wicked

why new join and leave commands doe?

Really well done rework :)

I'll make this server my main MGE server from now on.

I hope this post helps them get the attention they deserve, they are all very nice guys and girls.

It is a small but perfectionist change. The terms add and remove are those from a programmer's perspective. The terms join and leave are those from a player's perspective.

if possible you should add accuracy stats, like there was before in past versions... i really miss
those stats.

I will consider it for the second update. I will most likely add add and remove back next to the join and leave changes.

wasn't there some huge, cumbersome issue with accuracy stats in older versions that ended up getting them removed?

no idea

can you make it to where add/remove still works too?

Fred's put a lot of time and effort into this MGE rework and it shows. Always open to suggestions and community feedback - would recommend people add this to their list of regular MGE servers.

Already spoken to Fred about the replaced !add commands, he's already considering running both his join commands and the old add commands side-by-side so people don't need to work against their own muscle memory. Without meaning to put words in his mouth there's a good chance it'll be implemented in the next update.

It was heavy on frames on the client side. But I can have a look to see if it can be done without that downside.

Yes. Consider it done in the JC Update #2 release.

allowing all classes by default seems silly (heavy) + you disable engineer buildings so whats the point of allowing engineer?

so you removed gravelpit last and then you fixed an issue on it later on in the change log?

why would you change the spawns in endif
that was the point of endif
has no one ACTUALLY PLAYED endif???????

everything else is golden, especially the optimizations
im passionate about mge

oh and changing add/remove to join/leave now is just gonna cause confusion IMO, but i see that you plan on readding those in the next version anyway so GJ

I have made a development list for those that are interested in keeping track:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/just-cats/discussions/0/37470847765217654/

I feel that is is important for all classes to be given attention in Team Fortress 2. I ultimately intend to see if arenas can be expanded for different purposes, such as flare gun kills on Endif to give an example.

Originally I intended to remove no arenas. At the very last point of the map development I had to compensate for the high dynamic range lightning capabilities. I did this by removing two of which I believed to the be the least interesting arenas of the entire offering. I forgot to remove the Gravelpit Last fixes I had implemented before.

As for the Endif spawn change, this is to prevent spawn killing.

im sorry man but that is the point of endif.

There was a discussion on the issue a while back. Simply put, there is no completely accurate way of doing so, and most methods are generally resource-intensive.

Yeah, actually one of the premier factors of endif has always been spawn camping. It's a recreation of an old Quake World mod and it doesn't really seem fitting to change it. It also lets you practice those ridiculous air shots where you can hit them while they drop after killing them. If anything, you should make a separate arena if you want some sort of endif like arena (without spawn killing), rather than butcher what is a dear classic among old school FPS fans.

I apologise for the mistake. I was not aware of the history behind the arena. I will revert it in the next update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv_KDPXw_3U

thank you

Could you add a waiting queue area feature in the plugin?

For example, you could set up in spawns an arena that's specified as "queue" or such. When people join a full arena and have to wait in line, they'll be sent to the queue arena which will basically be SOAP DM. They can also just join the queue arena on their own if they just want to DM.

A friend of mine suggested this to me when I was making my mge map, and I had no way of implementing such a thing with the current MGE plugin, or with any combination of plugins. I'd try to do it myself, but I have no idea how to code anything.

crazy to think so many people to this day still get salty when you spawn kill them in endif
dumb plebs

heroic update, ty fred

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvP68PkCYIk this is how endif is played

does this finally mean that dm_whiskas can replace waste or something

http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ss/maps/_26599-.jpg

I would love to include it. I would have to contact the author regarding the inclusion into a GPLv3 project.

yeah I wanted to put it in v8 but justin kept saying no
now he refuses to send me the source of v8 after he messed up the spawns and decided to add cameras to every single arena. Regardless, if you want, you can add me and I can add whiskas for you.

You can contact him and ask him if you please. The Valve Map File of mge_training_jci is included in the download in the first post for those that wish to develop and experiment on their own.

But given the permission is granted, I would like to include this in a future JC update, granting your wish of availability.

Are the tracks removed on badlands middle like the actual map?

I would like to thank those that have eagerly provided feedback so far.

The following changes have been implemented on the server, and will eventually be rolled out in the second update to the public:

Would it be possible for you to provide a screenshot comparison? If something is put in an arena that is not originally there, I will resolve it.

It is no longer possible for Engineers to build in a black spawn box that is used as you travel back to the arena after you die.

damn this server looks great too bad it's empty. why is there elo? i feel like it's so unnecessary and just discourages people from playing certain players due to elo. imo just remove it like mge it.

also why all class? at least ban heavy engi and spy. anyone who runs those classes in mge is 99% fucking with people and ruining arenas

I see it as a simple skill indicator. If it proves to be unnecessary I could disable it per default or throw it out.

All class is important for Team Fortress 2. Every class can be used in competitive Team Fortress 2. Spies can train on headshots to give an example.