Soldier

demo

medic frag vids where they do some crazy survival shit goes hard too

Airshots>Meatshots

There are bunch of amazing top level scout frag videos, but for every scout frag vid, there are 10 equally as impressive soldier frag videos.

i like when the pipe goes all the way up then starts to arc down a little and hits something

demoman frags are better than all others

I like scout frags where they meatshot rocket jumping soldiers, its makes the soldier levitate for a couple of seconds and it looks very aesthetic

for example, quad levitating a soldier at badlands mid
https://youtu.be/ffEATi05k1M?t=79

Cheating fragmovie

the best ever scout movies > the best ever soldier movie
average soldier movie >>>>> average scout movie

idk i didnt see any scout frags in the best airshots of all time

not in the options, but some spy frag movies are mind-blowing

look up klown tf2, and u'll die

The only impressive scout clips are 2-for-1s

or 90 lg

IMO, Scout fragmovies are more impressive because hitting center mass on fast moving targets consistently is something that I will never myself do.

However, Soldier/Demo frags are cooler looking and more entertaining.

idk I was only ever really impressed by quad pistol scout when I was like 16 and first found out you can track things with your mouse

i think doing 600 damage looks cool on any class

Vast majority of soldier vids have like 2 or 3 cool airshots and then the rest is filler. You're just sitting there watching mediocre single airshots (that you've seen a thousand times before) and waiting for the next good clip to start. I lose interest quickly

Then there's lots of scout vids from players like corsa, cookye, yz50, etc. which are consistently fun to watch throughout the whole length of the video. And nothing is better than watching AMS or clockwork +forward and spawncamp the whole enemy team on their own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHOyHoP2Ho&t=92s

This vid is like 10 years old and I've still never seen anything as impressive in TF2 as his tracking on the scout and medic at 1:36

Literally anyone can hit a lucky airshot or series of meatshots by randomly flailing their mouse around. How many players could track like quad could?

thats cap your honor

ok boomer

No arguments? Not surprised

And remember quad was doing this before 120+ hz LCD monitors went mainstream, and before modern ultra-light and ultra-accurate mice

He was basically sitting in a cave playing TF2 with sticks and rocks. And he was doing things kids these days still can't do, even with their $200 finalmouse and 1000 hours in kovaaks aim trainer

You're free to disagree, but I'm right.

so true it must have been tough playing by candlelight

this post is super funny because the old player hero worship and “kids these days” attitude makes you sound old enough to remember it. but there is no way you could write that with a straight face if you did

I think a lot of scout frag movies are kinda meh because they are just cleanup, shooting people in the back or holding W while ubered and meatshotting enemies.

But when they are actual dming people that are looking at them and shooting back, using great aim and movement, it´s just as impressive as airshots I´d say.

Let me put this in terms you can understand

https://i.imgur.com/IMtoAZ9.jpg

On a serious note, I don't even know why you're turning this into an argument/getting defensive? The thread literally asks what looks more impressive. It's an inherently subjective question and you're nerding out about a player you (rightfully!) admire.

Also if we are talking media and our enjoyment of media, historical context is, in my opinion, irrelevant. Yes, I can watch a Reptile fragmovie from way back and that is technically impressive given the context in which he was playing, but I wouldn't say I enjoy watching him hit single airshots on players that did not know how to strafe yet. I would rather watch Soapymeister consistently hit nutty airshots on the best players in the world right now because that speaks to my imagination. That is the current peak of tf2 and that is what I find impressive currently. The bar will keep shifting, shots we found impressive ages ago look bland now etc. Nobody here is arguing quad's tracking isn't impressive especially given the time, but that doesn't mean I find it as impressive or enjoyable to watch as toemas's granary expert video.

Interesting thesis, professor. Highest div played?

10 years of open

Yeah no the argument about what hz quad played on is pointless, everyone was playing on the same tech back then lmfao. You're typing as though he was a 60hz warrior in a 240hz world. Yes quad's tracking is immensely impressive for that time period, but so is almost every other scout's from back then? Why don't you suck off cookye and others while you're at it? It's not like quad was a goliath on a massive pedestal who was incomparably good compared to the rest. The reason "kids these days" can't track like that in tf2 anymore is because of how the movement in this game has evolved. The higher hz makes literally 0 difference to how easy it is to track when soldiers are flying through the sky at lightspeed and other classes aren't moving like roombas. People's movement isn't trackable anymore, you will still see rare cases where players can track, sure, but the only time tracking is viable for the majority in team fortress 2 nowadays is when the enemy's movement is pathetically easy to read. What makes you any more qualified to judge and post opinions than others in this thread? What div would you be if you played now? Why does you being prem like 7 years ago give your opinion any more weight than a div1 player now? Etc.

ppl be like look at this quad clip where he hits CRAZY pistol!!! no no dont actually pay attention to the damage numbers in the clip that reveal he hits 4/12 pistol clip 3 times in a row.