Oh, one other idea, just exchange your modem. Say that it keeps restarting at their office, they never check and they will just give you another. 99 percent of the time, this will change your IP since your MAC ID to the router will be different too, then just get a F2P account.
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Oh, one other idea, just exchange your modem. Say that it keeps restarting at their office, they never check and they will just give you another. 99 percent of the time, this will change your IP since your MAC ID to the router will be different too, then just get a F2P account.
TheFragileHonestly, you'll probably need to go unnoticed with this ban lifting, considering other people who want their bans lifted on different accounts will say "Well, look at this! This Swatt guy got unbanned, why can't I?"
He needs a new ip. staying low does nothing if his ip is still tagged by the system.
[quote=TheFragile]Honestly, you'll probably need to go unnoticed with this ban lifting, considering other people who want their bans lifted on different accounts will say "Well, look at this! This Swatt guy got unbanned, why can't I?"[/quote]
He needs a new ip. staying low does nothing if his ip is still tagged by the system.
He needs a new ip. staying low does nothing if his ip is still tagged by the system.
It's a long shot, but you could try calling your provider to see if they could move you to a different backbone on their network. I called in a ton of times to Comcast a few years back when my ping went to shit, and they did this for me...with it i noticed i got a new IP address because IRC G-lined me for logging into my account right after i got switched over lol.
It's a long shot, but you could try calling your provider to see if they could move you to a different backbone on their network. I called in a ton of times to Comcast a few years back when my ping went to shit, and they did this for me...with it i noticed i got a new IP address because IRC G-lined me for logging into my account right after i got switched over lol.
this is obviously something that an exception should be made for since you've already served out the previous ban for it but unless kalkin or killing get it undone for you you're probably boned. Out of curiosity are you sure this is actually ip related and not just because your account is tied to caseythecat's account which is presumably still banned. I find it weird that you've retained the same ip address for this long unless you're on university internet.
this is obviously something that an exception should be made for since you've already served out the previous ban for it but unless kalkin or killing get it undone for you you're probably boned. Out of curiosity are you sure this is actually ip related and not just because your account is tied to caseythecat's account which is presumably still banned. I find it weird that you've retained the same ip address for this long unless you're on university internet.
I'll talk to my dad about doing a small court claim, I can probably rack up the two amounts they owe me, I'll need to do research about it before hand. And I've been wanting to get my network fixed for a while now. My ping constantly jumps up to 500~ and stutters constantly, so this will just give me an excuse to do so. Anyways, I doubt ESEA cares anymore. They still havent replied to my last email re-clarifying how my account being banned wasnt due to irresponsibility, but rather because of a flawed system. They wont admit it though.
conductorthis is obviously something that an exception should be made for since you've already served out the previous ban for it but unless kalkin or killing get it undone for you you're probably boned. Out of curiosity are you sure this is actually ip related and not just because your account is tied to caseythecat's account which is presumably still banned. I find it weird that you've retained the same ip address for this long unless you're on university internet.
They've never thrown out an exception for automated bans, not that I've heard of atleast.
And I'm fairly certain that it's IP related, since there is absolutely no way of them accessing my account as I had reformatted twice since getting banned and I have changed my passwords and associated emails multiple times.
And caseythecat has access to multiple accounts, when one gets banned, they all get banned.
And Canadian internet is horrible if you haven't noticed.
I'll talk to my dad about doing a small court claim, I can probably rack up the two amounts they owe me, I'll need to do research about it before hand. And I've been wanting to get my network fixed for a while now. My ping constantly jumps up to 500~ and stutters constantly, so this will just give me an excuse to do so. Anyways, I doubt ESEA cares anymore. They still havent replied to my last email re-clarifying how my account being banned wasnt due to irresponsibility, but rather because of a flawed system. They wont admit it though.
[quote=conductor]this is obviously something that an exception should be made for since you've already served out the previous ban for it but unless kalkin or killing get it undone for you you're probably boned. Out of curiosity are you sure this is actually ip related and not just because your account is tied to caseythecat's account which is presumably still banned. I find it weird that you've retained the same ip address for this long unless you're on university internet.[/quote]
They've never thrown out an exception for automated bans, not that I've heard of atleast.
And I'm fairly certain that it's IP related, since there is absolutely no way of them accessing my account as I had reformatted twice since getting banned and I have changed my passwords and associated emails multiple times.
And caseythecat has access to multiple accounts, when one gets banned, they all get banned.
And Canadian internet is horrible if you haven't noticed.
[quote=conductor]this is obviously something that an exception should be made for since you've already served out the previous ban for it but unless kalkin or killing get it undone for you you're probably boned. Out of curiosity are you sure this is actually ip related and not just because your account is tied to caseythecat's account which is presumably still banned. I find it weird that you've retained the same ip address for this long unless you're on university internet.[/quote]
They've never thrown out an exception for automated bans, not that I've heard of atleast.
And I'm fairly certain that it's IP related, since there is absolutely no way of them accessing my account as I had reformatted twice since getting banned and I have changed my passwords and associated emails multiple times.
And caseythecat has access to multiple accounts, when one gets banned, they all get banned.
And Canadian internet is horrible if you haven't noticed.
killing/kalkin can you say anything at all to your higher ups about this or give any insight of your own to the situation or is it just going to be a problem forever
killing/kalkin can you say anything at all to your higher ups about this or give any insight of your own to the situation or is it just going to be a problem forever
Naw, they can't do shit. I've talked to them before, and despite them doing everything in their power to help me, they're unable to help because ESEA will not let them have full administrative powers. They're limited to rescheduling and helping minor issues, that's about it. They're unable to handle support tickets or unban players.
Naw, they can't do shit. I've talked to them before, and despite them doing everything in their power to help me, they're unable to help because ESEA will not let them have full administrative powers. They're limited to rescheduling and helping minor issues, that's about it. They're unable to handle support tickets or unban players.
If no changes are made to their system, then I hope CEVO does a good job. Just saying.
Well, I hope CEVO does well regardless but still.
If no changes are made to their system, then I hope CEVO does a good job. Just saying.
Well, I hope CEVO does well regardless but still.
Well, I hope CEVO does well regardless but still.
CEVO is so stupid, apparently extra config files can be considered cheating. You can only edit existing ones that go with the tf2 installation.
CEVO is so stupid, apparently extra config files can be considered cheating. You can only edit existing ones that go with the tf2 installation.
Wait, you can't have custom HUDs even, because the files are not found in the tf folder initially? Also, it sucks that you can't use crosshair switchers (I assume that's the case).
Are POV demos required in CEVO? It would get annoying to have to manually start the recording.
Edit: I would have said UGC but... yeah, you get where I'm going with this. No offense to Marxist, he's fine.
Wait, you can't have custom HUDs even, because the files are not found in the tf folder initially? Also, it sucks that you can't use crosshair switchers (I assume that's the case).
Are POV demos required in CEVO? It would get annoying to have to manually start the recording.
Edit: I would have said UGC but... yeah, you get where I'm going with this. No offense to Marxist, he's fine.
Are POV demos required in CEVO? It would get annoying to have to manually start the recording.
Edit: I would have said UGC but... yeah, you get where I'm going with this. No offense to Marxist, he's fine.
@hooky, I've played a season of UGC, and have to say that so far, it was a hell of a lot better time than playing ESEA.
@hooky, I've played a season of UGC, and have to say that so far, it was a hell of a lot better time than playing ESEA.
brownymasterTheFragileHonestly, you'll probably need to go unnoticed with this ban lifting, considering other people who want their bans lifted on different accounts will say "Well, look at this! This Swatt guy got unbanned, why can't I?"He needs a new ip. staying low does nothing if his ip is still tagged by the system.
I'm saying if they remove that other guy's IP off of Swatt's account, he should make sure he isn't too public about it if ESEA made such an exception for him.
[quote=brownymaster][quote=TheFragile]Honestly, you'll probably need to go unnoticed with this ban lifting, considering other people who want their bans lifted on different accounts will say "Well, look at this! This Swatt guy got unbanned, why can't I?"[/quote] He needs a new ip. staying low does nothing if his ip is still tagged by the system.[/quote]
I'm saying if they remove that other guy's IP off of Swatt's account, he should make sure he isn't too public about it if ESEA made such an exception for him.
I'm saying if they remove that other guy's IP off of Swatt's account, he should make sure he isn't too public about it if ESEA made such an exception for him.
reilly@hooky, I've played a season of UGC, and have to say that so far, it was a hell of a lot better time than playing ESEA.
It's not the league, but a certain admin who seems to prefer speaking for all of them here.
[quote=reilly]@hooky, I've played a season of UGC, and have to say that so far, it was a hell of a lot better time than playing ESEA.[/quote]
It's not the league, but a certain admin who seems to prefer speaking for all of them here.
It's not the league, but a certain admin who seems to prefer speaking for all of them here.
I did some digging and discovered this,
It's a cached page from google to a forum thread containing the exact HUD you were talking about and has users posting that it indeed contains an injection. (OP posted a fake virus scan to try and cover it up)
Idk if it's any help to you, but it might give you some more material to work with your ban appeal.
I did some digging and discovered this,
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:unUeciJUo5kJ:www.hackforums.net/archive/index.php/thread-1591622.html+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk
It's a cached page from google to a forum thread containing the exact HUD you were talking about and has users posting that it indeed contains an injection. (OP posted a fake virus scan to try and cover it up)
Idk if it's any help to you, but it might give you some more material to work with your ban appeal.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:unUeciJUo5kJ:www.hackforums.net/archive/index.php/thread-1591622.html+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk
It's a cached page from google to a forum thread containing the exact HUD you were talking about and has users posting that it indeed contains an injection. (OP posted a fake virus scan to try and cover it up)
Idk if it's any help to you, but it might give you some more material to work with your ban appeal.
Damn i was looking forward to playing in esea after i was unbanned......
Damn i was looking forward to playing in esea after i was unbanned......
To Nemrawd and Swatt: Try to switch IPs, then wait until you're unbanned and make a new ESEA account. Easiest solution if you're even still willing to play in ESEA. ESEA won't be doing anything about it unless something happens and causes ESEA to lose money or something, like an exodus to other leagues which has a very low chance of happening.
Edit: fixed nemrawd's name, swatt is apparently stupid with names
To Nemrawd and Swatt: Try to switch IPs, then wait until you're unbanned and make a new ESEA account. Easiest solution if you're even still willing to play in ESEA. ESEA won't be doing anything about it unless something happens and causes ESEA to lose money or something, like an exodus to other leagues which has a very low chance of happening.
Edit: fixed nemrawd's name, swatt is apparently stupid with names
Edit: fixed nemrawd's name, swatt is apparently stupid with names
I'm making accusations again, I'm not 100% sure if the reason I got banned was because of an IP related issue, although, I'm fairly certain it is since I've done two system wipes since I installed the keylogger, and I've done a fair bit of random virus searches. Still, I'm going to contact ESEA and see if I can find additional information about my ban.
I'm making accusations again, I'm not 100% sure if the reason I got banned was because of an IP related issue, although, I'm fairly certain it is since I've done two system wipes since I installed the keylogger, and I've done a fair bit of random virus searches. Still, I'm going to contact ESEA and see if I can find additional information about my ban.
The sheer absurdity of this response is unsettling. Although, no surprise. I like ESEA as a league and an idea, but the people who handle support tickets and simple administrative processes are wrongfully rigid. Whether it's the rules' fault or theirs for upholding what seems to be rules written by a first grader, something should change. Dummy got some type of website ban recently for sending a support ticket to ask for an exception to the STEAMID change limit, because his main account suddenly started lagging more in TF2 than his alt, or something similar. They banned him for not reading the rules. They have no idea how to handle extenuating circumstances.
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The sheer absurdity of this response is unsettling. Although, no surprise. I like ESEA as a league and an idea, but the people who handle support tickets and simple administrative processes are wrongfully rigid. Whether it's the rules' fault or theirs for upholding what seems to be rules written by a first grader, something should change. Dummy got some type of website ban recently for sending a support ticket to ask for an exception to the STEAMID change limit, because his main account suddenly started lagging more in TF2 than his alt, or something similar. They banned him for not reading the rules. They have no idea how to handle extenuating circumstances.
The sheer absurdity of this response is unsettling. Although, no surprise. I like ESEA as a league and an idea, but the people who handle support tickets and simple administrative processes are wrongfully rigid. Whether it's the rules' fault or theirs for upholding what seems to be rules written by a first grader, something should change. Dummy got some type of website ban recently for sending a support ticket to ask for an exception to the STEAMID change limit, because his main account suddenly started lagging more in TF2 than his alt, or something similar. They banned him for not reading the rules. They have no idea how to handle extenuating circumstances.
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These are from the ESEA premium terms and conditions along with the terms of sale. It says nothing about a hacked account with premium. Also, after reading the limitations on liability, the chances of getting money back are slim without one on one time with an admin who understands the situation.
[quote]Right to Ban and/or Suspend Account
ESEA reserves the right to suspend and or remove a Premium account without notice and without refund for any reason, including but not limited to the prohibited conduct set forth in section 4 above, monthly "Low Karma," attempting to evade a previously placed ban, violation of any of the provisions of the Terms of Use (http://esea.net/index.php?s=content&d=terms_of_use), suspicion of payment with fraudulent funds or failure to pay subscription or other fees owed to ESEA. Please note that, if you are banned, your account will continue to be billed unless and until you cancel your subscription.
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[quote]Limitation on Liability
EXCEPT IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE SUCH PROVISIONS ARE RESTRICTED, IN NO EVENT WILL COMPANY OR ITS DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES OR AGENTS BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY THIRD PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, EXEMPLARY, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, INCLUDING FOR ANY LOST PROFITS OR LOST DATA ARISING FROM YOUR PURCHASE OR USE OF ANY PRODUCTS OR SERVICES, EVEN IF THE COMPANY IS AWARE OR HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY CONTAINED HEREIN, THE COMPANY'S LIABILITY TO YOU FOR ANY CAUSE WHATSOEVER, AND REGARDLESS OF THE FORM OF THE ACTION, WILL AT ALL TIMES BE LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT PAID BY YOU TO COMPANY FOR THE PRODUCT OR SERVICE, BUT IN NO CASE WILL THE COMPANY'S LIABILITY TO YOU EXCEED $1,000. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IF NO AMOUNT IS PAID TO COMPANY FOR THE PRODUCT OR SERVICE, YOU SHALL BE LIMITED TO INJUNCTIVE RELIEF ONLY, UNLESS OTHERWISE PERMITTED BY LAW, AND SHALL NOT BE ENTITLED TO DAMAGES OF ANY KIND FROM COMPANY, REGARDLESS OF THE CAUSE OF ACTION.
CERTAIN STATE LAWS DO NOT ALLOW LIMITATIONS ON IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF CERTAIN DAMAGES. IF THESE LAWS APPLY TO YOU, SOME OR ALL OF THE ABOVE DISCLAIMERS, EXCLUSIONS OR LIMITATIONS MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU, AND YOU MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS.[/quote]
These are from the ESEA premium terms and conditions along with the terms of sale. It says nothing about a hacked account with premium. Also, after reading the limitations on liability, the chances of getting money back are slim without one on one time with an admin who understands the situation.
ESEA reserves the right to suspend and or remove a Premium account without notice and without refund for any reason, including but not limited to the prohibited conduct set forth in section 4 above, monthly "Low Karma," attempting to evade a previously placed ban, violation of any of the provisions of the Terms of Use (http://esea.net/index.php?s=content&d=terms_of_use), suspicion of payment with fraudulent funds or failure to pay subscription or other fees owed to ESEA. Please note that, if you are banned, your account will continue to be billed unless and until you cancel your subscription.
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[quote]Limitation on Liability
EXCEPT IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE SUCH PROVISIONS ARE RESTRICTED, IN NO EVENT WILL COMPANY OR ITS DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES OR AGENTS BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY THIRD PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, EXEMPLARY, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, INCLUDING FOR ANY LOST PROFITS OR LOST DATA ARISING FROM YOUR PURCHASE OR USE OF ANY PRODUCTS OR SERVICES, EVEN IF THE COMPANY IS AWARE OR HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY CONTAINED HEREIN, THE COMPANY'S LIABILITY TO YOU FOR ANY CAUSE WHATSOEVER, AND REGARDLESS OF THE FORM OF THE ACTION, WILL AT ALL TIMES BE LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT PAID BY YOU TO COMPANY FOR THE PRODUCT OR SERVICE, BUT IN NO CASE WILL THE COMPANY'S LIABILITY TO YOU EXCEED $1,000. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IF NO AMOUNT IS PAID TO COMPANY FOR THE PRODUCT OR SERVICE, YOU SHALL BE LIMITED TO INJUNCTIVE RELIEF ONLY, UNLESS OTHERWISE PERMITTED BY LAW, AND SHALL NOT BE ENTITLED TO DAMAGES OF ANY KIND FROM COMPANY, REGARDLESS OF THE CAUSE OF ACTION.
CERTAIN STATE LAWS DO NOT ALLOW LIMITATIONS ON IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF CERTAIN DAMAGES. IF THESE LAWS APPLY TO YOU, SOME OR ALL OF THE ABOVE DISCLAIMERS, EXCLUSIONS OR LIMITATIONS MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU, AND YOU MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS.[/quote]
These are from the ESEA premium terms and conditions along with the terms of sale. It says nothing about a hacked account with premium. Also, after reading the limitations on liability, the chances of getting money back are slim without one on one time with an admin who understands the situation.
From what I see on the ban list, your ban is set until the 29th of this month. If it doesn't get overturned before it expires, you should see about trying it again once it expires.
there's not much else I can suggest at this point :(
From what I see on the ban list, your ban is set until the 29th of this month. If it doesn't get overturned before it expires, you should see about trying it again once it expires.
there's not much else I can suggest at this point :(
there's not much else I can suggest at this point :(
I don't think anything is going to get changed unless you some how contact torbull personally and explain your issue, even so chances are slim that anything is gonna be changed since esea will never do these type of things on a case by case basis. Maybe if kalkin or killing will bring it up to torbull personally, that might have slighly more impact, but who knows
I don't think anything is going to get changed unless you some how contact torbull personally and explain your issue, even so chances are slim that anything is gonna be changed since esea will [b]never[/b] do these type of things on a case by case basis. Maybe if kalkin or killing will bring it up to torbull personally, that might have slighly more impact, but who knows
so basically you and nemrawd are perma banned for absolutely no reason?
so basically you and nemrawd are perma banned for absolutely no reason?
There needs to be another admin whos name starts with K to add to the Kalkin Killing crew xd
BUT UNBAN THIS GUY
There needs to be another admin whos name starts with K to add to the Kalkin Killing crew xd
BUT UNBAN THIS GUY
BUT UNBAN THIS GUY
because swatt's issue originated with accidentally downloading a rat, I don't see what is supposed to get ESEA to unban him. They have that "you are responsible for your own security" thing in place, and it seems like any ESEA rep is just gonna point at that whenever someone pleads swatt's case.
because swatt's issue originated with accidentally downloading a rat, I don't see what is supposed to get ESEA to unban him. They have that "you are responsible for your own security" thing in place, and it seems like any ESEA rep is just gonna point at that whenever someone pleads swatt's case.
>"Shifty" who may also be banned from ESEA.
Then the player himself who banned me contacted me on steam to mock me.
you added me and I said I was sorry for knowing the person who did this then you got all autistic and starting crying about your real life issues. sorry this happened but I didn't have anything to do with it other then knowing the guy who logged into your account. stop mentioning my name please, thanks!
ps. #freeswatt
>"Shifty" who may also be banned from ESEA.
Then the player himself who banned me contacted me on steam to mock me.
you added me and I said I was sorry for knowing the person who did this then you got all autistic and starting crying about your real life issues. sorry this happened but I didn't have anything to do with it other then knowing the guy who logged into your account. stop mentioning my name please, thanks!
ps. #freeswatt
Then the player himself who banned me contacted me on steam to mock me.
you added me and I said I was sorry for knowing the person who did this then you got all autistic and starting crying about your real life issues. sorry this happened but I didn't have anything to do with it other then knowing the guy who logged into your account. stop mentioning my name please, thanks!
ps. #freeswatt
You added me specifically to help me get unbanned, I never added you. And, I dont blame me for me getting banned, you were just there at the time and understand this a lot better than i do, sure, i vented at you and called you a faggot, but thats because you hang around them so much it starts to reflect. Anyways, point is, im sorry.
p.s the letter makes no mention of you helping him, and you never did.
You added me specifically to help me get unbanned, I never added you. And, I dont blame me for me getting banned, you were just there at the time and understand this a lot better than i do, sure, i vented at you and called you a faggot, but thats because you hang around them so much it starts to reflect. Anyways, point is, im sorry.
p.s the letter makes no mention of you helping him, and you never did.
p.s the letter makes no mention of you helping him, and you never did.
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