guys look, muselk made a discouraging, pessimistic rant on a video game he doesn't even play anymore

do you guys actually take these vids seriously
it's literally a pubber talking about comp tf2

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Muselk was on disney xd once did you know that lol

muselk was right :O:O:O

these comments are aids af

overwatch sellout talks about game that literally made his channel what it is now and proceeds to shittalk it

whats new its fuckin muselk

to be fair a lot of what he says makes sense past casual being this horrible disaster and tf2 being less fun now

people need to get over themselves i hardly notice (i would if MM wasnt shit) a difference except trying to rank up in casual is fun.

http://puu.sh/q9Ry5/e5fac27e9e.png

the undertale icon completed that comment tbh

http://i.imgur.com/qYfHrfS.png
this video is the autism-mongerer

my personal favourite criticism comment from the king raja video on this topic
http://i.imgur.com/oHSq7mM.png
cant beleive valve would make me feel dumb by renaming the "irrelevant gamemodes" section to a less sophisticated word :(

meanwhile someone worse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBk-tNKh52Y

https://i.gyazo.com/a508ddd1a712b8c8ed5f4aaf983077af.png

not even close to habib and his legendary 500 WPMS pugs

Ok then? TBH I don't really understand why any of us (being the actual comp tf2 players) care about these updates anymore. We have literally been doing things our own way for more then 7 years now with no help from valve and these updates don't change much for us. Short of valve putting up a $100,000 tourney for TF2, or them totally killing the game by destroying the code, we will still play it. I can understand wanting valve to do things and wanting the updates to be worth while but at this point in time I am in the camp of fuck it let valve do what they want ill just play my game. There was a point in time that I thought something like this would change the game for us in a really good way. But after this update and all the backlash it has gotten I have realized that no the game will not change, the pub players are much to polarized for anything useful to come from them. As for valve i do think they are trying but IMO they don't know what they want the game to be, it also does not help that many of the devs seem to have very little exp in TF2. So ya let people get mad, the update doesn't change shit for any of us.

http://i.imgur.com/5LgHxCN.jpg

How many times can I reuse this.

I don't understand why people trash talk the Casual mode. It's the best thing in this update, in my opinion, there are still community servers, which serve the same purpose "vanilla" Valve server did before this update, so why can't people just play on these, instead of whining about how horrible the Casual matchmaking is.
I do though agree with some of his points about this update, like the nonsensical graphical and visual restrictions and how unpolished the Competitive matchmaking is, like there were NO visible changes to it since the beta... which is??? Why is this the final product people actually pay for???

The reason no one is encouraging it is because it's lazily done and it ruined the game for a lot of people.

we should be critical, not cynical

most of the complaints i've seen are perfectly valid, but all the sub-70 mongols on reddit aren't really communicating well. but the sad part is the only way it seems valve will listen if sub-70 mongols on reddit scream their heads off.

I think most of what he says is true tbh

We had a year long beta and still end up with this, there's no excuse.

I personally could not care less about replacing Valve pubs with Casual, but I understand why so many of our playerbase do.

im just glad im not the shittiest person named elliott in this community

I'm honestly still really amazed at how many people still have the "TF2 is a dead game" prerogative even though it's literally always been as popular as it ever has been.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

The game hasn't lost anybody because of this sentiment (even gained people arguably), but it creates a more cynical community.

http://i.imgur.com/qF4IQeb.png

i just feel some frustration when valve doesnt make big enough changes, fixes things fast enough and doesnt communicate with the players. i dont have a lot of time to play tf2 anymore and i probably wont play a lot in the future but i really want to see this game grow and improve

lol it's even more amazing that people like you still give steam stats as a valid argument against the phrase "dead game," as if that phrase is directed at the entire 13 year old trader, hat hoarding playerbase and not the diminishing paucity of competitive interest in the game from top players and organizations alike

steam stats are valid, people just don't read them right. After a big update 2 weeks ago, maintained player counts from the previous month is horrible. We should have near 100k players right now

it's more the people who are still willing to play this game and can (could i suppose?) be introduced to competitive through matchmaking. when you still have people willing to play your game for any reason and have the ability to bring them to the shrinking competitive playerbase, the game isnt "dead."

plus most of the people who say "TF2 is daed!11!!1" are those same 13 year old hat traders you mentioned, and they don't even know about the section of tf2's playerbase that actually is dying (which is what i'd call tf2 right now, all in all.)