LATEST: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
http://www.bbc.com/news/36510272
https://www.facebook.com/pulseorlando/posts/10154938990430031
https://twitter.com/Stewartmoore/status/741889268390461440
50 people killed, 53 injured at an Orlando gay nightclub. Shooter is said to have been radicalized.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/m5jeQA3.jpg[/img]
That facebook post fills me with dread.
I hope everybody is safe.
That facebook post fills me with dread.
I hope everybody is safe.
Apparently there was actually no shooting at the hospital, but it was locked down as a safety measure.
Police briefing in a couple minutes.
Apparently there was actually no shooting at the hospital, but it was locked down as a safety measure.
Police briefing in a couple minutes.
Who the fuck decides to walk into a nightclub and shoot people down. Just disgusting.
Who the fuck decides to walk into a nightclub and shoot people down. Just disgusting.
Pulse is a gay bar apparently. I wonder if that had anything to do with the motive behind this.
Pulse is a gay bar apparently. I wonder if that had anything to do with the motive behind this.
Religion of peace strikes again.
Religion of peace strikes again.
oh boy here come the agenda pushers
oh boy here come the agenda pushers
crwReligion of peace strikes again.
cmon man why
[quote=crw]Religion of peace strikes again.[/quote]
cmon man why
So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
crwSo you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
[quote=crw]So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.[/quote]
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
89zombiezcrwSo you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.
[quote=89zombiez][quote=crw]So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.[/quote]
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.[/quote]
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.
crw89zombiezcrwSo you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.
[quote=crw][quote=89zombiez][quote=crw]So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.[/quote]
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.[/quote]
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.[/quote]
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.
89zombiezcrw89zombiezcrwSo you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.
Whatever, I hope you aren't going to keep denying it when it it will be known that ISIS was behind it or something.
[quote=89zombiez][quote=crw][quote=89zombiez][quote=crw]So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.[/quote]
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.[/quote]
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.[/quote]
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.[/quote]
Whatever, I hope you aren't going to keep denying it when it it will be known that ISIS was behind it or something.
(regretting mentioning the gay club thing)
(regretting mentioning the gay club thing)
The majority of individuals who perpetrate mass shootings in the United States aren't Islamic extremists. This doesn't fit the profile of an attack motivated by radical Islam at all.
You have absolutely no evidence that that was the motivation of an attack, so all you're doing currently is using a tragedy to push a political agenda.
The majority of individuals who perpetrate mass shootings in the United States aren't Islamic extremists. This doesn't fit the profile of an attack motivated by radical Islam at all.
You have absolutely no evidence that that was the motivation of an attack, so all you're doing currently is using a tragedy to push a political agenda.
crw89zombiezcrw89zombiezcrwSo you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.
Whatever, I hope you aren't going to keep denying it when it it will be known that ISIS was behind it or something.
If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I'm just saying that there is no need to jump on the "It was (blank) religion again!!" bandwagon when we know nothing.
[quote=crw][quote=89zombiez][quote=crw][quote=89zombiez][quote=crw]So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.[/quote]
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.[/quote]
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.[/quote]
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.[/quote]
Whatever, I hope you aren't going to keep denying it when it it will be known that ISIS was behind it or something.[/quote]
If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I'm just saying that there is no need to jump on the "It was (blank) religion again!!" bandwagon when we know nothing.
crw89zombiezcrw89zombiezcrwSo you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
L
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.
Whatever, I hope you aren't going to keep denying it when it it will be known that ISIS was behind it or something.
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[quote=crw][quote=89zombiez][quote=crw][quote=89zombiez][quote=crw]So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.[/quote]
L
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.[/quote]
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.[/quote]
Most doesn't mean all. Theres plenty of unstable people in the US alone who could have done such a thing. Religion doesnt always have to be a factor in stuff like this.[/quote]
Whatever, I hope you aren't going to keep denying it when it it will be known that ISIS was behind it or something.[/quote]
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crw89zombiezcrwSo you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.
Regardless of the motives behind this specific horrific event, if you're talking about US domestic terrorism, then no (unless you are really creative with picking your data). And there's no "whatever", facts are just facts.
[quote=crw][quote=89zombiez][quote=crw]So you are saying this isn't islam?
Well we'll see, I don't know any other group that wears bombvests and shoots gays.[/quote]
Literally any other mentally unstable person could have done it, not all terrorism is done by islamic people. Cmon dude get a grip.[/quote]
Most of such terrorism has to do with islam. It's the most likely possibility.[/quote]
Regardless of the motives behind this specific horrific event, if you're talking about US domestic terrorism, then no (unless you are really creative with picking your data). And there's no "whatever", facts are just facts.
crwReligion of peace strikes again.
this is more the fault of gun laws than religion
[quote=crw]Religion of peace strikes again.[/quote]
this is more the fault of gun laws than religion
I'm just going to ignore the "religion" and "gun politics" stuff and say that all the victims' families have my condolences and shit.
I'm just going to ignore the "religion" and "gun politics" stuff and say that all the victims' families have my condolences and shit.
and yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...
and yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...
riotbzcrwReligion of peace strikes again.
this is more the fault of gun laws than religion
Twiggyand yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?
[quote=riotbz][quote=crw]Religion of peace strikes again.[/quote]
this is more the fault of gun laws than religion[/quote]
[quote=Twiggy]and yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...[/quote]
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?
Title of the bbc article- "Florida Pulse gay club attacked in Orlando - at least 20 dead"
Something tells me this is a hate crime. The shooter is probably a religious redneck sort of guy who can't accept the fact that people are different
Title of the bbc article- "Florida Pulse gay club attacked in Orlando - at least 20 dead"
Something tells me this is a hate crime. The shooter is probably a religious redneck sort of guy who can't accept the fact that people are different
crw
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?
Well you see the thing about all the non-occurring mass shootings in Western Europe is that it's difficult to point to examples...
[quote=crw]
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?[/quote]
Well you see the thing about all the non-occurring mass shootings in Western Europe is that it's difficult to point to examples...
Twiggyand yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...
yeah i'm really sure gun laws are to blame for this and not some sort of mental illness or severe lack of empathy the guy may have had, you nailed that right on the head my man good debate to try to start along with this
[quote=Twiggy]and yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...[/quote]
yeah i'm really sure gun laws are to blame for this and not some sort of mental illness or severe lack of empathy the guy may have had, you nailed that right on the head my man good debate to try to start along with this
Simcrw
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?
Well you see the thing about all the non-occurring mass shootings in Western Europe is that it's difficult to point to examples...
Wait, so 13 November Paris attacks didn't happen? Charlie Hebdo stuff didn't happen? Breivik didn't happen?
[quote=Sim][quote=crw]
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?[/quote]
Well you see the thing about all the non-occurring mass shootings in Western Europe is that it's difficult to point to examples...[/quote]
Wait, so 13 November Paris attacks didn't happen? Charlie Hebdo stuff didn't happen? Breivik didn't happen?
crwriotbzcrwReligion of peace strikes again.
this is more the fault of gun laws than religion
Twiggyand yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?
"Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control show that on an average day, 91 Americans are killed with guns."
"There are nearly 12,000 gun murders a year in the U.S. – and despite falling crime rates, that number has barely changed since the late 1990s."
"America’s gun murder rate is more than 25 times the average of other developed countries."
Proper sources supplied @ https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/
[quote=crw][quote=riotbz][quote=crw]Religion of peace strikes again.[/quote]
this is more the fault of gun laws than religion[/quote]
[quote=Twiggy]and yet america will find a way not to blame their gun laws...[/quote]
Belgium and France have strict gun laws, did that stop anyone?[/quote]
"Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control show that on an average day, 91 Americans are killed with guns."
"There are nearly 12,000 gun murders a year in the U.S. – and despite falling crime rates, that number has barely changed since the late 1990s."
"America’s gun murder rate is more than 25 times the average of other developed countries."
Proper sources supplied @ https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/