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The Tough Break Update
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#121
1 Frags +

alright i wasn't sure about hte outlines. You could still see like an engineer or something to the right of your spawn door. Seems like a subtle spy nerf which probably wasn't needed

alright i wasn't sure about hte outlines. You could still see like an engineer or something to the right of your spawn door. Seems like a subtle spy nerf which probably wasn't needed
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#122
4 Frags +

also, to quickly throw out a point (since I am now seeing redditors mad at pyro nerfs, god bless them):

valve obsesses over data. we're already well aware of this, look at any blog post mentioning changes in CSGO and DOTA2 and they talk about it all the time.

knowing this, keep in mind that the data valve likely has on pyro will consist almost entirely of degreaser/stock/powerjack, and nothing else. calm the fuck down, look for the long term here

also, to quickly throw out a point (since I am now seeing redditors mad at pyro nerfs, god bless them):

valve obsesses over data. we're already well aware of this, look at any blog post mentioning changes in CSGO and DOTA2 and they talk about it all the time.

knowing this, keep in mind that the data valve likely has on pyro will consist almost entirely of degreaser/stock/powerjack, and nothing else. calm the fuck down, look for the long term here
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#123
20 Frags +

Also these outlines might be part of why they want everybody to use dx9, afaik the outline effect doesn't work in dx8

Also these outlines might be part of why they want everybody to use dx9, afaik the outline effect doesn't work in dx8
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#124
-6 Frags +
ValveAll

Demoman
Loose Cannon
- Reduced projectile speed (now a visible attribute)
- Reduced cannon impact damage from 60 to 50. Damage also scales with distance.
- Reduced knockback from cannon hit. Knockback strength is now similar to airblast.

http://www.quickmeme.com/Are-you-not-entertained

[quote=Valve][b][u]All[/u][/b]

[b][u]Demoman[/u][/b]
[b]Loose Cannon[/b]
- Reduced projectile speed (now a visible attribute)
- Reduced cannon impact damage from 60 to 50. Damage also scales with distance.
- Reduced knockback from cannon hit. Knockback strength is now similar to airblast.
[/quote]
http://www.quickmeme.com/Are-you-not-entertained
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#125
9 Frags +

as a medic main I am crying tears of joy

as a medic main I am crying tears of joy
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#126
-3 Frags +
trashalso, to quickly throw out a point (since I am now seeing redditors mad at pyro nerfs, god bless them):

valve obsesses over data. we're already well aware of this, look at any blog post mentioning changes in CSGO and DOTA2 and they talk about it all the time.

knowing this, keep in mind that the data valve likely has on pyro will consist almost entirely of degreaser/stock/powerjack, and nothing else. calm the fuck down, look for the long term here

I question their data because I dont think ive ever seen a phlog pyro keep less than a ~2:1 KD

it didnt need a buff lol

[quote=trash]also, to quickly throw out a point (since I am now seeing redditors mad at pyro nerfs, god bless them):

valve obsesses over data. we're already well aware of this, look at any blog post mentioning changes in CSGO and DOTA2 and they talk about it all the time.

knowing this, keep in mind that the data valve likely has on pyro will consist almost entirely of degreaser/stock/powerjack, and nothing else. calm the fuck down, look for the long term here[/quote]
I question their data because I dont think ive ever seen a phlog pyro keep less than a ~2:1 KD

it didnt need a buff lol
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#127
2 Frags +

Scroll down the the bottom of the page, there is a text above the fireplace, saying Merry Smissmas.
What I think Day 2 will be (if there is a day 2) is the smissmas update.
EDIT: holy shit i was right :D

Scroll down the the bottom of the page, there is a text above the fireplace, saying Merry Smissmas.
What I think Day 2 will be (if there is a day 2) is the smissmas update.
EDIT: holy shit i was right :D
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#128
1 Frags +
eeetrashalso, to quickly throw out a point (since I am now seeing redditors mad at pyro nerfs, god bless them):

valve obsesses over data. we're already well aware of this, look at any blog post mentioning changes in CSGO and DOTA2 and they talk about it all the time.

knowing this, keep in mind that the data valve likely has on pyro will consist almost entirely of degreaser/stock/powerjack, and nothing else. calm the fuck down, look for the long term here
I question their data because I dont think ive ever seen a phlog pyro keep less than a ~2:1 KD

it didnt need a buff lol

Ya but their data is mostly incompetent pub players who see somebody raping people with the phlog and then try it themselves only to get 0 frags

[quote=eee][quote=trash]also, to quickly throw out a point (since I am now seeing redditors mad at pyro nerfs, god bless them):

valve obsesses over data. we're already well aware of this, look at any blog post mentioning changes in CSGO and DOTA2 and they talk about it all the time.

knowing this, keep in mind that the data valve likely has on pyro will consist almost entirely of degreaser/stock/powerjack, and nothing else. calm the fuck down, look for the long term here[/quote]
I question their data because I dont think ive ever seen a phlog pyro keep less than a ~2:1 KD

it didnt need a buff lol[/quote]

Ya but their data is mostly incompetent pub players who see somebody raping people with the phlog and then try it themselves only to get 0 frags
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#129
3 Frags +

I question a data set that only looks at median or w/e and doesn't notice that there's a weird distribution where the ~80th percentile of users suddenly jumps from .3 KD to 4 KD

like that's not good statistics at all

I question a data set that only looks at median or w/e and doesn't notice that there's a weird distribution where the ~80th percentile of users suddenly jumps from .3 KD to 4 KD

like that's not good statistics at all
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#130
6 Frags +

im struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?

im struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?
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#131
8 Frags +
BumFreezeim struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?

They are pretty useful for medics, and also might be a reason that they want dx9

[quote=BumFreeze]im struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?[/quote]
They are pretty useful for medics, and also might be a reason that they want dx9
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#132
2 Frags +
BumFreezeim struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?

likely for newer players to tell them when their teammates respawned, while comp players are obviously used to just hitting tab regularly that's not exactly intuitive

[quote=BumFreeze]im struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?[/quote]
likely for newer players to tell them when their teammates respawned, while comp players are obviously used to just hitting tab regularly that's not exactly intuitive
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#133
2 Frags +
BumFreezeim struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?

i've noticed that a lot of newer players dont notice when their teammates spawn with them; this is in particular annoying when a medic doesn't notice that i spawned with them

[quote=BumFreeze]im struggling to understand what is the point of these outlines on spawning?[/quote]
i've noticed that a lot of newer players dont notice when their teammates spawn with them; this is in particular annoying when a medic doesn't notice that i spawned with them
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#134
38 Frags +

when you spawn as scout alone after you die, you no longer have to waste comms asking 'where is everyone'

when you spawn as scout alone after you die, you no longer have to waste comms asking 'where is everyone'
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#135
0 Frags +
eeeI question a data set that only looks at median or w/e and doesn't notice that there's a weird distribution where the ~80th percentile of users suddenly jumps from .3 KD to 4 KD

like that's not good statistics at all

Well the CZ-75 was completely broken (like more broken than any gun in recent tf2 history) and the CSGO team left it in the game for months because it was bad at a lower skill level. I really doubt that anybody at Valve cares about higher skill gameplay. If they did they wouldn't have nerfed demo.

[quote=eee]I question a data set that only looks at median or w/e and doesn't notice that there's a weird distribution where the ~80th percentile of users suddenly jumps from .3 KD to 4 KD

like that's not good statistics at all[/quote]

Well the CZ-75 was completely broken (like more broken than any gun in recent tf2 history) and the CSGO team left it in the game for months because it was bad at a lower skill level. I really doubt that anybody at Valve cares about higher skill gameplay. If they did they wouldn't have nerfed demo.
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#136
5 Frags +

this does seem awfujlly free of the normal valve stuff like map patches and whatnot, day 2 will probably have all of that revealed in patch notes along with the weapons. Hopefully we get that performance update

this does seem awfujlly free of the normal valve stuff like map patches and whatnot, day 2 will probably have all of that revealed in patch notes along with the weapons. Hopefully we get that performance update
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#137
3 Frags +

Go Valve!

Go Valve!
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#138
-2 Frags +

Will disguised spy outlines show up? I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't but if they do, RIP spawncamping.

Will disguised spy outlines show up? I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't but if they do, RIP spawncamping.
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#139
22 Frags +

I wouldn't get too excited about a multi-day update, seems it was just left over from gun mettle.

http://puu.sh/lZpCR/0a2a154b70.png

I wouldn't get too excited about a multi-day update, seems it was just left over from gun mettle.

[img]http://puu.sh/lZpCR/0a2a154b70.png[/img]
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#140
-15 Frags +

mind as well make the weapon switch time instant to make the game ever more fast pace'd AND MORE FUN x-x

mind as well make the weapon switch time instant to make the game ever more fast pace'd AND MORE FUN x-x
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#141
4 Frags +

thinking more about pyro changes... they likely want to make pyro a more all-around class for pubbers, since they're clearly pushing 6s as their first gig on matchmaking, and they don't want to tell players of one of the most common pub classes "hey sorry, you're only gonna be used to stack your few good values when defending last, cya"

idk if that's worrying or not. maybe all the bullshit will be gone by then, who knows

thinking more about pyro changes... they likely want to make pyro a more all-around class for pubbers, since they're clearly pushing 6s as their first gig on matchmaking, and they don't want to tell players of one of the most common pub classes "hey sorry, you're only gonna be used to stack your few good values when defending last, cya"

idk if that's worrying or not. maybe all the bullshit will be gone by then, who knows
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#142
-5 Frags +

when pyros a shit class now

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/41/3.0

when pyros a shit class now [img]https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/41/3.0[/img]
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#143
20 Frags +

Here she comes boys!

http://i.imgur.com/zJoLdc2.png

Here she comes boys!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zJoLdc2.png[/img]
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#144
-25 Frags +

Apparently it might be a multi day update..
http://www.teamfortress.com/toughbreak/toughbreak.css and ctrl+f search for "day one"

Apparently it might be a multi day update..
http://www.teamfortress.com/toughbreak/toughbreak.css and ctrl+f search for "day one"
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#145
8 Frags +

xbow still can't headshot..

xbow still can't headshot..
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#146
-1 Frags +
Valve

Loose Cannon
- Reduced projectile speed (now a visible attribute)
- Reduced cannon impact damage from 60 to 50. Damage also scales with distance.
- Reduced knockback from cannon hit. Knockback strength is now similar to airblast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndeDfaWCg

My demo WAS FURIOUS

[quote=Valve][b][u][/u][/b]

[b]Loose Cannon[/b]
- Reduced projectile speed (now a visible attribute)
- Reduced cannon impact damage from 60 to 50. Damage also scales with distance.
- Reduced knockback from cannon hit. Knockback strength is now similar to airblast.

[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndeDfaWCg

My demo WAS FURIOUS
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#147
-6 Frags +

ninjarino'd

ninjarino'd
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#148
1 Frags +

Tough break for b||oodsire. no classic buff

[i]Tough break[/i] for b||oodsire. no classic buff
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#149
18 Frags +
Puckxbow still can't headshot..

you realize how ez and retarded that would be?

[quote=Puck]xbow still can't headshot..[/quote]
you realize how ez and retarded that would be?
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#150
6 Frags +

If medic gets more health regen when healing a target, does that mean bombing the med is slightly harder now?

If medic gets more health regen when healing a target, does that mean bombing the med is slightly harder now?
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