Do you have any idea how much a Polanski handmade tuba goes for? 1300 is a drop in the bucket.
loljkSo in a very protracted sense Lansky has cost the team $1,300.
No. The blame is solely on Carter.
No. The blame is solely on Carter.
enigmasteam error 50% of the time
Can vouch for that, bots sent 51,006 offers to users since May and while sending works 90% of the time, accepting works like 50%.
Can vouch for that, bots sent 51,006 offers to users since May and while sending works 90% of the time, accepting works like 50%.
why not just create a steam group for item signing and then gradually remove those who got their stuff signed
Sorry to hear about all the trouble. Hopefully it all gets worked out, you guys are my favorite team. I'll be sure to donate what I can.
DavyCash to attend cultural sensitivity training
Just make it a stretch goal and those who didn't want to donate to Froyo because of that could do it now :D
Just make it a stretch goal and those who didn't want to donate to Froyo because of that could do it now :D
loljkSo in a very protracted sense Lansky has cost the team $1,300.
Froyo without Lansky costs them money.
Lansky confirmed salaried player S20
Froyo without Lansky costs them money.
Lansky confirmed salaried player S20
So the last few days have been a wake up call for me. I've been using insulting words freely without realizing how badly it affects my team and our scene. It's immature and unprofessional especially when representing one of the top teams in the game, as well as disrespectful. The damage is kind of done but I still wanted to just apologize to anyone I might have offended. I'm really looking forward to i55 and I know this wouldn't be possible without the community and their donations. I don't want this event to be stained as a result of my behavior and I sincerely apologize about this and will be trying to conduct myself professionally going forward.
Thank you for your well put words Ash. I was troubled by these events but this helps put my heart and mind at ease.
Part of why I'm big on regional scenes and LANs is that meeting people in person changes things. Too easily are words batted around on the internet without regard for who's on the other end.
In discussions about this, other player's past behaviors also got brought up. All of those scenarios that happened in the past are equally troubling. Some of those players did in fact apologize, some didn't, there's too many occurances. Due to the effect his behavior had on the donation and it's potential ramifactions for the i55 campaign, Ash got spotlighted out but he is not the only one who has engaged in such behavior.
I hope that we all can learn from the seriousness of this issue and move forward in a positive direction. #glhfdonth8
Thanks for everyone's maturity so far in dealing with this issue.
Part of why I'm big on regional scenes and LANs is that meeting people in person changes things. Too easily are words batted around on the internet without regard for who's on the other end.
In discussions about this, other player's past behaviors also got brought up. All of those scenarios that happened in the past are equally troubling. Some of those players did in fact apologize, some didn't, there's too many occurances. Due to the effect his behavior had on the donation and it's potential ramifactions for the i55 campaign, Ash got spotlighted out but he is not the only one who has engaged in such behavior.
I hope that we all can learn from the seriousness of this issue and move forward in a positive direction. #glhfdonth8
Thanks for everyone's maturity so far in dealing with this issue.
ashSo the last few days have been a wake up call for me. I've been using insulting words freely without realizing how badly it affects my team and our scene. It's immature and unprofessional especially when representing one of the top teams in the game, as well as disrespectful. The damage is kind of done but I still wanted to just apologize to anyone I might have offended. I'm really looking forward to i55 and I know this wouldn't be possible without the community and their donations. I don't want this event to be stained as a result of my behavior and I sincerely apologize about this and will be trying to conduct myself professionally going forward.
I don't know if b4nny encouraged you to post something, but I was really hoping you would keep quiet. I'd love to believe this, but I'm fully aware that I personally became a "retard" and a "nigg er" after rescinding my contribution in addition to the events that led up to the retraction in the first place. Let's just call this what this really is...damage control. I do not accept your apology as I know nothing has actually changed. Your behavior and that of others like showstopper is cancerous.
I don't know if b4nny encouraged you to post something, but I was really hoping you would keep quiet. I'd love to believe this, but I'm fully aware that I personally became a "retard" and a "nigg er" after rescinding my contribution in addition to the events that led up to the retraction in the first place. Let's just call this what this really is...damage control. I do not accept your apology as I know nothing has actually changed. Your behavior and that of others like showstopper is cancerous.
dummyman you're vindictive
what do you want him to do?
I just know the smell of bullshit when it passes my nose. While writing his original apology and after I retracted my contribution, Ash was telling others how he really felt about me and the situation. I have no appetite for his posturing.
what do you want him to do?[/quote]
I just know the smell of bullshit when it passes my nose. While writing his original apology and after I retracted my contribution, Ash was telling others how he really felt about me and the situation. I have no appetite for his posturing.
dummyman you're vindictive
what do you want him to do?
He said what he wanted him to do: just shut up
I'm not really one to get offended by words but I kind of doubt that this actually changes anything for ash. Maybe he turns over a new leaf and stops saying dumb shit constantly but probably he continues to be a beacon of class for other retards who love his wacky antics
what do you want him to do?[/quote]
He said what he wanted him to do: just shut up
I'm not really one to get offended by words but I kind of doubt that this actually changes anything for ash. Maybe he turns over a new leaf and stops saying dumb shit constantly but probably he continues to be a beacon of class for other retards who love his wacky antics
The apology is nice, but lets see some actual change first.
The apology means nothing if you act like a tool 2 days from now.
The apology means nothing if you act like a tool 2 days from now.
owldummyman you're vindictive
what do you want him to do?
He said what he wanted him to do: just shut up
I'm not really one to get offended by words but I kind of doubt that this actually changes anything for ash. Maybe he turns over a new leaf and stops saying dumb shit constantly but probably he continues to be a beacon of class for other retards who love his wacky antics
Ash doesnt say anything -> everyone flips their shit that he's not even apologetic. Feel free to debate the sincerity, but trying to publicly decline his apology seems like an attention grab to me. It's more of an apology to the community anyway, If it was for medred he would contact him privately. Should we have every single person debate, accept/decline his apology on this thread now? I just find it confusing to respond to an apology with such hostility, If I found it insincere I wouldn't fuel the fire by arguing about it on the forums, but okay, I guess ash should have just hid away and never acknowledged the situation.
what do you want him to do?[/quote]
He said what he wanted him to do: just shut up
I'm not really one to get offended by words but I kind of doubt that this actually changes anything for ash. Maybe he turns over a new leaf and stops saying dumb shit constantly but probably he continues to be a beacon of class for other retards who love his wacky antics[/quote]
Ash doesnt say anything -> everyone flips their shit that he's not even apologetic. Feel free to debate the sincerity, but trying to publicly decline his apology seems like an attention grab to me. It's more of an apology to the community anyway, If it was for medred he would contact him privately. Should we have every single person debate, accept/decline his apology on this thread now? I just find it confusing to respond to an apology with such hostility, If I found it insincere I wouldn't fuel the fire by arguing about it on the forums, but okay, I guess ash should have just hid away and never acknowledged the situation.
dashnerI believe you taking offense and asking for a refund is 100% justified but come on man. Are we supposed to punish someone for showing remorse now? Froyo could have just refunded your money, moved on, and gone to i55 regardless and ignored this entire situation after b4nny made his post.
I think that as MedRed stated, and some others have picked up on, it's hearing ash saying the same shit ABOUT HIM, AFTER the donation was rescinded. And I can completely appreciate and agree with his view in this.
A public reply means fuck all - hopefully it actually gets proven by actions instead of words.
I think that as MedRed stated, and some others have picked up on, it's hearing ash saying the same shit ABOUT HIM, AFTER the donation was rescinded. And I can completely appreciate and agree with his view in this.
A public reply means fuck all - hopefully it actually gets proven by actions instead of words.
dashnerMedRedashSo the last few days have been a wake up call for me. I've been using insulting words freely without realizing how badly it affects my team and our scene. It's immature and unprofessional especially when representing one of the top teams in the game, as well as disrespectful. The damage is kind of done but I still wanted to just apologize to anyone I might have offended. I'm really looking forward to i55 and I know this wouldn't be possible without the community and their donations. I don't want this event to be stained as a result of my behavior and I sincerely apologize about this and will be trying to conduct myself professionally going forward.
I don't know if b4nny encouraged you to post something, but I was really hoping you would keep quiet. I'd love to believe this, but I'm fully aware that I personally became a "retard" and a "nigg er" after rescinding my contribution in addition to the events that led up to the retraction in the first place. Let's just call this what this really is...damage control. I do not accept your apology as I know nothing has actually changed. Your behavior and that of others like showstopper is cancerous.
He didn't have to make this post at all. He could have just ignored it entirely.
I believe you taking offense and asking for a refund is 100% justified but come on man. Are we supposed to punish someone for showing remorse now? Froyo could have just refunded your money, moved on, and gone to i55 regardless and ignored this entire situation after b4nny made his post.
Please see below. I'd be shocked if Ash wasn't encouraged to say something.
dummyowldummyman you're vindictive
what do you want him to do?
He said what he wanted him to do: just shut up
I'm not really one to get offended by words but I kind of doubt that this actually changes anything for ash. Maybe he turns over a new leaf and stops saying dumb shit constantly but probably he continues to be a beacon of class for other retards who love his wacky antics
Ash doesnt say anything -> everyone flips their shit that he's not even apologetic. Feel free to debate the sincerity, but trying to publicly decline his apology seems like an attention grab to me. It's more of an apology to the community anyway, If it was for medred he would contact him privately. Should we have every single person debate, accept/decline his apology on this thread now? I just find it confusing to respond to an apology with such hostility, If I found it insincere I wouldn't fuel the fire by arguing about it on the forums, but okay, I guess ash should have just hid away and never acknowledged the situation.
Remember, I wasn't the one making tftv posts after what was witnessed or adding a video guaranteed to have a fat number of views to my youtube channel. That would have been an attention grab. I don't care for Ash's apology because it's not real. He's sorry he's put his new team in a bind financially. He's sorry that he looks bad. He's not sorry for his actions. He told me it was my problem I was offended after he delivered a crowd sourced apology letter all while mf'ing me before, during, and after delivery. He went out of his way to call me the very thing that started situation AFTER I was not going to accept is apology and seek the refund. It's sad that simply saying "i'm sorry" is enough satisfy you. I'm sorry I'm not a sucker... Do you see how that works?
I don't know if b4nny encouraged you to post something, but I was really hoping you would keep quiet. I'd love to believe this, but I'm fully aware that I personally became a "retard" and a "nigg er" after rescinding my contribution in addition to the events that led up to the retraction in the first place. Let's just call this what this really is...damage control. I do not accept your apology as I know nothing has actually changed. Your behavior and that of others like showstopper is cancerous.[/quote]
He didn't have to make this post at all. He could have just ignored it entirely.
I believe you taking offense and asking for a refund is 100% justified but come on man. Are we supposed to punish someone for showing remorse now? Froyo could have just refunded your money, moved on, and gone to i55 regardless and ignored this entire situation after b4nny made his post.[/quote]
Please see below. I'd be shocked if Ash wasn't encouraged to say something.
[quote=dummy][quote=owl][quote=dummy]man you're vindictive
what do you want him to do?[/quote]
He said what he wanted him to do: just shut up
I'm not really one to get offended by words but I kind of doubt that this actually changes anything for ash. Maybe he turns over a new leaf and stops saying dumb shit constantly but probably he continues to be a beacon of class for other retards who love his wacky antics[/quote]
Ash doesnt say anything -> everyone flips their shit that he's not even apologetic. Feel free to debate the sincerity, but trying to publicly decline his apology seems like an attention grab to me. It's more of an apology to the community anyway, If it was for medred he would contact him privately. Should we have every single person debate, accept/decline his apology on this thread now? I just find it confusing to respond to an apology with such hostility, If I found it insincere I wouldn't fuel the fire by arguing about it on the forums, but okay, I guess ash should have just hid away and never acknowledged the situation.[/quote]
Remember, I wasn't the one making tftv posts after what was witnessed or adding a video guaranteed to have a fat number of views to my youtube channel. That would have been an attention grab. I don't care for Ash's apology because it's not real. He's sorry he's put his new team in a bind financially. He's sorry that he looks bad. He's not sorry for his actions. He told me it was my problem I was offended after he delivered a crowd sourced apology letter all while mf'ing me before, during, and after delivery. He went out of his way to call me the very thing that started situation AFTER I was not going to accept is apology and seek the refund. It's sad that simply saying "i'm sorry" is enough satisfy you. I'm sorry I'm not a sucker... Do you see how that works?
Im not telling you to accept the apology, im wondering why you are publicly declining it as if it was addressed to you specifically
Let's just.. uh... forget about all of this - b4nny's post was enough. If Froyo's donators don't think Ash has changed his behavior in the future, don't donate money to Froyo. If you feel so insulted, I'm sure you can also ask for a refund. Power lies with the donators, not the players. If this causes a big stress to Froyo, Ash will be cut. Simple business.
Donators, u the real mvp. I personally like MedRed asking for a refund, we shouldn't encourage idiotic behavior. Show some class and develop games into something where more people enjoy seeing real professionals play the game.
Donators, u the real mvp. I personally like MedRed asking for a refund, we shouldn't encourage idiotic behavior. Show some class and develop games into something where more people enjoy seeing real professionals play the game.
dummyIm not telling you to accept the apology, im wondering why you are publicly declining it as if it was addressed to you specifically
I am publicly cock blocking his bullshit.
I am publicly cock blocking his bullshit.