Pugging of all forms has been a pain in the ass these past couple months.
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I get what you're trying to do and I might do the same if i were in your shoes but realistically trying to explain yourself doing low damage in a pug rather than why you didn't acknowledge mustard's argument is probably not your biggest concern.
I get what you're trying to do and I might do the same if i were in your shoes but realistically trying to explain yourself doing low damage in a pug rather than why you didn't acknowledge mustard's argument is probably not your biggest concern.
mustardoverlord<mustardoverlord> I have a bad attitude towards you because you've done 30 damage per minute in every pug of your life for a year and a half and ban people because of personal vendettas constantly, and then make looking threads for gold and try to act like youre justified in your admining
I literally LOL'ed at that one.
[quote=mustardoverlord]<mustardoverlord> I have a bad attitude towards you because you've done 30 damage per minute in every pug of your life for a year and a half and ban people because of personal vendettas constantly, and then make looking threads for gold and try to act like youre justified in your admining[/quote]
I literally LOL'ed at that one.
I literally LOL'ed at that one.
FemmeFataleshit
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/36312
sorry for doubting u
[quote=FemmeFatale]shit[/quote]
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/36312
sorry for doubting u
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/36312
sorry for doubting u
OblivionagesmoboFirst, way to -frag Lange for trying to guide this community toward something almost respectable. Shame on him.
I don't think it's necessarily because no one agrees with his intention but the average guy is going to read what steve had to say and feel some anger towards Elena. Lange is definitely right. But for the average person on this forum, not a lot of people know how Elena is or the background of the conflict so we just go off of the OP.
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.
On the topic of your first paragraph, I don't think anyone should base any opinion off of one source. As you said: The average person is basing their opinion off of one person (the OP), instead of going into that IRC themselves and getting a first hand account. Or asking someone they know outside of this forum. When they have just one source, they are looking at only a single facet of the argument. This is mostly generalized information, it applies to most of anything.
On your second paragraph, it might actually be the inverse of that. Personally, if I was Asian or a race which has had derogatory terms or stereotypes attributed to it, I would first try to leave instead of causing more conflict. I do not know where you live, but in most places, it's very hard to get someone to punch you without being physically aggressive towards them ("getting in their face", hitting them first, or something along those lines, but most of the time they will just leave, even when doing that). On the internet this is not the case, there's countless examples of conflicts on the internet, and in nearly every case, both parties are at fault.
Edit: I read this over a few times, and I think I appeared a little aggressive. I would like to say I didn't reply out of disagreement, but out of interest.
[quote=Oblivionage][quote=smobo]First, way to -frag Lange for trying to guide this community toward something almost respectable. Shame on him.[/quote]
I don't think it's necessarily because no one agrees with his intention but the average guy is going to read what steve had to say and feel some anger towards Elena. Lange is definitely right. But for the average person on this forum, not a lot of people know how Elena is or the background of the conflict so we just go off of the OP.
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.[/quote]
On the topic of your first paragraph, I don't think anyone should base any opinion off of one source. As you said: The average person is basing their opinion off of one person (the OP), instead of going into that IRC themselves and getting a first hand account. Or asking someone they know outside of this forum. When they have just one source, they are looking at only a single facet of the argument. This is mostly generalized information, it applies to most of anything.
On your second paragraph, it might actually be the inverse of that. Personally, if I was Asian or a race which has had derogatory terms or stereotypes attributed to it, I would first try to leave instead of causing more conflict. I do not know where you live, but in most places, it's very hard to get someone to punch you without being physically aggressive towards them ("getting in their face", hitting them first, or something along those lines, but most of the time they will just leave, even when doing that). On the internet this is not the case, there's countless examples of conflicts on the internet, and in nearly every case, both parties are at fault.
Edit: I read this over a few times, and I think I appeared a little aggressive. I would like to say I didn't reply out of disagreement, but out of interest.
I don't think it's necessarily because no one agrees with his intention but the average guy is going to read what steve had to say and feel some anger towards Elena. Lange is definitely right. But for the average person on this forum, not a lot of people know how Elena is or the background of the conflict so we just go off of the OP.
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.[/quote]
On the topic of your first paragraph, I don't think anyone should base any opinion off of one source. As you said: The average person is basing their opinion off of one person (the OP), instead of going into that IRC themselves and getting a first hand account. Or asking someone they know outside of this forum. When they have just one source, they are looking at only a single facet of the argument. This is mostly generalized information, it applies to most of anything.
On your second paragraph, it might actually be the inverse of that. Personally, if I was Asian or a race which has had derogatory terms or stereotypes attributed to it, I would first try to leave instead of causing more conflict. I do not know where you live, but in most places, it's very hard to get someone to punch you without being physically aggressive towards them ("getting in their face", hitting them first, or something along those lines, but most of the time they will just leave, even when doing that). On the internet this is not the case, there's countless examples of conflicts on the internet, and in nearly every case, both parties are at fault.
Edit: I read this over a few times, and I think I appeared a little aggressive. I would like to say I didn't reply out of disagreement, but out of interest.
I was not aware that you needed a monitor to play pyro.
I was not aware that you needed a monitor to play pyro.
Rankdont make fun of the girl gamers
plz
maybe 90% of them should stop being the combination of shit at video games and annoying as fuck
[quote=Rank]dont make fun of the girl gamers
[size=10]plz[/size][/quote]
maybe 90% of them should stop being the combination of shit at video games and annoying as fuck
[size=10]plz[/size][/quote]
maybe 90% of them should stop being the combination of shit at video games and annoying as fuck
breloommaybe 90% of them should stop being the combination of shit at video games and annoying as fuck
girls are naturally less competitive than males, and the annoying ones are a vocal minority that only get the attention they do because guys tend to sperg out about girls that play video games
[quote=breloom]maybe 90% of them should stop being the combination of shit at video games and annoying as fuck[/quote]
girls are naturally less competitive than males, and the annoying ones are a vocal minority that only get the attention they do because guys tend to sperg out about girls that play video games
girls are naturally less competitive than males, and the annoying ones are a vocal minority that only get the attention they do because guys tend to sperg out about girls that play video games
all the girls ive played with have been very cool and i respect them greatly
all the girls ive played with have been very cool and i respect them greatly
Let us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.
Let us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.
OblivionagesmoboFirst, way to -frag Lange for trying to guide this community toward something almost respectable. Shame on him.
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.
I think it is you who has the warped view how the world works. Eye for an eye is pretty barbaric mentality and not something fit for modern society.
[quote=Oblivionage][quote=smobo]First, way to -frag Lange for trying to guide this community toward something almost respectable. Shame on him.[/quote]
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.[/quote]
I think it is you who has the warped view how the world works. Eye for an eye is pretty barbaric mentality and not something fit for modern society.
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.[/quote]
I think it is you who has the warped view how the world works. Eye for an eye is pretty barbaric mentality and not something fit for modern society.
shruggerOblivionageI think it is you who has the warped view how the world works. Eye for an eye is pretty barbaric mentality and not something fit for modern society.smoboFirst, way to -frag Lange for trying to guide this community toward something almost respectable. Shame on him.
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi
[quote=shrugger][quote=Oblivionage][quote=smobo]First, way to -frag Lange for trying to guide this community toward something almost respectable. Shame on him.[/quote]
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.[/quote]
I think it is you who has the warped view how the world works. Eye for an eye is pretty barbaric mentality and not something fit for modern society.[/quote]
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi
Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.[/quote]
I think it is you who has the warped view how the world works. Eye for an eye is pretty barbaric mentality and not something fit for modern society.[/quote]
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi
smobotl;dr: they should quit fucking around in low level pugs to boost their ego and populate the dead channel they blame their behavior on
literally what I said and got minus fragged
i should have paid more attention in English so I could be smooth about it like mr. smobes
HiveMindwhy don't you all just stop going there if you're actually that upset about it
[quote=smobo]
tl;dr: they should quit fucking around in low level pugs to boost their ego and populate the dead channel they blame their behavior on[/quote]
literally what I said and got minus fragged
i should have paid more attention in English so I could be smooth about it like mr. smobes
[quote=HiveMind]
why don't you all just stop going there if you're actually that upset about it
[/quote]
tl;dr: they should quit fucking around in low level pugs to boost their ego and populate the dead channel they blame their behavior on[/quote]
literally what I said and got minus fragged
i should have paid more attention in English so I could be smooth about it like mr. smobes
[quote=HiveMind]
why don't you all just stop going there if you're actually that upset about it
[/quote]
FogLet us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team!
[quote=Fog]Let us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.[/quote]
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team!
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team!
SteveCFogLet us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team!
why did you edit out the kawaii face
[quote=SteveC][quote=Fog]Let us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.[/quote]
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team![/quote]
why did you edit out the kawaii face
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team![/quote]
why did you edit out the kawaii face
SteveCFogLet us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team!
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/platpyropov
And by the looks of it entirely made up of girl gamers, n1 SteveC (must have good intentions tho!)
[quote=SteveC][quote=Fog]Let us all remember that SteveC got banned from ESEA for a week for calling all of lost in translation niggers.[/quote]
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team![/quote]
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/platpyropov
And by the looks of it entirely made up of girl gamers, n1 SteveC (must have good intentions tho!)
Good news, bdonski and I made up and now we're making a plat highlander team![/quote]
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/platpyropov
And by the looks of it entirely made up of girl gamers, n1 SteveC (must have good intentions tho!)
We've already met at LAN (actually, FITES last year...), which is where my original comment came from.
We've already met at LAN (actually, FITES last year...), which is where my original comment came from.
Hey Elena, want to join an up and coming plat team for next season? Add me on steam if you're interested.
Hey Elena, want to join an up and coming plat team for next season? Add me on steam if you're interested.
Sorry man, I'm teaching next semester and have learned my lesson about trying to do that and make highlander scrims/matches on time. Looking for something lower key.
Sorry man, I'm teaching next semester and have learned my lesson about trying to do that and make highlander scrims/matches on time. Looking for something lower key.
How many fucking bad drama threads do we need before we learn?
At least make this shit interesting, for real. It's getting old. You know in like, another 20 posts or so, one of the people involved is gonna make a fucking apology thread. Then that person is gonna get flamed for it, then like, 30 posts into that thread, flaming that person will be too mainstream, and suddenly everyone will be like OMG AT LEAST HE HAS THE GUTS TO APOLOGIZE ON A CARTOON FPS FORUM STEP OFF OMG. And while all this is happening, June will still be trying to proxy his ban so he can drop like 7 essay length posts into the new drama threads (which will of course, be ferociously proofread by Smaka); Harbleu still won't have washed his hair since i46, and Phrakture will make like 12 more alts to boost his mge elo. Oh, and bape will still be a virgin (I still love you though, killa).
For fucking real, spice this shit up. Please. 2v2 rap battle. SteveC and Mustardoverlord vs Elena and FemmeFatale. If they are down, I will stream that shit, and provide prizes (not just bullshit ones, maybe some buds and shit) for viewers to win. I'll need judges to volunteer too.
Let's make this a fucking reality. Silfuckingdeezy. Bring the fucking ruckus. We in the building. Shouts out to calvin in da zone (aka calzone) - don't get calzowned. Shouts out to HP #premiumcabbage #freehp2014. Shouts out to all my niggas locked down. Keep ya head up. Church. We out.
Ps: for real, if the involved parties are down, I'll make this happen.
Edit: fuck the police
How many fucking bad drama threads do we need before we learn?
At least make this shit interesting, for real. It's getting old. You know in like, another 20 posts or so, one of the people involved is gonna make a fucking apology thread. Then that person is gonna get flamed for it, then like, 30 posts into that thread, flaming that person will be too mainstream, and suddenly everyone will be like OMG AT LEAST HE HAS THE GUTS TO APOLOGIZE ON A CARTOON FPS FORUM STEP OFF OMG. And while all this is happening, June will still be trying to proxy his ban so he can drop like 7 essay length posts into the new drama threads (which will of course, be ferociously proofread by Smaka); Harbleu still won't have washed his hair since i46, and Phrakture will make like 12 more alts to boost his mge elo. Oh, and bape will still be a virgin (I still love you though, killa).
For fucking real, spice this shit up. Please. 2v2 rap battle. SteveC and Mustardoverlord vs Elena and FemmeFatale. If they are down, I will stream that shit, and provide prizes (not just bullshit ones, maybe some buds and shit) for viewers to win. I'll need judges to volunteer too.
Let's make this a fucking reality. Silfuckingdeezy. Bring the fucking ruckus. We in the building. Shouts out to calvin in da zone (aka calzone) - don't get calzowned. Shouts out to HP #premiumcabbage #freehp2014. Shouts out to all my niggas locked down. Keep ya head up. Church. We out.
Ps: for real, if the involved parties are down, I'll make this happen.
Edit: fuck the police
At least make this shit interesting, for real. It's getting old. You know in like, another 20 posts or so, one of the people involved is gonna make a fucking apology thread. Then that person is gonna get flamed for it, then like, 30 posts into that thread, flaming that person will be too mainstream, and suddenly everyone will be like OMG AT LEAST HE HAS THE GUTS TO APOLOGIZE ON A CARTOON FPS FORUM STEP OFF OMG. And while all this is happening, June will still be trying to proxy his ban so he can drop like 7 essay length posts into the new drama threads (which will of course, be ferociously proofread by Smaka); Harbleu still won't have washed his hair since i46, and Phrakture will make like 12 more alts to boost his mge elo. Oh, and bape will still be a virgin (I still love you though, killa).
For fucking real, spice this shit up. Please. 2v2 rap battle. SteveC and Mustardoverlord vs Elena and FemmeFatale. If they are down, I will stream that shit, and provide prizes (not just bullshit ones, maybe some buds and shit) for viewers to win. I'll need judges to volunteer too.
Let's make this a fucking reality. Silfuckingdeezy. Bring the fucking ruckus. We in the building. Shouts out to calvin in da zone (aka calzone) - don't get calzowned. Shouts out to HP #premiumcabbage #freehp2014. Shouts out to all my niggas locked down. Keep ya head up. Church. We out.
Ps: for real, if the involved parties are down, I'll make this happen.
Edit: fuck the police
I'll regret saying this, but I'm in, although I know I'll get schooled by MOL. Gotta practice my rhythm I guess.
I'll regret saying this, but I'm in, although I know I'll get schooled by MOL. Gotta practice my rhythm I guess.
YES!!!!!! 1/4 of the way there. Mustard, you know you wanna come out of retirement. SteveC, I know you wanna bring honor to the souls of deathforce2. Femmefatale, I don't know who you are but you're probably an emcee at heart.
YES!!!!!! 1/4 of the way there. Mustard, you know you wanna come out of retirement. SteveC, I know you wanna bring honor to the souls of deathforce2. Femmefatale, I don't know who you are but you're probably an emcee at heart.
OblivionagesmoboThat's the problem with society.
Society has more than 1 problem.
[quote=Oblivionage][quote=smobo]That's the problem with society.[/quote]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoM5fLITfk]Society has more than 1 problem.[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoM5fLITfk]Society has more than 1 problem.[/url]
OblivionageAlso, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.
"That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy."
I don't think there exists any problem with society past, like, elementary school that is at all similar to this. Oh, also, stop being an overtly masculine internet tough guy and learn how the real world works. Like shrugger said, "an eye for an eye" is a shitty philosophy to follow.
Also the difference is Steve is trying to accomplish something here. He wants Elena to be removed from her position of power. Know how to do that? Use chatlogs that display her bad manners and poor usage of her power to the community and other admins to turn people against her and convince the admins to give her the boot. Know how not to do that? Call her a fat whale while doing all of the above, which stoops you to her level and makes your point look less defensible.
I legitimately would lean to the side of the displeased users than I would the disgruntled admin, but steve's poor presentation of this whole situation and and general bad manners (see #134) just completely distracts me. I can't take the whole "she's a jerk cuz she called him an asian and thats racist" thing seriously when he struck back by calling her a fat whale and has a history and a bunch of friends that throw around nigger like there's no tomorrow.
[quote=Oblivionage]Also, you saw how Elena made fun of Steve for being asian and 'small' so you can't fucking tell me that we can't insult her back. That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy. In real life if someone calls you a chink or something else racist, you're not going to go "Sorry but let's try to be civilized here and talk this through." You're going to sock the motherfucker.[/quote]
"That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy."
I don't think there exists any problem with society past, like, elementary school that is at all similar to this. Oh, also, stop being an overtly masculine internet tough guy and learn how the real world works. Like shrugger said, "an eye for an eye" is a shitty philosophy to follow.
Also the difference is Steve is trying to accomplish something here. He wants Elena to be removed from her position of power. Know how to do that? Use chatlogs that display her bad manners and poor usage of her power to the community and other admins to turn people against her and convince the admins to give her the boot. Know how not to do that? Call her a fat whale while doing all of the above, which stoops you to her level and makes your point look less defensible.
I legitimately would lean to the side of the displeased users than I would the disgruntled admin, but steve's poor presentation of this whole situation and and general bad manners (see #134) just completely distracts me. I can't take the whole "she's a jerk cuz she called him an asian and thats racist" thing seriously when he struck back by calling her a fat whale and has a history and a bunch of friends that throw around nigger like there's no tomorrow.
"That's the problem with society. Everyone is a pussy."
I don't think there exists any problem with society past, like, elementary school that is at all similar to this. Oh, also, stop being an overtly masculine internet tough guy and learn how the real world works. Like shrugger said, "an eye for an eye" is a shitty philosophy to follow.
Also the difference is Steve is trying to accomplish something here. He wants Elena to be removed from her position of power. Know how to do that? Use chatlogs that display her bad manners and poor usage of her power to the community and other admins to turn people against her and convince the admins to give her the boot. Know how not to do that? Call her a fat whale while doing all of the above, which stoops you to her level and makes your point look less defensible.
I legitimately would lean to the side of the displeased users than I would the disgruntled admin, but steve's poor presentation of this whole situation and and general bad manners (see #134) just completely distracts me. I can't take the whole "she's a jerk cuz she called him an asian and thats racist" thing seriously when he struck back by calling her a fat whale and has a history and a bunch of friends that throw around nigger like there's no tomorrow.
BenroadsI was not aware that you needed a monitor to play pyro.
so good. Such truth.
[quote=Benroads]I was not aware that you needed a monitor to play pyro.[/quote] so good. Such truth.
holograsmwhat is it about tf2 that attracts shitty admins?
its more that power corrupts and no matter what kind of person you are it will have that effect to some point.
[quote=holograsm]what is it about tf2 that attracts shitty admins?[/quote]
its more that power corrupts and no matter what kind of person you are it will have that effect to some point.
its more that power corrupts and no matter what kind of person you are it will have that effect to some point.
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