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#31
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i have a strange feeling that this is an alt

i have a strange feeling that this is an alt
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#32
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shifty1gi have a strange feeling that this is an alt

I have a strange feeling that you're dumb

[quote=shifty1g]i have a strange feeling that this is an alt[/quote] I have a strange feeling that you're dumb
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#33
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Fogshifty1gi have a strange feeling that this is an alt I have a strange feeling that you're dumb

#illuminati

[quote=Fog][quote=shifty1g]i have a strange feeling that this is an alt[/quote] I have a strange feeling that you're dumb[/quote]
#illuminati
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#34
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swattYou gotta buy it yourself man, or rather, you need to purchase an item in the Mann Co. store. You can kill two birds with one stone if you add funds to your steam wallet then purchase a key or something. That way you get both a premium steam account and a premium version of TF2.

And a key :DDDD

[quote=swatt]You gotta buy it yourself man, or rather, you need to purchase an item in the Mann Co. store. You can kill two birds with one stone if you add funds to your steam wallet then purchase a key or something. That way you get both a premium steam account and a premium version of TF2.[/quote]

And a key :DDDD
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#35
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Anyone have some rollout vids for the various classes? Had a few complaints about spawn heal order and i noticed everyone doing fancy jumps to get to the middle point.

Anyone have some rollout vids for the various classes? Had a few complaints about spawn heal order and i noticed everyone doing fancy jumps to get to the middle point.
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#36
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I just skimmed the thread but everyone seems to be skipping the first and most important step to entering comp TF2:

Pub. Like a lot. At least a hundred hours. If you're brand new to Tf2 the last thing you should do is jump straight into comp.

Pub, learn your classes, their abilities, and how they interact with each other. Learn your maps and your pickups, learn your unlocks, find a main.

TF2's barrier of entry at any level is 90% gamesense and 10% DM. You need to learn to succeed in pubs before you learn to succeed in 6's or 9's

While you pub, absorb as much TF2 content as you can. Watch Sal's shoutcasts and all the livestreams on the site. Read guides and watch frag videos. Content like that will make you better as surely as regular pubbing will.

Good luck.

I just skimmed the thread but everyone seems to be skipping the first and most important step to entering comp TF2:

Pub. Like a lot. At least a hundred hours. If you're brand new to Tf2 the last thing you should do is jump straight into comp.

Pub, learn your classes, their abilities, and how they interact with each other. Learn your maps and your pickups, learn your unlocks, find a main.

TF2's barrier of entry at any level is 90% gamesense and 10% DM. You need to learn to succeed in pubs before you learn to succeed in 6's or 9's

While you pub, absorb as much TF2 content as you can. Watch Sal's shoutcasts and all the livestreams on the site. Read guides and watch frag videos. Content like that will make you better as surely as regular pubbing will.

Good luck.
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#37
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In north america (it's only slightly difference in EU), the rollout goes like this:

One of the soldiers damages himself down to ~50 health in spawn. He then takes his equalizer out which allows him to run faster when damaged, but not be healed

The medic will fully overheal his demoman in spawn, until the demo is too far away to heal anymore.

When the demo jumps away, the medic will then fully overheal both scouts quickly

Then the medic switches to healing the other soldier, who will rocket jump to mid with the medic in tow.

When you get near mid, the first soldier will take his equalizer off and the medic will heal him up fully. When someone hasn't taken damage for a certain amount of time, their heal rate will increase at a few different points. This method of rolling out will allow both soldiers to get to mid with close to 300 HP.

For individual class rollouts on each map, you can just search them on youtube generally, not too hard to find.

In north america (it's only slightly difference in EU), the rollout goes like this:

One of the soldiers damages himself down to ~50 health in spawn. He then takes his equalizer out which allows him to run faster when damaged, but not be healed

The medic will fully overheal his demoman in spawn, until the demo is too far away to heal anymore.

When the demo jumps away, the medic will then fully overheal both scouts quickly

Then the medic switches to healing the other soldier, who will rocket jump to mid with the medic in tow.

When you get near mid, the first soldier will take his equalizer off and the medic will heal him up fully. When someone hasn't taken damage for a certain amount of time, their heal rate will increase at a few different points. This method of rolling out will allow both soldiers to get to mid with close to 300 HP.

For individual class rollouts on each map, you can just search them on youtube generally, not too hard to find.
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#38
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W4spcan someone help me with rocket jumping? I see people doing weird curves and stuff in MGE mod and i cant figure it out.

www.tf2jump.com

Weeeeee

Knowing that they're demoman rollouts, but for the most part you can base your stuff off of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCN4YZNgXI

[quote=W4sp]can someone help me with rocket jumping? I see people doing weird curves and stuff in MGE mod and i cant figure it out.[/quote]

www.tf2jump.com

Weeeeee

Knowing that they're demoman rollouts, but for the most part you can base your stuff off of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCN4YZNgXI
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#39
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AllealPub. Like a lot. At least a hundred hours. If you're brand new to Tf2 the last thing you should do is jump straight into comp.
Good luck.

Gonna disagree here. I played TF2 for ~30 hours before getting into comp, and I feel it was more beneficial than anything. I never gained the pub mentality, and really the only TF2 gamesense I know is competitive gamesense.

The only part of your post I find true is that it would be beneficial to learn about all the classes before getting into comp. There is no reason he couldn't learn everything else while playing comp. He'd probably learn faster even. Just while getting yelled at more.

[quote=Alleal]Pub. Like a lot. At least a hundred hours. If you're brand new to Tf2 the last thing you should do is jump straight into comp.
Good luck.[/quote]

Gonna disagree here. I played TF2 for ~30 hours before getting into comp, and I feel it was more beneficial than anything. I never gained the pub mentality, and really the only TF2 gamesense I know is competitive gamesense.

The only part of your post I find true is that it would be beneficial to learn about all the classes before getting into comp. There is no reason he couldn't learn everything else while playing comp. He'd probably learn faster even. Just while getting yelled at more.
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#40
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I tried pubbing and i dont mean to offend anyone but they seemed even worse then lobby.

Can someone give the IPs of some decent pub servers?

I tried pubbing and i dont mean to offend anyone but they seemed even worse then lobby.

Can someone give the IPs of some decent pub servers?
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#41
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W4spI tried pubbing and i dont mean to offend anyone but they seemed even worse then lobby.

Pubs are made for fun, don't take them seriously. You cannot enter this game and expect to be organized. Look for Stars server, it's slightly better in terms of skill.

If you want to get better at jumping, join a jump server.

Look for MGE servers(based on location), you'll usually find top ranked players(Platinum/TLR/Ruwin) hanging around ever so many days working on their aim.

[quote=W4sp]I tried pubbing and i dont mean to offend anyone but they seemed even worse then lobby.[/quote]

Pubs are made for fun, don't take them seriously. You cannot enter this game and expect to be organized. Look for Stars server, it's slightly better in terms of skill.

If you want to get better at jumping, join a jump server.

Look for MGE servers(based on location), you'll usually find top ranked players(Platinum/TLR/Ruwin) hanging around ever so many days working on their aim.
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#42
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W4spI tried pubbing and i dont mean to offend anyone but they seemed even worse then lobby.

Can someone give the IPs of some decent pub servers?

Pubs are not organized TF2.

Did they seem worse because you thought they were too chaotic to succeed in, or because you were already too good for them?

6's is a whole different beast from regular TF2, but pubs are accessible and easy to learn, and are a great place to start. Most of what you learn in pubs is about your classes abilities and limitations.

Pubs are chaos but experienced players can navigate it easily, and if you can't then you should spend some time learning to.

reillyAllealPub. Like a lot. At least a hundred hours. If you're brand new to Tf2 the last thing you should do is jump straight into comp.
Good luck.

Gonna disagree here. I played TF2 for ~30 hours before getting into comp, and I feel it was more beneficial than anything. I never gained the pub mentality, and really the only TF2 gamesense I know is competitive gamesense.

The only part of your post I find true is that it would be beneficial to learn about all the classes before getting into comp. There is no reason he couldn't learn everything else while playing comp. He'd probably learn faster even. Just while getting yelled at more.

Well I can only speak from my experience. I watched a ton of TF2 and pubbed a lot before I started playing newbie mixes. My first game I spent fumbling around, but the ones after I was outplaying half the coaches. I'm not claiming to be good, but I slipped right into 6's because of pubbing and watching TF2.

I don't think players bound for competitive play ever get pub mentality. They don't get satisfaction from beating on pubbies with pubby methods. They go find what's next and keep playing.

I suppose if you have people to play with it might be easier though. I did it all alone.

[quote=W4sp]I tried pubbing and i dont mean to offend anyone but they seemed even worse then lobby.

Can someone give the IPs of some decent pub servers?[/quote]

Pubs are not organized TF2.

Did they seem worse because you thought they were too chaotic to succeed in, or because you were already too good for them?

6's is a whole different beast from regular TF2, but pubs are accessible and easy to learn, and are a great place to start. Most of what you learn in pubs is about your classes abilities and limitations.

Pubs are chaos but experienced players can navigate it easily, and if you can't then you should spend some time learning to.

[quote=reilly][quote=Alleal]Pub. Like a lot. At least a hundred hours. If you're brand new to Tf2 the last thing you should do is jump straight into comp.
Good luck.[/quote]

Gonna disagree here. I played TF2 for ~30 hours before getting into comp, and I feel it was more beneficial than anything. I never gained the pub mentality, and really the only TF2 gamesense I know is competitive gamesense.

The only part of your post I find true is that it would be beneficial to learn about all the classes before getting into comp. There is no reason he couldn't learn everything else while playing comp. He'd probably learn faster even. Just while getting yelled at more.[/quote]

Well I can only speak from my experience. I watched a ton of TF2 and pubbed a lot before I started playing newbie mixes. My first game I spent fumbling around, but the ones after I was outplaying half the coaches. I'm not claiming to be good, but I slipped right into 6's because of pubbing and watching TF2.

I don't think players bound for competitive play ever get pub mentality. They don't get satisfaction from beating on pubbies with pubby methods. They go find what's next and keep playing.

I suppose if you have people to play with it might be easier though. I did it all alone.
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#43
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"It's how I got good."

-B4nny, on playing badwater pub servers.

"It's how I got good."

-B4nny, on playing badwater pub servers.
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#44
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this dude is this dude

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/W4sp

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/screwball

this dude is this dude

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/W4sp

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/screwball
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#45
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real

real
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#46
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looking at these questions, you can tell this guy is going to become a great player.

edit- then i read the other posts

looking at these questions, you can tell this guy is going to become a great player.

edit- then i read the other posts
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#47
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plot twist of the fucking century
10/10 - would get spooked again

plot twist of the fucking century
10/10 - would get spooked again
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#48
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Ugh, I wasted making an original for him. Thats what I get for being nice I guess. Fuck.

4:11 AM - JJ-: wtf
4:11 AM - JJ-: is this plot twist
4:11 AM - JJ-: I feel like M Night Shyamalan directed this shit

Ugh, I wasted making an original for him. Thats what I get for being nice I guess. Fuck.

4:11 AM - JJ-: wtf
4:11 AM - JJ-: is this plot twist
4:11 AM - JJ-: I feel like M Night Shyamalan directed this shit
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#49
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enigmathis dude is this dude

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/W4sp

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/screwball

wat pls explain

[quote=enigma]this dude is this dude

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/W4sp

http://teamfortress.tv/profile/user/screwball[/quote]

wat pls explain
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#50
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whats there to explain? its screwball on an alt.

whats there to explain? its screwball on an alt.
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#51
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disengagewhats there to explain? its screwball on an alt.

What the fuck was the point of this making an alt to post this? I do not understand in the slightest.

[quote=disengage]whats there to explain? its screwball on an alt.[/quote]

What the fuck was the point of this making an alt to post this? I do not understand in the slightest.
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#52
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I'm confused how enigma knew they were the same.

I'm confused how enigma knew they were the same.
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#53
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Definitely seemed fishy

Definitely seemed fishy
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#54
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vanillaI'm confused how enigma knew they were the same.

ips

[quote=vanilla]I'm confused how enigma knew they were the same.[/quote]

ips
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#55
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Maybe in the future we can link people to this, http://teamfortress.tv/articles/view/52-introduction-to-competitive-tf2-part-1 instead of making a huge as thread?

Maybe in the future we can link people to this, http://teamfortress.tv/articles/view/52-introduction-to-competitive-tf2-part-1 instead of making a huge as thread?
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#56
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Fogshifty1gi have a strange feeling that this is an alt I have a strange feeling that you're dumb

mhm

[quote=Fog][quote=shifty1g]i have a strange feeling that this is an alt[/quote] I have a strange feeling that you're dumb[/quote]

mhm
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#57
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killemdeaderWhat the fuck was the point of this making an alt to post this? I do not understand in the slightest.

Wanted a new start and to try another class. I was getting flamed to no end and i thought a convincing alt would be better then a shitty alt.
So i fucked up my sensitivity to destroy my aim, bought a new mic, and made a new account intending to start on a blank slate and not post stupidly/remember to take my medication. Unfortunately i seem to have forgotten to release my old IP...

May seem stupid i know but i sort of poured my soul into this game and i would like to be able to play it unimpeded by my old opinions/posting habits.

Those who welcomed the new me to the community i thank you for your generosity and i have added you to my real account. Please accept my invite so that i may reimburse you for your kindness.

[quote=killemdeader]
What the fuck was the point of this making an alt to post this? I do not understand in the slightest.[/quote]
Wanted a new start and to try another class. I was getting flamed to no end and i thought a convincing alt would be better then a shitty alt.
So i fucked up my sensitivity to destroy my aim, bought a new mic, and made a new account intending to start on a blank slate and not post stupidly/remember to take my medication. Unfortunately i seem to have forgotten to release my old IP...

May seem stupid i know but i sort of poured my soul into this game and i would like to be able to play it unimpeded by my old opinions/posting habits.

Those who welcomed the new me to the community i thank you for your generosity and i have added you to my real account. Please accept my invite so that i may reimburse you for your kindness.
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#58
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That post right there is pretty much infinitely better than the new account circus bullshit

That post right there is pretty much infinitely better than the new account circus bullshit
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#59
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Mercyless-Fogshifty1gi have a strange feeling that this is an alt I have a strange feeling that you're dumb
mhm

Well, don't I feel dumb now?

[quote=Mercyless-][quote=Fog][quote=shifty1g]i have a strange feeling that this is an alt[/quote] I have a strange feeling that you're dumb[/quote]

mhm[/quote] Well, don't I feel dumb now?
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#60
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well he has a point
it's hard to play the game when your reputation is already tarnished to the point where you can't even find a team

well he has a point
it's hard to play the game when your reputation is already tarnished to the point where you can't even find a team
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