it's not solely him, but i just think it's crazy to get this mad, EVERY SINGLE DAY, and to top it all off willingly about somethin so smoll
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it's not solely him, but i just think it's crazy to get this mad, EVERY SINGLE DAY, and to top it all off willingly about somethin so smoll
ElenaManettaI'm not even in PugHub, and I'm betting that he's at least 65% of the reason why pugs fill up so frequently at night.
I got banned from pughub for telling a dude to go touch grass, turned out he was the ceo of pughub discord. I could give a shit less about playing this game. people didn't join mIRC pugs back in the day(2009-2012?) to play with b4nny, it was lots of invite players playing in those late-night pugs. fuck idolizing some schmuck, I idolized carnage and he doesn't give a shit about me. all these top players care about is winning, even in pugs, and no one at the top will go out of their way to bring in lower skilled players, play with them to raise them up to their level. who gives a fuck about some fucking pug. that dude in the video della who wasn't talking, I played with him and he raged the fuck at me cause I didn't know what I was doing, I was forced to play medic, a class I have no understanding of and these dudes take these pugs seriously, all of them. you want the fucking problem, it's literally their culture and its all of them, not just b4nny.
edit: I don't know why my post is within the quote. fixed it
[quote=ElenaManetta]I'm not even in PugHub, and I'm betting that he's at least 65% of the reason why pugs fill up so frequently at night.[/quote]
I got banned from pughub for telling a dude to go touch grass, turned out he was the ceo of pughub discord. I could give a shit less about playing this game. people didn't join mIRC pugs back in the day(2009-2012?) to play with b4nny, it was lots of invite players playing in those late-night pugs. fuck idolizing some schmuck, I idolized carnage and he doesn't give a shit about me. all these top players care about is winning, even in pugs, and no one at the top will go out of their way to bring in lower skilled players, play with them to raise them up to their level. who gives a fuck about some fucking pug. that dude in the video della who wasn't talking, I played with him and he raged the fuck at me cause I didn't know what I was doing, I was forced to play medic, a class I have no understanding of and these dudes take these pugs seriously, all of them. you want the fucking problem, it's literally their culture and its all of them, not just b4nny.
edit: I don't know why my post is within the quote. fixed it
I got banned from pughub for telling a dude to go touch grass, turned out he was the ceo of pughub discord. I could give a shit less about playing this game. people didn't join mIRC pugs back in the day(2009-2012?) to play with b4nny, it was lots of invite players playing in those late-night pugs. fuck idolizing some schmuck, I idolized carnage and he doesn't give a shit about me. all these top players care about is winning, even in pugs, and no one at the top will go out of their way to bring in lower skilled players, play with them to raise them up to their level. who gives a fuck about some fucking pug. that dude in the video della who wasn't talking, I played with him and he raged the fuck at me cause I didn't know what I was doing, I was forced to play medic, a class I have no understanding of and these dudes take these pugs seriously, all of them. you want the fucking problem, it's literally their culture and its all of them, not just b4nny.
edit: I don't know why my post is within the quote. fixed it
funhaver1998it's not solely him, but i just think it's crazy to get this mad, EVERY SINGLE DAY, and to top it all off willingly about somethin so smoll
no it acc makes sense dude. if he had a real life job, real life commitments and real things to think and worry about, he wouldnt care. like, you cant get angry over petty game stuff when you have actual things going on
[quote=funhaver1998]it's not solely him, but i just think it's crazy to get this mad, EVERY SINGLE DAY, and to top it all off willingly about somethin so smoll[/quote]
no it acc makes sense dude. if he had a real life job, real life commitments and real things to think and worry about, he wouldnt care. like, you cant get angry over petty game stuff when you have actual things going on
no it acc makes sense dude. if he had a real life job, real life commitments and real things to think and worry about, he wouldnt care. like, you cant get angry over petty game stuff when you have actual things going on
wax
theres like 5000 people who do the same shit and don't even have the tf2 success to back it up. the vast majority are of people in this game or on this shit.
it's only a shock/thread worthy to comment on it when baniel does it because he is expected to act professionally
[quote=wax] [/quote]
theres like 5000 people who do the same shit and don't even have the tf2 success to back it up. the vast majority are of people in this game or on this shit.
it's only a shock/thread worthy to comment on it when baniel does it because he is expected to act professionally
theres like 5000 people who do the same shit and don't even have the tf2 success to back it up. the vast majority are of people in this game or on this shit.
it's only a shock/thread worthy to comment on it when baniel does it because he is expected to act professionally
funhaver1998wax
theres like 5000 people who do the same shit and don't even have the tf2 success to back it up. the vast majority are of people in this game or on this shit.
it's only a shock/thread worthy to comment on it when baniel does it because he is expected to act professionally
i dont think anyone is denying that tons of other people whine just as hard as banny does, its just that those people get much more easily punished (banned muted pug restricted etc) when they complain. think of how staff of things like pughub treat people like young sanity (who is even more annoying than banny, fair enough) compared to him
[quote=funhaver1998][quote=wax] [/quote]
theres like 5000 people who do the same shit and don't even have the tf2 success to back it up. the vast majority are of people in this game or on this shit.
it's only a shock/thread worthy to comment on it when baniel does it because he is expected to act professionally[/quote]
i dont think anyone is denying that tons of other people whine just as hard as banny does, its just that those people get much more easily punished (banned muted pug restricted etc) when they complain. think of how staff of things like pughub treat people like young sanity (who is even more annoying than banny, fair enough) compared to him
theres like 5000 people who do the same shit and don't even have the tf2 success to back it up. the vast majority are of people in this game or on this shit.
it's only a shock/thread worthy to comment on it when baniel does it because he is expected to act professionally[/quote]
i dont think anyone is denying that tons of other people whine just as hard as banny does, its just that those people get much more easily punished (banned muted pug restricted etc) when they complain. think of how staff of things like pughub treat people like young sanity (who is even more annoying than banny, fair enough) compared to him
indecency
i thought it was pretty obvious i was referring to the fact that pugs are literally twice as active when he adds up, a lot of these posts talk about how he's actively killing pugs which just shows a complete lack of experience
i definitely understand what you mean, and it's not like I always enjoy playing with or against him - but you cant deny people are literally adding up until 7am, with b pugs going until 3am most nights when he plays
most people can just laugh at his frustration and move on
[quote=indecency][/quote]
i thought it was pretty obvious i was referring to the fact that pugs are literally twice as active when he adds up, a lot of these posts talk about how he's actively killing pugs which just shows a complete lack of experience
i definitely understand what you mean, and it's not like I always enjoy playing with or against him - but you cant deny people are literally adding up until 7am, with b pugs going until 3am most nights when he plays
most people can just laugh at his frustration and move on
i thought it was pretty obvious i was referring to the fact that pugs are literally twice as active when he adds up, a lot of these posts talk about how he's actively killing pugs which just shows a complete lack of experience
i definitely understand what you mean, and it's not like I always enjoy playing with or against him - but you cant deny people are literally adding up until 7am, with b pugs going until 3am most nights when he plays
most people can just laugh at his frustration and move on
crackbabydumpsterElenaManettaI had a pug group where I personally invited you to join every time I announced for people to add up and you denied it 70% of the time to play PugHub. The group also had strict fat kid rules where I made it so you only got fatkidded once a day and you couldn't get fatkidded again-- but you still often picked PugHub over them.
I'm going to guess you denied it because it was mostly Main with some Advanced players, and you wanted to play with mostly Advanced+top level players, and that's fine, you can choose to play with higher level players. But a lot of Advanced want to play with Invite players, and Invite plays with b4nny.
I'm not even in PugHub, and I'm betting that he's at least 65% of the reason why pugs fill up so frequently at night. You can't just ban him without the trickling effect of, "Now less Invite players join, which causes less Advanced players to join, which means the group needs to pull in Main players just to fill up" and we go right back to the situation of you not wanting to join those pugs, either.
what lol youre so close to understanding it but it's not that everyone wants to play with banny its just that most people wanna play the best pugs they can and since he's the bestest tf2 player or whatever he's always going to be in the best pugs if he's playing.
you cant be mad indecency doesnt wanna drop down to ur main level pug group where bad players cant even get fatkidded when he adds up to pugchamp very clearly to play demo against the best people he can
just piggybacking off what he said, but thats literally all it is and the crazy part is ive said this like 10 separate times already, i just wanna play the damn game man so obviously im gonna go to wherever more people are, theres so many times ur pugs would have 3/12 and pughub would have 6/12 but everyone would rather just not play instead of coming there, idgi, not to mention i personally have no prob with main players but i notice a trend with most of them where it just seems like they refuse to get better from feedback i give them and their definition of fun is either throwing or doing plain dumb shit which im not with at all such as winning 4-0 and now the 15 min roll turns into a full 30 min game cause some retard wants to go DH or airstrike and die constantly and hearing "im just havin fun man :D" or just simply give of the vibe of not trying not saying this doesent happen in pugchamp because it does which is why im a pug leaver but its WAYYYYYYY more common in main and lower
my first priority is to play the fkn game and win yes of course, but my second priority is having it not be a waste of my damn time, like im bad and given the time ive played but one thing is that i dont throw and that was the main demographic of ur pugs most of the time
[quote=crackbabydumpster][quote=ElenaManetta]
I had a pug group where I personally invited you to join every time I announced for people to add up and you denied it 70% of the time to play PugHub. The group also had strict fat kid rules where I made it so you only got fatkidded once a day and you couldn't get fatkidded again-- but you still often picked PugHub over them.
I'm going to guess you denied it because it was mostly Main with some Advanced players, and you wanted to play with mostly Advanced+top level players, and that's fine, you can choose to play with higher level players. But a lot of Advanced want to play with Invite players, and Invite plays with b4nny.
I'm not even in PugHub, and I'm betting that he's at least 65% of the reason why pugs fill up so frequently at night. You can't just ban him without the trickling effect of, "Now less Invite players join, which causes less Advanced players to join, which means the group needs to pull in Main players just to fill up" and we go right back to the situation of you not wanting to join those pugs, either.[/quote]
what lol youre so close to understanding it but it's not that everyone wants to play with banny its just that most people wanna play the best pugs they can and since he's the bestest tf2 player or whatever he's always going to be in the best pugs if he's playing.
you cant be mad indecency doesnt wanna drop down to ur main level pug group where bad players cant even get fatkidded when he adds up to pugchamp very clearly to play demo against the best people he can[/quote]
just piggybacking off what he said, but thats literally all it is and the crazy part is ive said this like 10 separate times already, i just wanna play the damn game man so obviously im gonna go to wherever more people are, theres so many times ur pugs would have 3/12 and pughub would have 6/12 but everyone would rather just not play instead of coming there, idgi, not to mention i personally have no prob with main players but i notice a trend with most of them where it just seems like they refuse to get better from feedback i give them and their definition of fun is either throwing or doing plain dumb shit which im not with at all such as winning 4-0 and now the 15 min roll turns into a full 30 min game cause some retard wants to go DH or airstrike and die constantly and hearing "im just havin fun man :D" or just simply give of the vibe of not trying not saying this doesent happen in pugchamp because it does which is why im a pug leaver but its WAYYYYYYY more common in main and lower
my first priority is to play the fkn game and win yes of course, but my second priority is having it not be a waste of my damn time, like im bad and given the time ive played but one thing is that i dont throw and that was the main demographic of ur pugs most of the time
I had a pug group where I personally invited you to join every time I announced for people to add up and you denied it 70% of the time to play PugHub. The group also had strict fat kid rules where I made it so you only got fatkidded once a day and you couldn't get fatkidded again-- but you still often picked PugHub over them.
I'm going to guess you denied it because it was mostly Main with some Advanced players, and you wanted to play with mostly Advanced+top level players, and that's fine, you can choose to play with higher level players. But a lot of Advanced want to play with Invite players, and Invite plays with b4nny.
I'm not even in PugHub, and I'm betting that he's at least 65% of the reason why pugs fill up so frequently at night. You can't just ban him without the trickling effect of, "Now less Invite players join, which causes less Advanced players to join, which means the group needs to pull in Main players just to fill up" and we go right back to the situation of you not wanting to join those pugs, either.[/quote]
what lol youre so close to understanding it but it's not that everyone wants to play with banny its just that most people wanna play the best pugs they can and since he's the bestest tf2 player or whatever he's always going to be in the best pugs if he's playing.
you cant be mad indecency doesnt wanna drop down to ur main level pug group where bad players cant even get fatkidded when he adds up to pugchamp very clearly to play demo against the best people he can[/quote]
just piggybacking off what he said, but thats literally all it is and the crazy part is ive said this like 10 separate times already, i just wanna play the damn game man so obviously im gonna go to wherever more people are, theres so many times ur pugs would have 3/12 and pughub would have 6/12 but everyone would rather just not play instead of coming there, idgi, not to mention i personally have no prob with main players but i notice a trend with most of them where it just seems like they refuse to get better from feedback i give them and their definition of fun is either throwing or doing plain dumb shit which im not with at all such as winning 4-0 and now the 15 min roll turns into a full 30 min game cause some retard wants to go DH or airstrike and die constantly and hearing "im just havin fun man :D" or just simply give of the vibe of not trying not saying this doesent happen in pugchamp because it does which is why im a pug leaver but its WAYYYYYYY more common in main and lower
my first priority is to play the fkn game and win yes of course, but my second priority is having it not be a waste of my damn time, like im bad and given the time ive played but one thing is that i dont throw and that was the main demographic of ur pugs most of the time
indecencybut i notice a trend with most of them where it just seems like they refuse to get better and their definition of fun is either throwing or doing plain dumb shit which im not with at all such as winning 4-0 and now the 15 min roll turns into a full 30 min game cause some retard wants to go DH or airstrike and die constantly and hearing "im just havin fun man :D" or just simply give of the vibe of not trying
To play devil's advocate, a soldier who isn't calling his bombs or damage in pugs after three rounds in could be considered throwing, which is what pissed off b4nny. People don't to hear someone complaining and prefer he doesn't hold down push-to-talk, that's understandable. But you're saying, "I want to play pugs where people don't throw" all while the discussion is centered around a specific pug where soldiers weren't calling their bombs or damage. b4nny could stop playing pugs tomorrow, you're still going to get pugs with subtle throwers like that.
You want pugs that are high-level, you don't want to be fatkidded, and you don't want to play with malders. That doesn't exist, and wouldn't exist even with several active pug groups. So I don't know what the end goal of this thread is other than to dunk on b4nny.
[quote=indecency]but i notice a trend with most of them where it just seems like they refuse to get better and their definition of fun is either throwing or doing plain dumb shit which im not with at all such as winning 4-0 and now the 15 min roll turns into a full 30 min game cause some retard wants to go DH or airstrike and die constantly and hearing "im just havin fun man :D" or just simply give of the vibe of not trying[/quote]
To play devil's advocate, a soldier who isn't calling his bombs or damage in pugs after three rounds in could be considered throwing, which is what pissed off b4nny. People don't to hear someone complaining and prefer he doesn't hold down push-to-talk, that's understandable. But you're saying, "I want to play pugs where people don't throw" all while the discussion is centered around a specific pug where soldiers weren't calling their bombs or damage. b4nny could stop playing pugs tomorrow, you're still going to get pugs with subtle throwers like that.
You want pugs that are high-level, you don't want to be fatkidded, and you don't want to play with malders. That doesn't exist, and wouldn't exist even with several active pug groups. So I don't know what the end goal of this thread is other than to dunk on b4nny.
To play devil's advocate, a soldier who isn't calling his bombs or damage in pugs after three rounds in could be considered throwing, which is what pissed off b4nny. People don't to hear someone complaining and prefer he doesn't hold down push-to-talk, that's understandable. But you're saying, "I want to play pugs where people don't throw" all while the discussion is centered around a specific pug where soldiers weren't calling their bombs or damage. b4nny could stop playing pugs tomorrow, you're still going to get pugs with subtle throwers like that.
You want pugs that are high-level, you don't want to be fatkidded, and you don't want to play with malders. That doesn't exist, and wouldn't exist even with several active pug groups. So I don't know what the end goal of this thread is other than to dunk on b4nny.
if u just mute b4nny like he mutes you its like hes not there and you can pretend you're having fun
if u just mute b4nny like he mutes you its like hes not there and you can pretend you're having fun
NA having 1 pug server for higher divs is the bigger issue here I think
NA having 1 pug server for higher divs is the bigger issue here I think
indecencyhttps://youtu.be/8Cok5VKAwMM?t=889
thoughts?
can we do somethin about this guy in pughub man
I feel like this problem is solveable by admins looking at the video/taking reports and deciding if this is a breach of the pug groups rules or not. I don't exactly know the rules of this group, but at the very worst you'd maybe warn b4nny for some language depending how you view it but I don't see how you'd ban him for this stuff, but I only watched 5 minutes of the video, it's a matter for the admins to decide as it's their group.
Personally I don't get how you can play a Pug at 3am not want to be drunk and/or trolling but each to their own.
[quote=indecency]https://youtu.be/8Cok5VKAwMM?t=889
thoughts?
can we do somethin about this guy in pughub man[/quote]
I feel like this problem is solveable by admins looking at the video/taking reports and deciding if this is a breach of the pug groups rules or not. I don't exactly know the rules of this group, but at the very worst you'd maybe warn b4nny for some language depending how you view it but I don't see how you'd ban him for this stuff, but I only watched 5 minutes of the video, it's a matter for the admins to decide as it's their group.
Personally I don't get how you can play a Pug at 3am not want to be drunk and/or trolling but each to their own.
thoughts?
can we do somethin about this guy in pughub man[/quote]
I feel like this problem is solveable by admins looking at the video/taking reports and deciding if this is a breach of the pug groups rules or not. I don't exactly know the rules of this group, but at the very worst you'd maybe warn b4nny for some language depending how you view it but I don't see how you'd ban him for this stuff, but I only watched 5 minutes of the video, it's a matter for the admins to decide as it's their group.
Personally I don't get how you can play a Pug at 3am not want to be drunk and/or trolling but each to their own.
bros pushing 30, whens he gonna be starting a family instead of trying to win b-pugs and complaining about coordinating soldier bombs at his big age
bros pushing 30, whens he gonna be starting a family instead of trying to win b-pugs and complaining about coordinating soldier bombs at his big age
ElenaManettaTo play devil's advocate, a soldier who isn't calling his bombs or damage in pugs after three rounds in could be considered throwing, which is what pissed off b4nny.
I just forgot that one time lol
shoutout youtube.com/officerreekz
[quote=ElenaManetta]
To play devil's advocate, a soldier who isn't calling his bombs or damage in pugs after three rounds in could be considered throwing, which is what pissed off b4nny. [/quote]
I just forgot that one time lol
shoutout youtube.com/officerreekz
To play devil's advocate, a soldier who isn't calling his bombs or damage in pugs after three rounds in could be considered throwing, which is what pissed off b4nny. [/quote]
I just forgot that one time lol
shoutout youtube.com/officerreekz
ElenaManetta...
infy, you have some of the weirdest takes...
[quote=ElenaManetta]...[/quote]
infy, you have some of the weirdest takes...
infy, you have some of the weirdest takes...
HildrethPersonally I don't get how you can play a Pug at 3am not want to be drunk and/or trolling but each to their own.
He just like me fr
[quote=Hildreth]
Personally I don't get how you can play a Pug at 3am not want to be drunk and/or trolling but each to their own.[/quote]
He just like me fr
Personally I don't get how you can play a Pug at 3am not want to be drunk and/or trolling but each to their own.[/quote]
He just like me fr
For someone who has played at least 7000 pugs by now, my goal has always been to play to win because to me winning is fun and losing isn't. And I know to some people having fun in a pug is actively feeding, not communicating with their teammates, or just run funny weapons like Force-A-Nature, Shortstop, Air Strike, Direct Hit, or Loose Cannon. To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up (winning Invite for many seasons, winning many LANs (both national and intercontinental)), but also the fact that it wouldn't have mattered if I brought up my frustrations at them because they wouldn't give a damn about what I have to say. I agree b4nny can be very aggressive in pugs when he sees someone is making mistakes but I definitely enjoy playing pugs with him in it more than the average pugs because I just want to play at the highest level. Keep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.
For someone who has played at least 7000 pugs by now, my goal has always been to play to win because to me winning is fun and losing isn't. And I know to some people having fun in a pug is actively feeding, not communicating with their teammates, or just run funny weapons like Force-A-Nature, Shortstop, Air Strike, Direct Hit, or Loose Cannon. To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up (winning Invite for many seasons, winning many LANs (both national and intercontinental)), but also the fact that it wouldn't have mattered if I brought up my frustrations at them because they wouldn't give a damn about what I have to say. I agree b4nny can be very aggressive in pugs when he sees someone is making mistakes but I definitely enjoy playing pugs with him in it more than the average pugs because I just want to play at the highest level. Keep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.
indecencyhttps://youtu.be/8Cok5VKAwMM?t=889
thoughts?
can we do somethin about this guy in pughub man
hannahAnyways all I’m saying is that if this guy had the skill of a main player and treated people like this he would’ve been banned long ago.
Case and point me kinda. I rarely added up to pug hub and one day cerby @ in faceit chat to add up I said,"erm no..." and he perma banned me for that. B4nny will forever be untouchable in pug hub because the admins if I can remember correctly want to focus on the Inv-Adv category of the community(at least from what I remember when I was runner). I remember pug hub showing heavy favoritism towards higher level players. I remember all the reports I made on high level players throwing and doing shit that was so breaking rules would just get ignored.
[quote=indecency]https://youtu.be/8Cok5VKAwMM?t=889
thoughts?
can we do somethin about this guy in pughub man[/quote]
[quote=hannah]Anyways all I’m saying is that if this guy had the skill of a main player and treated people like this he would’ve been banned long ago.[/quote]
Case and point me kinda. I rarely added up to pug hub and one day cerby @ in faceit chat to add up I said,"erm no..." and he perma banned me for that. B4nny will forever be untouchable in pug hub because the admins if I can remember correctly want to focus on the Inv-Adv category of the community(at least from what I remember when I was runner). I remember pug hub showing heavy favoritism towards higher level players. I remember all the reports I made on high level players throwing and doing shit that was so breaking rules would just get ignored.
thoughts?
can we do somethin about this guy in pughub man[/quote]
[quote=hannah]Anyways all I’m saying is that if this guy had the skill of a main player and treated people like this he would’ve been banned long ago.[/quote]
Case and point me kinda. I rarely added up to pug hub and one day cerby @ in faceit chat to add up I said,"erm no..." and he perma banned me for that. B4nny will forever be untouchable in pug hub because the admins if I can remember correctly want to focus on the Inv-Adv category of the community(at least from what I remember when I was runner). I remember pug hub showing heavy favoritism towards higher level players. I remember all the reports I made on high level players throwing and doing shit that was so breaking rules would just get ignored.
rktGODKeep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.
thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.
[quote=rktGOD]Keep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.[/quote]
thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.
thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.
SOOOOOAPYMEISTERrktGODKeep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.
I never said him being an asshole is acceptable I'm just stating that his devotion to winning forever is the cause of it.
[quote=SOOOOOAPYMEISTER][quote=rktGOD]Keep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.[/quote]
thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.[/quote]
I never said him being an asshole is acceptable I'm just stating that his devotion to winning forever is the cause of it.
thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.[/quote]
I never said him being an asshole is acceptable I'm just stating that his devotion to winning forever is the cause of it.
rktGODSOOOOOAPYMEISTERI never said him being an asshole is acceptable I'm just stating that his devotion to winning forever is the cause of it.rktGODKeep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.
You can be devoted to winning but not be an asshole at the same time. If this was tier 1 CSGO no org would pick up someone who is an asshole to everyone. Your drive to win is the same as just the rest of the players - you're not special.
[quote=rktGOD][quote=SOOOOOAPYMEISTER][quote=rktGOD]Keep in mind that b4nny has devoted his life to winning FOREVER in TF2 and that's why he wants to win so bad even if it's just a pug that doesn't matter at the end of the day.[/quote]
thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.[/quote]
I never said him being an asshole is acceptable I'm just stating that his devotion to winning forever is the cause of it.[/quote]
You can be devoted to winning but not be an asshole at the same time. If this was tier 1 CSGO no org would pick up someone who is an asshole to everyone. Your drive to win is the same as just the rest of the players - you're not special.
thats not an excuse to act like an asshole.[/quote]
I never said him being an asshole is acceptable I'm just stating that his devotion to winning forever is the cause of it.[/quote]
You can be devoted to winning but not be an asshole at the same time. If this was tier 1 CSGO no org would pick up someone who is an asshole to everyone. Your drive to win is the same as just the rest of the players - you're not special.
rktGOD To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up
? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable
[quote=rktGOD] To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up [/quote]
? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable
? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable
rickrigatonirktGOD To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable
I worded it terribly but what I was trying to say was I don't think there's a point in bringing up my frustrations to people in pugs because the majority doesn't care about pugs the way I do that's why I don't behave the same way b4nny does to people who made mistakes.
[quote=rickrigatoni][quote=rktGOD] To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up [/quote]
? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable[/quote]
I worded it terribly but what I was trying to say was I don't think there's a point in bringing up my frustrations to people in pugs because the majority doesn't care about pugs the way I do that's why I don't behave the same way b4nny does to people who made mistakes.
? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable[/quote]
I worded it terribly but what I was trying to say was I don't think there's a point in bringing up my frustrations to people in pugs because the majority doesn't care about pugs the way I do that's why I don't behave the same way b4nny does to people who made mistakes.
rktGODrickrigatoniI worded it terribly but what I was trying to say was I don't think there's a point in bringing up my frustrations to people in pugs because the majority doesn't care about pugs the way I do that's why I don't behave the same way b4nny does to people who made mistakes.rktGOD To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable
The problem with b4nny isn't merely that he is bringing up his frustrations when people make mistakes, it's that he often does it in the most aggressive manner possible.
It is completely fine and understandable if you have a competitive mindset and trying to win in any setting is completely natural to you but wanting to win at all cost doesn't mean needing to express your criticisms in the most vitriolic way you can think of.
I think b4nny overlooks this a lot when he recieves criticism and he often makes the argument about whether you should/should not try in pugs when rather, it should be about whether changing your rhetoric is possible while still wanting to win (it is.)
[quote=rktGOD][quote=rickrigatoni][quote=rktGOD] To be honest that just feel like a waste of time to me when people do that but the only difference is I wouldn't talk to someone the way b4nny did when he's frustrated at something like that. I guess part of it is I don't have the achievements like b4nny does to back myself up [/quote]
? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable[/quote]
I worded it terribly but what I was trying to say was I don't think there's a point in bringing up my frustrations to people in pugs because the majority doesn't care about pugs the way I do that's why I don't behave the same way b4nny does to people who made mistakes.[/quote] The problem with b4nny isn't merely that he is bringing up his frustrations when people make mistakes, it's that he often does it in the most aggressive manner possible.
It is completely fine and understandable if you have a competitive mindset and trying to win in any setting is completely natural to you but wanting to win at all cost doesn't mean needing to express your criticisms in the most vitriolic way you can think of.
I think b4nny overlooks this a lot when he recieves criticism and he often makes the argument about whether you should/should not try in pugs when rather, it should be about whether changing your rhetoric is possible while still wanting to win (it is.)
? makes it seem like if you won lan or something you would talk to people like he does. definitely makes it seem like you think it is acceptable[/quote]
I worded it terribly but what I was trying to say was I don't think there's a point in bringing up my frustrations to people in pugs because the majority doesn't care about pugs the way I do that's why I don't behave the same way b4nny does to people who made mistakes.[/quote] The problem with b4nny isn't merely that he is bringing up his frustrations when people make mistakes, it's that he often does it in the most aggressive manner possible.
It is completely fine and understandable if you have a competitive mindset and trying to win in any setting is completely natural to you but wanting to win at all cost doesn't mean needing to express your criticisms in the most vitriolic way you can think of.
I think b4nny overlooks this a lot when he recieves criticism and he often makes the argument about whether you should/should not try in pugs when rather, it should be about whether changing your rhetoric is possible while still wanting to win (it is.)
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