Rip my fps
TF2 update for 12/2/15
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This is going to be a huge issue for me. I'm legally blind so making details stand out more is really important. I have trouble seeing stickies and pipes on dx8 and it's even worse on dx9. Please valve :(
This is going to be a huge issue for me. I'm legally blind so making details stand out more is really important. I have trouble seeing stickies and pipes on dx8 and it's even worse on dx9. Please valve :(
wickedplayer494I'm personally glad that DX9 is a requirement. DX8 is extremely antiquated (it's from even before the Windows XP days). Sure you might complain "b-b-but my FPS!", but do you see CS:GO players playing on DX8 at Valve-sponsored tournaments? Didn't think so.
Well of course we don't see that, they didn't put DX8 into the game. I'm sure if it was an available option they would.
I feel that it is unnecessary to make it where only DX9 players can play competitive mode as in a few other competitive games people are allowed to use whichever settings they would like. But considering that we have seen the behaviors of the TF2 team and how they are a bit more communicative with us than before, there may be a good reason for doing so or an optimization update that would blow our minds(if you think about it, MM might attract new players, but the number of players you can attract and keep playing is kind of limited by the hardware). I definitely do support keeping DX8 on though as it has yielded fps increases for years.
[quote=wickedplayer494]I'm personally glad that DX9 is a requirement. DX8 is extremely antiquated (it's from even before the Windows XP days). Sure you might complain "b-b-but my FPS!", but do you see CS:GO players playing on DX8 at Valve-sponsored tournaments? Didn't think so.[/quote]
Well of course we don't see that, they didn't put DX8 into the game. I'm sure if it was an available option they would.
I feel that it is unnecessary to make it where only DX9 players can play competitive mode as in a few other competitive games people are allowed to use whichever settings they would like. But considering that we have seen the behaviors of the TF2 team and how they are a bit more communicative with us than before, there may be a good reason for doing so or an optimization update that would blow our minds(if you think about it, MM might attract new players, but the number of players you can attract and keep playing is kind of limited by the hardware). I definitely do support keeping DX8 on though as it has yielded fps increases for years.
Well of course we don't see that, they didn't put DX8 into the game. I'm sure if it was an available option they would.
I feel that it is unnecessary to make it where only DX9 players can play competitive mode as in a few other competitive games people are allowed to use whichever settings they would like. But considering that we have seen the behaviors of the TF2 team and how they are a bit more communicative with us than before, there may be a good reason for doing so or an optimization update that would blow our minds(if you think about it, MM might attract new players, but the number of players you can attract and keep playing is kind of limited by the hardware). I definitely do support keeping DX8 on though as it has yielded fps increases for years.
There is no technical reason I can think of that would warrant valve not letting people run dx8 in competitive.
Imo this may sound tinfoil but I think the fact that weapon skins don't display on dx8 is being underlooked
valve want to make it so you see weapon skins, so the all the fat idiot children are getting their monies worth when they buy some fucking purple dildo skin
it's so you have to see the fucking pathetically shit weapon skins when you play competitive
There is no technical reason I can think of that would warrant valve not letting people run dx8 in competitive.
Imo this may sound tinfoil but I think the fact that [i][b]weapon skins don't display on dx8 [/b][/i] is being underlooked
valve want to make it so you see weapon skins, so the all the fat idiot children are getting their monies worth when they buy some fucking purple dildo skin
it's so you have to see the fucking pathetically shit weapon skins when you play competitive
Imo this may sound tinfoil but I think the fact that [i][b]weapon skins don't display on dx8 [/b][/i] is being underlooked
valve want to make it so you see weapon skins, so the all the fat idiot children are getting their monies worth when they buy some fucking purple dildo skin
it's so you have to see the fucking pathetically shit weapon skins when you play competitive
I don't even like seeing the ugly skins, if I'm forced to switch to turn on dx9 I will do what I can to disable the ugly skins.
I don't even like seeing the ugly skins, if I'm forced to switch to turn on dx9 I will do what I can to disable the ugly skins.
I mean it sucks if we have to use dx9 and people that don't want to see skins have to, but you're not allowed to complain about TF2 not getting support from Valve if you refuse to support the methods they use to earn money and promote awareness for the competitive community with skins like they do in CSGO.
I can understand complaining about performance hits, but if you're complaining about something like skins which you aren't forced to buy and will likely support the competitive community/infrastructure of the game then you are really dumb.
I mean it sucks if we have to use dx9 and people that don't want to see skins have to, but you're not allowed to complain about TF2 not getting support from Valve if you refuse to support the methods they use to earn money and promote awareness for the competitive community with skins like they do in CSGO.
I can understand complaining about performance hits, but if you're complaining about something like skins which you aren't forced to buy and will likely support the competitive community/infrastructure of the game then you are really dumb.
I can understand complaining about performance hits, but if you're complaining about something like skins which you aren't forced to buy and will likely support the competitive community/infrastructure of the game then you are really dumb.
iskiieThere is no technical reason I can think of that would warrant valve not letting people run dx8 in competitive.
Imo this may sound tinfoil but I think the fact that weapon skins don't display on dx8 is being underlooked
valve want to make it so you see weapon skins, so the all the fat idiot children are getting their monies worth when they buy some fucking purple dildo skin
it's so you have to see the fucking pathetically shit weapon skins when you play competitive
this is definitely it imo
especially since they know most competitive oriented players use dx8 configs
recently they've been pushing steam market transactions and increasing trade restrictions to try and nickel and dime (the guise of account security is bs)
they make bank off tf2 but those shitters at valve have decided they now want to make $ at the cost of user experience. huge joke.
[quote=iskiie]There is no technical reason I can think of that would warrant valve not letting people run dx8 in competitive.
Imo this may sound tinfoil but I think the fact that [i][b]weapon skins don't display on dx8 [/b][/i] is being underlooked
valve want to make it so you see weapon skins, so the all the fat idiot children are getting their monies worth when they buy some fucking purple dildo skin
it's so you have to see the fucking pathetically shit weapon skins when you play competitive[/quote]
this is definitely it imo
especially since they know most competitive oriented players use dx8 configs
recently they've been pushing steam market transactions and increasing trade restrictions to try and nickel and dime (the guise of account security is bs)
they make bank off tf2 but those shitters at valve have decided they now want to make $ at the cost of user experience. huge joke.
Imo this may sound tinfoil but I think the fact that [i][b]weapon skins don't display on dx8 [/b][/i] is being underlooked
valve want to make it so you see weapon skins, so the all the fat idiot children are getting their monies worth when they buy some fucking purple dildo skin
it's so you have to see the fucking pathetically shit weapon skins when you play competitive[/quote]
this is definitely it imo
especially since they know most competitive oriented players use dx8 configs
recently they've been pushing steam market transactions and increasing trade restrictions to try and nickel and dime (the guise of account security is bs)
they make bank off tf2 but those shitters at valve have decided they now want to make $ at the cost of user experience. huge joke.
i dont fucking care about some kids skins i want FRAMES
i dont fucking care about some kids skins i want FRAMES
dota 2 and csgo have had skins the entire time. you guys need to calm down
dota 2 and csgo have had skins the entire time. you guys need to calm down
if you have anything released within the past 5 years, play the game with no config on dx9, youre complaining about something that isnt broken
if you have anything released within the past 5 years, play the game with no config on dx9, youre complaining about something that isnt broken
I mean yeah its kinda shitty but on the other side of the coin valve is forcing uniformity finally. May suck because you lose all of the cool little things but its a must if they plan on doing something competitive with it...
I mean yeah its kinda shitty but on the other side of the coin valve is forcing uniformity finally. May suck because you lose all of the cool little things but its a must if they plan on doing something competitive with it...
if valve actually optimized tf2 it wouldn't be a problem though
if valve actually optimized tf2 it wouldn't be a problem though
looking at the message perhaps it will only be official matchmaking servers that require dx9 and maybe you'll be able to use dx8 on normal servers? not sure why they would do even that though
looking at the message perhaps it will only be official matchmaking servers that require dx9 and maybe you'll be able to use dx8 on normal servers? not sure why they would do even that though
I get pretty good frames on dx9 and dx8, the frame rate difference between the two is minimal for me. That being said, I just prefer everything about dx8 excluding the cart/player outlines in dx9.
There's so much less visual clutter on the screen, I just prefer the lighting of dx8, and the game feels smoother even though I'm still getting over 150+ regardless of dxlevel
I get pretty good frames on dx9 and dx8, the frame rate difference between the two is minimal for me. That being said, I just prefer everything about dx8 excluding the cart/player outlines in dx9.
There's so much less visual clutter on the screen, I just prefer the lighting of dx8, and the game feels smoother even though I'm still getting over 150+ regardless of dxlevel
There's so much less visual clutter on the screen, I just prefer the lighting of dx8, and the game feels smoother even though I'm still getting over 150+ regardless of dxlevel
kounterpartsif you have anything released within the past 5 years, play the game with no config on dx9, youre complaining about something that isnt broken
I feel like if hundreds/thousands of people are experiencing the problem it's probably real
HobNobslooking at the message perhaps it will only be official matchmaking servers that require dx9 and maybe you'll be able to use dx8 on normal servers? not sure why they would do even that though
Yeah that's what we are discussing
[quote=kounterparts]if you have anything released within the past 5 years, play the game with no config on dx9, youre complaining about something that isnt broken[/quote]
I feel like if hundreds/thousands of people are experiencing the problem it's probably real
[quote=HobNobs]looking at the message perhaps it will only be official matchmaking servers that require dx9 and maybe you'll be able to use dx8 on normal servers? [b]not sure why they would do even that though[/b][/quote]
Yeah that's what we are discussing
I feel like if hundreds/thousands of people are experiencing the problem it's probably real
[quote=HobNobs]looking at the message perhaps it will only be official matchmaking servers that require dx9 and maybe you'll be able to use dx8 on normal servers? [b]not sure why they would do even that though[/b][/quote]
Yeah that's what we are discussing
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+optional bool two_factor_enabled = 11 [default = false];
+CTFGCClientSystem::BIsTwoFactorEnabled()
+two_factor_enabled
2 factor auth required for mm?
[quote]+optional bool two_factor_enabled = 22 [default = false];
+optional bool two_factor_enabled = 11 [default = false];
+CTFGCClientSystem::BIsTwoFactorEnabled()
+two_factor_enabled[/quote]
2 factor auth required for mm?
+optional bool two_factor_enabled = 11 [default = false];
+CTFGCClientSystem::BIsTwoFactorEnabled()
+two_factor_enabled[/quote]
2 factor auth required for mm?
Of course they're killing off dx8 because of skins, why is it not obvious, it's the main difference to dx9 since the last updates, and obviously they wanna make skins a real thing that has a lot of leverage in the game and comp community like in CSGO which is definitely not a bad thing.
The bad thing is that the current skins are vomit inducing and that the game is as optimized as my cities skylines' save traffic grid.
If they actually release some real performance and optimization updates I see no reason why we should fear this (a valve employee did hint at something on the tf2 subreddit but nothing major came off it yet)
Personally it doesn't affect me because I haven't used dx8 in over 4 years, I have customized my dx9 config as the time goes on and I feel I get decent performance with it, in 6s and HL I very rarely go below 120 fps (although thats not really fantastic, but it's very playable).
There's still certain things that fuck with performance tho, certain skins, horrible taunts with particle effects (meet the medic, etc), obnoxious professional killstreak effects. Theres a lot of shit I would like to turn off in the game, more even for how obnoxious they are than the performance impact they have.
Of course they're killing off dx8 because of skins, why is it not obvious, it's the main difference to dx9 since the last updates, and obviously they wanna make skins a real thing that has a lot of leverage in the game and comp community like in CSGO which is definitely not a bad thing.
The bad thing is that the current skins are vomit inducing and that the game is as optimized as my cities skylines' save traffic grid.
If they actually release some real performance and optimization updates I see no reason why we should fear this (a valve employee [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3gm3w3/performance_open_letter_to_valve_employees/cu1cddf?context=3]did hint[/url] at something on the tf2 subreddit but nothing major came off it yet)
Personally it doesn't affect me because I haven't used dx8 in over 4 years, I have customized my dx9 config as the time goes on and I feel I get decent performance with it, in 6s and HL I very rarely go below 120 fps (although thats not really fantastic, but it's very playable).
There's still certain things that fuck with performance tho, certain skins, horrible taunts with particle effects (meet the medic, etc), obnoxious professional killstreak effects. Theres a lot of shit I would like to turn off in the game, more even for how obnoxious they are than the performance impact they have.
The bad thing is that the current skins are vomit inducing and that the game is as optimized as my cities skylines' save traffic grid.
If they actually release some real performance and optimization updates I see no reason why we should fear this (a valve employee [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3gm3w3/performance_open_letter_to_valve_employees/cu1cddf?context=3]did hint[/url] at something on the tf2 subreddit but nothing major came off it yet)
Personally it doesn't affect me because I haven't used dx8 in over 4 years, I have customized my dx9 config as the time goes on and I feel I get decent performance with it, in 6s and HL I very rarely go below 120 fps (although thats not really fantastic, but it's very playable).
There's still certain things that fuck with performance tho, certain skins, horrible taunts with particle effects (meet the medic, etc), obnoxious professional killstreak effects. Theres a lot of shit I would like to turn off in the game, more even for how obnoxious they are than the performance impact they have.
how do you even make the game use your gpu more? do you just have to enable dx9? or is it something else that's more complicated?
how do you even make the game use your gpu more? do you just have to enable dx9? or is it something else that's more complicated?
sombrezhow do you even make the game use your gpu more? do you just have to enable dx9? or is it something else that's more complicated?
turn up textures and stuff so that it gets offloaded from cpu and put on gpu or something
[quote=sombrez]how do you even make the game use your gpu more? do you just have to enable dx9? or is it something else that's more complicated?[/quote]
turn up textures and stuff so that it gets offloaded from cpu and put on gpu or something
turn up textures and stuff so that it gets offloaded from cpu and put on gpu or something
fade-sombrezhow do you even make the game use your gpu more? do you just have to enable dx9? or is it something else that's more complicated?
turn up textures and stuff so that it gets offloaded from cpu and put on gpu or something
no it doesn't
TF2 is a very black and white in what they use in resources
example 1 mat_picmip will always use you gpu regardless of setting
example 2 r_lod will always use your cpu
this is true for basically every graphic related command in tf2
[quote=fade-][quote=sombrez]how do you even make the game use your gpu more? do you just have to enable dx9? or is it something else that's more complicated?[/quote]
turn up textures and stuff so that it gets offloaded from cpu and put on gpu or something[/quote]
no it doesn't
TF2 is a very black and white in what they use in resources
example 1 mat_picmip will always use you gpu regardless of setting
example 2 r_lod will always use your cpu
this is true for basically every graphic related command in tf2
turn up textures and stuff so that it gets offloaded from cpu and put on gpu or something[/quote]
no it doesn't
TF2 is a very black and white in what they use in resources
example 1 mat_picmip will always use you gpu regardless of setting
example 2 r_lod will always use your cpu
this is true for basically every graphic related command in tf2
I wouldn't mind dx9 nearly as much if valve hadn't spent the past 3 years doing nothing but filling the game with retarded particle effects and skins for pretty much fucking everything that's not a map prop.
I wouldn't mind dx9 nearly as much if valve hadn't spent the past 3 years doing nothing but filling the game with retarded particle effects and skins for pretty much fucking everything that's not a map prop.
Apparently there beta matchmaking passes b4nny just got one on stream
Apparently there beta matchmaking passes b4nny just got one on stream
eeehttp://i.imgur.com/RMUeMlc.png
fuck this is gonna be overwatch beta all over again
[quote=eee][img]http://i.imgur.com/RMUeMlc.png[/img][/quote]
fuck this is gonna be overwatch beta all over again
fuck this is gonna be overwatch beta all over again
realistic expectation is that people with either >x hours or UGC badges will get first priority, as well as well known community leaders
realistic expectation is that people with either >x hours or UGC badges will get first priority, as well as well known community leaders
valve give me one i have LOTS of elo in mge so i HAVE to be good
:)
valve give me one i have LOTS of elo in mge so i HAVE to be good
:)
:)
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