not just map tweaks, weapons too

#31

DarkNecrid

7 Frags – +

Allealholy hell i hope valve doesnt listen to spuf. they want to put Scout's +25 health on mad milk, because they think the shortstop is already OP.

if they don't put it on the mad milk you could have 165 HP Scouts (247 HP buffed).

@_@

e: f;b

[quote=Alleal]holy hell i hope valve doesnt listen to spuf. they want to put Scout's +25 health on [i]mad milk[/i], because they think the shortstop is already OP.[/quote]

if they don't put it on the mad milk you could have 165 HP Scouts (247 HP buffed).

@_@

e: f;b

#32

MoonwalkingPneumonia

15 Frags – +

+25 hp with mad milk means 150hp scattergun scouts, who can heal themselves by doing damage. I know the lack of pistol hurts and all, but damn.

#33

RawrSpoon

6 Frags – +

Wow battalion's backup is gonna make soft pushes in HL stupidly easy. Can't get headshot, gg.

#34

the301stspartan

1 Frags – +

I think the +25 health should be on the primary.

But really, make it for the heavy.

edit:

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I'm not being serious

I think the +25 health should be on the primary.

But really, make it for the heavy.

edit: [spoiler]I'm not being serious[/spoiler]

#35

maidos

16 Frags – +

SideshowGod please don't fuck up the stock weapons.

i want grenade launcher with 6 pipes loaded

[quote=Sideshow]God please don't fuck up the stock weapons.[/quote]

i want grenade launcher with 6 pipes loaded

#36

Magikarp

-1 Frags – +

maidosSideshowGod please don't fuck up the stock weapons.
i want grenade launcher with 6 pipes loaded

But then b4nny will have 2 pipes less to reload :C.
But aside from that, I hope they don't mess with the stock weapons, they're perfect as it is. I also hope they don't mess with any medic unlocks, mostly the ubersaw, kritzkrieg, and crossbow in a really bad way.

[quote=maidos][quote=Sideshow]God please don't fuck up the stock weapons.[/quote]

i want grenade launcher with 6 pipes loaded[/quote]
But then b4nny will have 2 pipes less to reload :C.
But aside from that, I hope they don't mess with the stock weapons, they're perfect as it is. I also hope they don't mess with any medic unlocks, mostly the ubersaw, kritzkrieg, and crossbow in a really bad way.

#37

boppet

3 Frags – +

Guess I'll just have to settle with the invis watch from now on as spy. :( But this update will be very colossal and will probably make pubs less of a shitfest annoyance to play. Hopefully.

Also, after this maybe more weapons will ACTUALLY be viable in HL/6v6 play, it's just a silent plead from me.

Guess I'll just have to settle with the invis watch from now on as spy. :( But this update will be very colossal and will probably make pubs less of a shitfest annoyance to play. Hopefully.

Also, after this maybe more weapons will ACTUALLY be viable in HL/6v6 play, it's just a silent plead from me.

#38

Rockkkkkkk

0 Frags – +

They might split it up so 15+ hp to the milk and then +10 to the shortstop. Either one is pretty bad though. And the fish is just suppose to be funny. idk what they can do. hopefully it isn't completely broken though.

#39

silkthread

5 Frags – +

why is there no wrangler nerf?

edit: nevermind it got nerfed LOL

why is there no wrangler nerf?

edit: nevermind it got nerfed LOL

#40

JonesyMcFly

2 Frags – +

put the hp on the fish
165 damage scattergun scouts
great fucking plan

~~or we could just not give 25 hp to scout for no fucking reason~~

put the hp on the fish
165 damage scattergun scouts
great fucking plan

[s]or we could just not give 25 hp to scout for no fucking reason[/s]

#41

Benroads

1 Frags – +

I cannot see why they'de put it on anything besides the shortstop. Mad milk is a bit insane already and adding a hp boost would be too much.

#42

m4risa

14 Frags – +

i will be licking delicious spy tears next season

#43

Alleal

1 Frags – +

DarkNecridAllealholy hell i hope valve doesnt listen to spuf. they want to put Scout's +25 health on mad milk, because they think the shortstop is already OP.
if they don't put it on the mad milk you could have 165 HP Scouts (247 HP buffed).

@_@

e: f;b

165 hp WITH THE SHORTSTOP. it doesnt matter if youre squishy or not if you're thirty feet away.

besides that's the fault of the PBPP not the set effect.

we could just not have the effect at all.

but putting it on mad milk would be ludicrous

[quote=DarkNecrid][quote=Alleal]holy hell i hope valve doesnt listen to spuf. they want to put Scout's +25 health on [i]mad milk[/i], because they think the shortstop is already OP.[/quote]

if they don't put it on the mad milk you could have 165 HP Scouts (247 HP buffed).

@_@

e: f;b[/quote]

165 hp WITH THE SHORTSTOP. it doesnt matter if youre squishy or not if you're thirty feet away.

besides that's the fault of the PBPP not the set effect.

we could just not have the effect at all.

but putting it on mad milk would be ludicrous

#44

trash

1 Frags – +

people are saying that battalion's backup will "finally be useful in 6s" as if it hasn't already been banned for being too good on viaduct

might actually be decent in HL now tho, who knows

people are saying that battalion's backup will "finally be useful in 6s" as if it hasn't already been banned for being too good on viaduct

might actually be decent in HL now tho, who knows

#45

Ryan

10 Frags – +

as a spy main i'm so happy for the DR change :D

#46

trash

3 Frags – +

hey wait I just realized, were they paying attention to that weapon balancing thread a while back that devolved into pyro discussion? sal DID say he wanted the first post to be a quick overview of weapon problems so some poor old employee didn't have to deal with us yellin' at each other

#47

falcon

3 Frags – +

Since they said they will move set bonuses to certain items, I wonder if items like the Sleeper or the Danger Shield will be banned from HL for having the bonus of immune to headshots on it.

On a side note: Battalions Backup looks like it will be really viable for HL now, as it is already banned in 6s. I wonder if anyone will utilize the resistances for pushes into enemy combos when they have no uber, or sentries. (What about the set bonus for soldier? The resistance to sentries one, that's not banned right?)

Since they said they will move set bonuses to certain items, I wonder if items like the Sleeper or the Danger Shield will be banned from HL for having the bonus of immune to headshots on it.

On a side note: Battalions Backup looks like it will be really viable for HL now, as it is already banned in 6s. I wonder if anyone will utilize the resistances for pushes into enemy combos when they have no uber, or sentries. (What about the set bonus for soldier? The resistance to sentries one, that's not banned right?)

#48

kaiserReg

0 Frags – +

grcSince they said they will move set bonuses to certain items, I wonder if items like the Sleeper or the Danger Shield will be banned from HL for having the bonus of immune to headshots on it.

On a side note: Battalions Backup looks like it will be really viable for HL now, as it is already banned in 6s. I wonder if anyone will utilize the resistances for pushes into enemy combos when they have no uber, or sentries. (What about the set bonus for soldier? The resistance to sentries one, that's not banned right?)

That set is allowed, it's just not very good. Maybe now they'll look into banning it depending on how good the set becomes with this buff.

[quote=grc]Since they said they will move set bonuses to certain items, I wonder if items like the Sleeper or the Danger Shield will be banned from HL for having the bonus of immune to headshots on it.

On a side note: Battalions Backup looks like it will be really viable for HL now, as it is already banned in 6s. I wonder if anyone will utilize the resistances for pushes into enemy combos when they have no uber, or sentries. (What about the set bonus for soldier? The resistance to sentries one, that's not banned right?)[/quote]
That set is allowed, it's just not very good. Maybe now they'll look into banning it depending on how good the set becomes with this buff.

#49

PowerofTower

7 Frags – +

I personally think the DR nerf is kinda clever. If you had asked me to nerf it, I would not have thought of doing that.

#50

wareya

1 Frags – +

move pistol health buff to BFB
put set health buff on shortstop
profit

#51

ulty

0 Frags – +

KhakiTeam Fortress Challenge ProMode

Bro do u even promode?

[quote=Khaki]Team Fortress Challenge ProMode[/quote]

Bro do u even promode?

#52

trash

-8 Frags – +

new fish flavor text:
+25 health
-it is a fish
-why are you expecting a fish to hurt people
-stop that

turn current fish into "vintage fish", rotten texture and all, w/ vintage fish still functioning as usual

new fish flavor text:
+25 health
-it is a fish
-why are you expecting a fish to hurt people
-stop that

turn current fish into "vintage fish", rotten texture and all, w/ vintage fish still functioning as usual

#53

Brisk

8 Frags – +

Lemonmilobrace yourselves

the spy tears are comingthey're already here
http://teamfortress.tv/streams/view/stabbystabby

Are you joking or is there a vod time i should be looking for?

[quote=Lemon][quote=milo]brace yourselves

the spy tears are coming[/quote]
they're already here
http://teamfortress.tv/streams/view/stabbystabby[/quote]

Are you joking or is there a vod time i should be looking for?

#54

Ragor

27 Frags – +

*

#55

jp_

15 Frags – +

HP buffs on weapons...

Remember?

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/f/f2/RedBackburnerTilt.png/250px-RedBackburnerTilt.png?t=20111211060606

REMEMBER?!

HP buffs on weapons...

Remember?
[img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/f/f2/RedBackburnerTilt.png/250px-RedBackburnerTilt.png?t=20111211060606[/img]
[b]REMEMBER?![/b]

#56

DrPloxo

-2 Frags – +

MagikarpmaidosSideshowGod please don't fuck up the stock weapons.
i want grenade launcher with 6 pipes loadedBut then b4nny will have 2 pipes less to reload :C.
But aside from that, I hope they don't mess with the stock weapons, they're perfect as it is. I also hope they don't mess with any medic unlocks, mostly the ubersaw, kritzkrieg, and crossbow in a really bad way.

Sticky launcher could be nerfed.

[quote=Magikarp][quote=maidos][quote=Sideshow]God please don't fuck up the stock weapons.[/quote]

i want grenade launcher with 6 pipes loaded[/quote]
But then b4nny will have 2 pipes less to reload :C.
But aside from that, I hope they don't mess with the stock weapons, they're perfect as it is. I also hope they don't mess with any medic unlocks, mostly the ubersaw, kritzkrieg, and crossbow in a really bad way.[/quote]
Sticky launcher could be nerfed.

#57

maidos

5 Frags – +

makes me wonder with all the weapon fix if it isnt a preparation for the lobby system.
Valve decide to fix the game balance and bugs in map so people can truly immerse with the game as they can play with more weapons+fixes

#58

Fox

0 Frags – +

battalion's backup is actually already really hard to deal with in any koth map setting

i don't think it's going to help that they are buffing the method of charging it, plus the actual effect of the pack itself

the reason it was restricted in esea that one season (dunno if it's still blacklisted), almost every team was running it as a mini-uber on viaduct week, and almost any team that wasn't using it was gimping themselves against a team that was running it during that time period

i think it's absurd they're making it even better

battalion's backup is actually already really hard to deal with in any koth map setting

i don't think it's going to help that they are buffing the method of charging it, plus the actual effect of the pack itself

the reason it was restricted in esea that one season (dunno if it's still blacklisted), almost every team was running it as a mini-uber on viaduct week, and almost any team that wasn't using it was gimping themselves against a team that was running it during that time period

i think it's absurd they're making it even better

#59

JClown

1 Frags – +

Well the thing about the battalion's backup is that as good as it may be in sixes, where teamwork and small teams (in which everyone can be covered by the buff!) is involved, it is banned-yet the fact still stands it's next to useless in pubs. The buff should be interesting in that regard

#60

Dewotter

-2 Frags – +

Depending on how aggressive they are with the time reduction the DR could well be nerfed into oblivion. I'd rather they reduced resistance as damage as done so a smart player is rewarded with a kill rather than the cloak be reduced by a player spamming all around straight after the feign, before the spy can attempt an escape.

But again, it all depends on how aggressive the new mechanic is.

Depending on how aggressive they are with the time reduction the DR could well be nerfed into oblivion. I'd rather they reduced resistance as damage as done so a smart player is rewarded with a kill rather than the cloak be reduced by a player spamming all around straight after the feign, before the spy can attempt an escape.

But again, it all depends on how aggressive the new mechanic is.