…
[quote=AimIsADick][quote=flyingbuddy]Sorry I feel the need to say…’misconflated’ isn’t a word..[/quote]
[url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MIS]mis- is a prefix that means wrongly or badly[/url], so yes it is a (compound) word.
[quote=Megalodon]Consistency is a good thing - Keeping you consistently banned, that is.[/quote]
[quote=lithium]Why is this guy not perma’d yet[/quote]
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I stand to be corrected because I’m certainly no expert…
It ‘technically’ is a word but you’ve used it in a really bizarre way because they mean the same thing…
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I was questioning if consistency was always good in TF2.
flyingbuddyIt ‘technically’ is a word but you’ve used it in a really bizarre way because they mean the same thing…
They aren't the same though. To conflate means to blend; mis- is just a prefix for badly. So misconflate is to badly blend, while conflate is to merely blend.
(Who cares though amirite?)
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I was questioning if consistency was always good in TF2.
[quote=flyingbuddy]
It ‘technically’ is a word but you’ve used it in a really bizarre way because they mean the same thing…[/quote]
They aren't the same though. To conflate means to blend; mis- is just a prefix for badly. So misconflate is to badly blend, while conflate is to merely blend.
(Who cares though amirite?)
ofc its good, how is this even a question?
its ok to question universally agreed upon things, but people usually dont debate over them because if you spend 30 seconds of your time thinking about it, you realize why they are universally agreed upon.
ofc its good, how is this even a question?
its ok to question universally agreed upon things, but people usually dont debate over them because if you spend 30 seconds of your time thinking about it, you realize why they are universally agreed upon.
no one would ever write "mis-conflate," it's just awkward. the english language would read awfully if you could just type mis- in front of something every time you wanted to state the contrary. you can use any other word or phrasing to convey that you made a mistake in your thought process.
also, conflate often has a negative connotation, so "conflating" those two things would imply you're combining two things that don't usually combine, or combine poorly within that context, making the mis- completely useless. the way you're arguing your diction here leads me to believe you just heard conflate the other day and looked it up online, giving you a simple definition, but not a nuanced one. or, in other words, a mis-nuanced definition.
no one would ever write "mis-conflate," it's just awkward. the english language would read awfully if you could just type mis- in front of something every time you wanted to state the contrary. you can use any other word or phrasing to convey that you made a mistake in your thought process.
also, conflate often has a negative connotation, so "conflating" those two things would imply you're combining two things that don't usually combine, or combine poorly within that context, making the mis- completely useless. the way you're arguing your diction here leads me to believe you just heard conflate the other day and looked it up online, giving you a simple definition, but not a nuanced one. or, in other words, a mis-nuanced definition.
clckwrkno one would ever write "mis-conflate," it's just awkward. the english language would read awfully if you could just type mis- in front of something every time you wanted to state the contrary.
Yeah about that... Pretty sure prefixes in English work like that mate...
clckwrkalso, conflate often has a negative connotation, so "conflating" those two things would imply you're combining two things that don't usually combine, or combine poorly within that context, making the mis- completely useless. the way you're arguing your diction here leads me to believe you just heard conflate the other day and looked it up online, giving you a simple definition, but not a nuanced one. or, in other words, a mis-nuanced definition.
While it's usually fine to do so, it's not always a good idea to rely on connotation though.
In a philosophical argument for instance, the arguer may use conflate to describe words that are often blended together. They do not mean to say whether the blending is good or bad, so they merely say conflation. Conflation is not always to be bad implied bad though, so it is a bad idea to assume that the definition conflation in itself is bad. Thus the use of mis- to specify that a conflation was bad.
Another example is the term discrimination. When discrimination is used, it often refers to negative discrimination (like badly treating certain people). However not all forms of discrimination are negative; some are positive, like treating politicians better than corporations. It's usually fine to treat "discrimination" this way, but in some cases the context needs to be clarified.
NOTE: The corporations aren't being treated any worse, so this technically isn't a case of negative discrimination.
[quote=clckwrk]no one would ever write "mis-conflate," it's just awkward. the english language would read awfully if you could just type mis- in front of something every time you wanted to state the contrary.[/quote]
[url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MIS]Yeah about that...[/url] Pretty sure prefixes in English work like that mate...
[quote=clckwrk]also, conflate often has a negative connotation, so "conflating" those two things would imply you're combining two things that don't usually combine, or combine poorly within that context, making the mis- completely useless. the way you're arguing your diction here leads me to believe you just heard conflate the other day and looked it up online, giving you a simple definition, but not a nuanced one. or, in other words, a mis-nuanced definition.[/quote]
While it's usually fine to do so, it's not always a good idea to rely on connotation though.
In a philosophical argument for instance, the arguer may use conflate to describe words that are often blended together. They do not mean to say whether the blending is good or bad, so they merely say conflation. Conflation is not always to be bad implied bad though, so it is a bad idea to assume that the definition conflation in itself is bad. Thus the use of mis- to specify that a conflation was bad.
Another example is the term discrimination. When discrimination is used, it often refers to negative discrimination (like badly treating certain people). However not all forms of discrimination are negative; some are positive, like treating politicians better than corporations. It's usually fine to treat "discrimination" this way, but in some cases the context needs to be clarified.
NOTE: The corporations aren't being treated any worse, so this technically isn't a case of negative discrimination.
AimIsADickclckwrkno one would ever write "mis-conflate," it's just awkward. the english language would read awfully if you could just type mis- in front of something every time you wanted to state the contrary.
Yeah about that... Pretty sure prefixes in English work like that mate...
clckwrkalso, conflate often has a negative connotation, so "conflating" those two things would imply you're combining two things that don't usually combine, or combine poorly within that context, making the mis- completely useless. the way you're arguing your diction here leads me to believe you just heard conflate the other day and looked it up online, giving you a simple definition, but not a nuanced one. or, in other words, a mis-nuanced definition.
While it's usually fine to do so, it's not always a good idea to rely on connotation though.
In a philosophical argument for instance, the arguer may use conflate to describe words that are often blended together. They do not mean to say whether the blending is good or bad, so they merely say conflation. Conflation is not always to be bad implied bad though, so it is a bad idea to assume that the definition conflation in itself is bad. Thus the use of mis- to specify that a conflation was bad.
Another example is the term discrimination. When discrimination is used, it often refers to negative discrimination (like badly treating certain people). However not all forms of discrimination are negative; some are positive, like treating politicians better than corporations. It's usually fine to treat "discrimination" this way, but in some cases the context needs to be clarified.
NOTE: The corporations aren't being treated any worse, so this technically isn't a case of negative discrimination.
misdiscrimination
[quote=AimIsADick][quote=clckwrk]no one would ever write "mis-conflate," it's just awkward. the english language would read awfully if you could just type mis- in front of something every time you wanted to state the contrary.[/quote]
[url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MIS]Yeah about that...[/url] Pretty sure prefixes in English work like that mate...
[quote=clckwrk]also, conflate often has a negative connotation, so "conflating" those two things would imply you're combining two things that don't usually combine, or combine poorly within that context, making the mis- completely useless. the way you're arguing your diction here leads me to believe you just heard conflate the other day and looked it up online, giving you a simple definition, but not a nuanced one. or, in other words, a mis-nuanced definition.[/quote]
While it's usually fine to do so, it's not always a good idea to rely on connotation though.
In a philosophical argument for instance, the arguer may use conflate to describe words that are often blended together. They do not mean to say whether the blending is good or bad, so they merely say conflation. Conflation is not always to be bad implied bad though, so it is a bad idea to assume that the definition conflation in itself is bad. Thus the use of mis- to specify that a conflation was bad.
Another example is the term discrimination. When discrimination is used, it often refers to negative discrimination (like badly treating certain people). However not all forms of discrimination are negative; some are positive, like treating politicians better than corporations. It's usually fine to treat "discrimination" this way, but in some cases the context needs to be clarified.
NOTE: The corporations aren't being treated any worse, so this technically isn't a case of negative discrimination.[/quote]
misdiscrimination
dbkmisdiscrimination
negative discrimination
miscriminate (to maliciously criminalize)
[quote=dbk]misdiscrimination[/quote]
negative discrimination
miscriminate (to maliciously criminalize)
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Even in the article you linked, mis can also mean "not" or "opposite", so by saying misconflated you're just making it less clear what you actually mean. And you're acting like conflate is a neutral word that just means blend even though it has a negative connotation in 99.9% of cases.
So if the goal of language is effective communication, I think you've failed at that...
[quote=AimIsADick][/quote]
Even in the article you linked, mis can also mean "not" or "opposite", so by saying misconflated you're just making it less clear what you actually mean. And you're acting like conflate is a neutral word that just means blend even though it has a negative connotation in 99.9% of cases.
So if the goal of language is effective communication, I think you've failed at that...
what about misconsistency
what about misconsistency
fezEven in the article you linked, mis can also mean "not" or "opposite", so by saying misconflated you're just making it less clear what you actually mean.
How so? By the logic you imply, using words with multiple meanings (such as: arm, watch, and date) would make the meaning more vague, which isn't always the case so long as you specify the meaning intended.
fezAnd you're acting like conflate is a neutral word that just means blend even though it has a negative connotation in 99.9% of cases.
It's not always a good idea to rely on the implication of a word, because that may not always be what people refer to.
For instance if someone were to refer to racism in a general sense (as in the term "racism" alone), they are not just talking about white on black racism; they mean all forms of racism, like white on asian, black on white, white on indian, japanese on hispanic, and other kinds. However the implied meaning is white on black racism, because it's been the most prevalent form of racism, so the person may only or mostly think of white on black racism.
News corporations often use the implied meanings of words to manipulate readers into thinking a certain way; this is what I mean when I say it isn't always a good idea to use the implied meaning.
fezSo if the goal of language is effective communication, I think you've failed at that...
Oh really? What makes you think I suck at english just because I used the flexibility of prefixes?
What credibility do you have on this topic anyway? I don't recall you ever being a linguistics major or studying english.
[quote=fez]
Even in the article you linked, mis can also mean "not" or "opposite", so by saying misconflated you're just making it less clear what you actually mean.[/quote]
How so? By the logic you imply, using words with multiple meanings (such as: arm, watch, and date) would make the meaning more vague, which isn't always the case so long as you specify the meaning intended.
[quote=fez]And you're acting like conflate is a neutral word that just means blend even though it has a negative connotation in 99.9% of cases.[/quote]
It's not always a good idea to rely on the implication of a word, because that may not always be what people refer to.
For instance if someone were to refer to racism in a general sense (as in the term "racism" alone), they are not just talking about white on black racism; they mean all forms of racism, like white on asian, black on white, white on indian, japanese on hispanic, and other kinds. However the implied meaning is white on black racism, because it's been the most prevalent form of racism, so the person may only or mostly think of white on black racism.
News corporations often use the implied meanings of words to manipulate readers into thinking a certain way; this is what I mean when I say it isn't always a good idea to use the implied meaning.
[quote=fez]So if the goal of language is effective communication, I think you've failed at that...[/quote]
Oh really? What makes you think I suck at english just because I used the flexibility of prefixes?
What credibility do you have on this topic anyway? I don't recall you ever being a linguistics major or studying english.
“What credibility do you have on this topic anyway?”
…Maybe you should start asking yourself this question…
“What credibility do you have on this topic anyway?”
…Maybe you should start asking yourself this question…
flyingbuddy“What credibility do you have on this topic anyway?”
…Maybe you should start asking yourself this question…
While I have no credibility on this topic, since I have not studied english at a high level, I can say the same thing to you and everyone in this thread, because I have not seen any proof that y'all are credible on the topic of english.
[quote=flyingbuddy]“What credibility do you have on this topic anyway?”
…Maybe you should start asking yourself this question…[/quote]
While I have no credibility on this topic, since I have not studied english at a high level, I can say the same thing to you and everyone in this thread, because I have not seen any proof that y'all are credible on the topic of english.
i write for a living. ur dumb
i write for a living. ur dumb
I worry about the consistency of your brain, OP.
I worry about the consistency of your brain, OP.
elektrowhat do u write flatline
:think:
[quote=elektro]what do u write flatline[/quote]
:think:
AimIsADickflyingbuddy“What credibility do you have on this topic anyway?”
…Maybe you should start asking yourself this question…
While I have no credibility on this topic, since I have not studied english at a high level, I can say the same thing to you and everyone in this thread, because I have not seen any proof that y'all are credible on the topic of english.
Mate this is getting embarrassing. One does not need to be a linguistics professor to tell you that the hill you are dying on is a dumb one. I have never read or heard the term misconflate in any literature. Whilst I am sure there is some fringe example, a prefix isn't something you just throw on the back of any random word to imply an alternative. You've cited Mirriam-Webster as a source for your claims but failed to check if the word 'misconflate' is even in there (Spoilers: It isn't).
I don't think you are a bad guy, but your attitude in these threads comes off as if you think you know more than you actually do. You fail to recognise when you are in the wrong and engage in borderline pseudo-intellectualism on a video game forum. It's not a good look, bro.
[quote=AimIsADick][quote=flyingbuddy]“What credibility do you have on this topic anyway?”
…Maybe you should start asking yourself this question…[/quote]
While I have no credibility on this topic, since I have not studied english at a high level, I can say the same thing to you and everyone in this thread, because I have not seen any proof that y'all are credible on the topic of english.[/quote]
Mate this is getting embarrassing. One does not need to be a linguistics professor to tell you that the hill you are dying on is a dumb one. I have never read or heard the term misconflate in any literature. Whilst I am sure there is some fringe example, a prefix isn't something you just throw on the back of any random word to imply an alternative. You've cited Mirriam-Webster as a source for your claims but failed to check if the word 'misconflate' is even in there (Spoilers: It isn't).
I don't think you are a bad guy, but your attitude in these threads comes off as if you think you know more than you actually do. You fail to recognise when you are in the wrong and engage in borderline pseudo-intellectualism on a video game forum. It's not a good look, bro.
How are people who are active on this forum STILL being baited by this guy?
How are people who are active on this forum STILL being baited by this guy?
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this man derails literally every single thread he posts in with nonsense jargon and people are still like
flyingbuddyI don’t think you’re genuinely trying to ‘troll’ anyone in your posts.
He has spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to ruin the mastercomfig thread with page after page of people trying to interpret his bullshit. permaban him for fuck's sake.
he's just a tf2 version of this guy and somehow you people haven't figured it out yet
this man derails literally every single thread he posts in with nonsense jargon and people are still like
[quote=flyingbuddy]I don’t think you’re genuinely trying to ‘troll’ anyone in your posts.[/quote]
He has spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to ruin the mastercomfig thread with page after page of people trying to interpret his bullshit. permaban him for fuck's sake.
he's just a tf2 version of [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w]this guy[/url] and somehow you people haven't figured it out yet
DrHappinessMate this is getting embarrassing. One does not need to be a linguistics professor to tell you that the hill you are dying on is a dumb one.
Explain.
DrHappinessI have never read or heard the term misconflate in any literature. Whilst I am sure there is some fringe example, a prefix isn't something you just throw on the back of any random word to imply an alternative.
That is exactly what a prefix is meant to do though... Also just because a word has not been used a lot does not mean it does not exist.
DrHappinessYou've cited Mirriam-Webster as a source for your claims but failed to check if the word 'misconflate' is even in there (Spoilers: It isn't).
Yeah because misconflate is a compound word, not a singular one. Also Just because a term isn't defined in a dictionary does not mean it doesn't exist.
DrHappinessI don't think you are a bad guy, but your attitude in these threads comes off as if you think you know more than you actually do.
I don't know shit about english so in this particular case you're probably correct. However I have doubt that you actually even know shit about linguistics, because knowledge in a field is required in order to debate properly.
DrHappinessYou fail to recognise when you are in the wrong and engage in borderline pseudo-intellectualism on a video game forum. It's not a good look, bro.
Give me examples.
Menachemthis man derails literally every single thread he posts in with nonsense jargon and people are still likeflyingbuddyI don’t think you’re genuinely trying to ‘troll’ anyone in your posts.
He has spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to ruin the mastercomfig thread with page after page of people trying to interpret his bullshit. permaban him for fuck's sake.
he's just a tf2 version of this guy and somehow you people haven't figured it out yet
I'm not trying to troll anyone or ruin mastercomfig. Where did you get that claim?
(Why did I ask this question in this forum to begin with? I should have just went on a language forum...)
[quote=DrHappiness]
Mate this is getting embarrassing. One does not need to be a linguistics professor to tell you that the hill you are dying on is a dumb one.[/quote]
Explain.
[quote=DrHappiness]I have never read or heard the term misconflate in any literature. Whilst I am sure there is some fringe example, a prefix isn't something you just throw on the back of any random word to imply an alternative.[/quote]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix]That is exactly what a prefix is meant to do though...[/url] Also just because a word has not been used a lot does not mean it does not exist.
[quote=DrHappiness]You've cited Mirriam-Webster as a source for your claims but failed to check if the word 'misconflate' is even in there (Spoilers: It isn't).[/quote]
Yeah because misconflate is a [i]compound[/i] word, not a singular one. Also Just because a term isn't defined in a dictionary does not mean it doesn't exist.
[quote=DrHappiness]I don't think you are a bad guy, but your attitude in these threads comes off as if you think you know more than you actually do.[/quote]
I don't know shit about english so in this particular case you're probably correct. However I have doubt that you actually even know shit about linguistics, because knowledge in a field is required in order to debate properly.
[quote=DrHappiness]You fail to recognise when you are in the wrong and engage in borderline pseudo-intellectualism on a video game forum. It's not a good look, bro.[/quote]
Give me examples.
[quote=Menachem]this man derails literally every single thread he posts in with nonsense jargon and people are still like
[quote=flyingbuddy]I don’t think you’re genuinely trying to ‘troll’ anyone in your posts.[/quote]
He has spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to ruin the mastercomfig thread with page after page of people trying to interpret his bullshit. permaban him for fuck's sake.
he's just a tf2 version of [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w]this guy[/url] and somehow you people haven't figured it out yet[/quote]
I'm not trying to troll anyone or ruin mastercomfig. Where did you get that claim?
(Why did I ask this question in this forum to begin with? I should have just went on a language forum...)
hello everyone i will help settle this epic debate
conflate is best understood in modern day use as a portmanteau of confuse & inflate (a definition or a concept). "inadvertent" mixing of concepts tends to be followed in its modern definition.
the etymology points to it as just a mix of concepts, not necessarily one that is confused: https://archives.cjr.org/language_corner/language_corner_020915.php
sometimes language usage just develops ironically like that lol, usually from a need to express a complex sentiment in a way that wasn't previously prolific or, from hindsight, an evaluation of the irony of its previous usage. sometimes it's just the works of a really popular writer that bring an ironic nuance to a previously neutral word. shakespeare did this with many words. euphemisms, as a concept, are another great example of this.
i hope that helps
sincerely
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hello everyone i will help settle this epic debate
conflate is best understood in modern day use as a portmanteau of confuse & inflate (a definition or a concept). "inadvertent" mixing of concepts tends to be followed in its modern definition.
the etymology points to it as just a mix of concepts, not necessarily one that is confused: https://archives.cjr.org/language_corner/language_corner_020915.php
sometimes language usage just develops ironically like that lol, usually from a need to express a complex sentiment in a way that wasn't previously prolific or, from hindsight, an evaluation of the irony of its previous usage. sometimes it's just the works of a really popular writer that bring an ironic nuance to a previously neutral word. shakespeare did this with many words. euphemisms, as a concept, are another great example of this.
i hope that helps
sincerely
forum poster
fellas is it bad to be good at the video game all the time
fellas is it bad to be good at the video game all the time