a lot has changed between 2006 and 2016
loot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_middle_class_in_the_United_States
huh elliot is wrong as usual, what a surprise
in that wiki page there is this quote:
your wiki link In 2005, 42% of US households (76% among the top quintile) had two or more income earners; as a result, 18% of households but only 5% of individuals had six figure incomes.[14] To illustrate, two nurses each making $55,000 per year can out-earn, in a household sense, a single attorney who makes a median of $95,000 annually
you'll note he said HOUSEHOLD in his post, and as the original post was about parent's earnings, individual income seems irrelevant (the whole upper class people have upper class kids even if they flip burgers)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_middle_class_in_the_United_States
huh elliot is wrong as usual, what a surprise[/quote]
in that wiki page there is this quote:
[quote=your wiki link] In 2005, 42% of US households (76% among the top quintile) had two or more income earners; as a result, 18% of households but only 5% of individuals had six figure incomes.[14] To illustrate, two nurses each making $55,000 per year can out-earn, in a household sense, a single attorney who makes a median of $95,000 annually[/quote]
you'll note he said HOUSEHOLD in his post, and as the original post was about parent's earnings, individual income seems irrelevant (the whole upper class people have upper class kids even if they flip burgers)
viscamusCitricI want this election to be over so that all my canadian friends here at school (I'm from the US and go to university in canada) stop making fun of me for donald trump
just make fun of how awful trudeau is?
trudeau has pretty high approval ratings here in canada, im surprised you think hes awful.
just make fun of how awful trudeau is?[/quote]
trudeau has pretty high approval ratings here in canada, im surprised you think hes awful.
-protoviscamustrudeau has pretty high approval ratings here in canada, im surprised you think hes awful.CitricI want this election to be over so that all my canadian friends here at school (I'm from the US and go to university in canada) stop making fun of me for donald trump
just make fun of how awful trudeau is?
hes under 50 percent last i checked, i wouldnt say thats high and in alberta its like 30
just make fun of how awful trudeau is?[/quote]
trudeau has pretty high approval ratings here in canada, im surprised you think hes awful.[/quote]
hes under 50 percent last i checked, i wouldnt say thats high and in alberta its like 30
An amazing video from Trump that is from the heart and is so truthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump!
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump!
dollarlayerAn amazing video from Trump that is from the heart and is so truthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump!
the emails that are in question were not sent by hillary, were not stored on her server, and are not related to the e-mails in question from the previous investigation
keep following the breitbart twitter though, i'm sure they'll tell the truth eventually!
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump![/quote]
the emails that are in question were not sent by hillary, were not stored on her server, and are not related to the e-mails in question from the previous investigation
keep following the breitbart twitter though, i'm sure they'll tell the truth eventually!
owldollarlayerAn amazing video from Trump that is from the heart and is so truthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump!
the emails that are in question were not sent by hillary, were not stored on her server, and are not related to the e-mails in question from the previous investigation
keep following the breitbart twitter though, i'm sure they'll tell the truth eventually!
My source is not breitbart. My source is a letter directly from James Comey the FBI director.
http://img.ccrd.clearchannel.com/media/mlib/15172/2016/10/default/comey_letter_0_1477662300.jpg
Seems pretty clear to me that through another case they found more potentially incriminating emails, so decided to re-open the investigation.
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump![/quote]
the emails that are in question were not sent by hillary, were not stored on her server, and are not related to the e-mails in question from the previous investigation
keep following the breitbart twitter though, i'm sure they'll tell the truth eventually![/quote]
My source is not breitbart. My source is a letter directly from James Comey the FBI director.
http://img.ccrd.clearchannel.com/media/mlib/15172/2016/10/default/comey_letter_0_1477662300.jpg
Seems pretty clear to me that through another case they found more potentially incriminating emails, so decided to re-open the investigation.
Do Trump supporters not realize he will bankrupt the country and sour foreign relations :(
what i'm getting from that letter is that
1. Comey doesn't know if the e-mails are important
2. it's going to take a while to figure out if they are important
3. nobody really knows anything yet
the investigation has not been re-opened in the sense that they are trying to decide if Clinton broke the law. They are simply trying to see if the discovered e-mails are related to the investigation
both the comey letter and the chaffetz tweet are irresponsible and unprecedented
1. Comey doesn't know if the e-mails are important
2. it's going to take a while to figure out if they are important
3. nobody really knows anything yet
the investigation has not been re-opened in the sense that they are trying to decide if Clinton broke the law. They are simply trying to see if the discovered e-mails are related to the investigation
both the comey letter and the chaffetz tweet are irresponsible and unprecedented
CleepopleDo Trump supporters not realize he will bankrupt the country and sour foreign relations :(
Bankrupt the country? It's already 19 Trillion in debt thanks to the policies of Obama. He basically doubled the debt although his campaign promise was to cut it in half. Hillary wants more taxes on the rich (those that provide jobs) and more regulation. It's quite simple for these companies or people to leave the country and take their assets with them, which is what is happening. Trump at least wants an exit tax and wants high import taxes on companies that move overseas and then import products back into the country.
owlwhat i'm getting from that letter is that
1. Comey doesn't know if the e-mails are important
2. it's going to take a while to figure out if they are important
3. nobody really knows anything yet
the investigation has not been re-opened in the sense that they are trying to decide if Clinton broke the law. They are simply trying to see if the discovered e-mails are related to the investigation
both the comey letter and the chaffetz tweet are irresponsible and unprecedented
1. He was briefed by other members of the FBI that already did a basic review of the emails and had enough information to advise him to re-open the investigation.
2. True, especially for a government agency and with all of the under the table dealings such as donating $675,000 from a Clinton supporter to the Deputy of the FBI directors wife. That might play into things, just sayin'
3. We know its being re-opened. We know the FBI knows more than us about it. We also know that the NSA has her 33K emails and congress can request them.
Clinton already broke the law and it is well documented. There are plenty of video's showing her lying under oath to congress which is a felony. They just decided not to charge her with it and she also said that her brain injury caused her to forget things. But her doctor says she is fine, but she is seen having multiple seizures this campaign and seen wearing prism glasses (treatment for brain injury) and also wearing anti-seizure Zeiss Z1 blue sunglasses. So something is definitely up with her health. If that contributed to her lying under oath to congress, or if that was just a lie is hard to tell at this point.
Oh and deleting emails while under subpoena from the United States Congress is most certainly against the law.
Bankrupt the country? It's already 19 Trillion in debt thanks to the policies of Obama. He basically doubled the debt although his campaign promise was to cut it in half. Hillary wants more taxes on the rich (those that provide jobs) and more regulation. It's quite simple for these companies or people to leave the country and take their assets with them, which is what is happening. Trump at least wants an exit tax and wants high import taxes on companies that move overseas and then import products back into the country.
[quote=owl]what i'm getting from that letter is that
1. Comey doesn't know if the e-mails are important
2. it's going to take a while to figure out if they are important
3. nobody really knows anything yet
the investigation has not been re-opened in the sense that they are trying to decide if Clinton broke the law. They are simply trying to see if the discovered e-mails are related to the investigation
both the comey letter and the chaffetz tweet are irresponsible and unprecedented[/quote]
1. He was briefed by other members of the FBI that already did a basic review of the emails and had enough information to advise him to re-open the investigation.
2. True, especially for a government agency and with all of the under the table dealings such as donating $675,000 from a Clinton supporter to the Deputy of the FBI directors wife. That might play into things, just sayin'
3. We know its being re-opened. We know the FBI knows more than us about it. We also know that the NSA has her 33K emails and congress can request them.
Clinton already broke the law and it is well documented. There are plenty of video's showing her lying under oath to congress which is a felony. They just decided not to charge her with it and she also said that her brain injury caused her to forget things. But her doctor says she is fine, but she is seen having multiple seizures this campaign and seen wearing prism glasses (treatment for brain injury) and also wearing anti-seizure Zeiss Z1 blue sunglasses. So something is definitely up with her health. If that contributed to her lying under oath to congress, or if that was just a lie is hard to tell at this point.
Oh and deleting emails while under subpoena from the United States Congress is most certainly against the law.
dollarlayerClinton already broke the law and it is well documented. There are plenty of video's showing her lying under oath to congress which is a felony. They just decided not to charge her with it and she also said that her brain injury caused her to forget things. But her doctor says she is fine, but she is seen having multiple seizures this campaign and seen wearing prism glasses (treatment for brain injury) and also wearing anti-seizure Zeiss Z1 blue sunglasses. So something is definitely up with her health. If that contributed to her lying under oath to congress, or if that was just a lie is hard to tell at this point.
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ctr paid me 18 cents for my posts in this thread btw
eeeI said household income u literal child
that's still only 15% of upper middle class
dunning-kruger patient 0 over here
Even if upper middle class was 100% over 100k household income most of tftv would still not be lower middle class which is what his original (completely retarded) attempt at a point was
I can't wait until you commit suicide when trump wins
that's still only 15% of upper middle class
dunning-kruger patient 0 over here
Even if upper middle class was 100% over 100k household income most of tftv would still not be lower middle class which is what his original (completely retarded) attempt at a point was
I can't wait until you commit suicide when trump wins
looteeeI said household income u literal child
that's still only 15% of upper middle class
dunning-kruger patient 0 over here
Even if upper middle class was 100% over 100k household income most of tftv would still not be lower middle class which is what his original (completely retarded) attempt at a point was
dude do u have down syndrome eyl
15% means 85th percentile of american homes
please never breed
I doubt it will be a problem for u since human beings tend to avoid people who have dents in their skull but the thought of u reproducing is terrifying
that's still only 15% of upper middle class
dunning-kruger patient 0 over here
Even if upper middle class was 100% over 100k household income most of tftv would still not be lower middle class which is what his original (completely retarded) attempt at a point was[/quote]
dude do u have down syndrome eyl
15% means 85th percentile of american homes
please never breed
I doubt it will be a problem for u since human beings tend to avoid people who have dents in their skull but the thought of u reproducing is terrifying
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html
in case you're interested in reading something from the scummy MSM $layer
pertinent (sourced) quote:
"The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them."
They're freaking out about e-mails found on a laptop used by both Weiner and Clinton advisor Huma Abedin, who are married. Maybe in your circles, the women-folk aren't allowed to touch the electronic adding machines, but it's not that weird for a married couple to occasionally share a laptop in the real world.
in case you're interested in reading something from the scummy MSM $layer
pertinent (sourced) quote:
"The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them."
They're freaking out about e-mails found on a laptop used by both Weiner and Clinton advisor Huma Abedin, who are married. Maybe in your circles, the women-folk aren't allowed to touch the electronic adding machines, but it's not that weird for a married couple to occasionally share a laptop in the real world.
dollarlayerAn amazing video from Trump that is from the heart and is so truthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump!
When the FBI drops the ball, the FBA is always there to pick it right back up
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump![/quote]
When the FBI drops the ball, the FBA is always there to pick it right back up
dollarlayerAn amazing video from Trump that is from the heart and is so truthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump!
My youtube recommendations are going to take a while to recover from this
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump![/quote]
My youtube recommendations are going to take a while to recover from this
remedydollarlayerAn amazing video from Trump that is from the heart and is so truthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYwWhen the FBI drops the ball, the FBA is always there to pick it right back up
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump!
FBA? Fulfilled by Amazon?
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Tim Kaine had a rally in Florida yesterday and 30 people showed up... looooooooooooool. Trump had one and over 20,000 showed up.
With the FBA investigation being opened once again going after Hillary there is no better time to support Trump![/quote]
When the FBI drops the ball, the FBA is always there to pick it right back up[/quote]
FBA? Fulfilled by Amazon?
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Tim Kaine had a rally in Florida yesterday and 30 people showed up... looooooooooooool. Trump had one and over 20,000 showed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvoL52kSPiw
rallies are v important, thats why sanders is such an impressive nominee!
do you guys think this is when the clintons found out how to summon the dead to vote?
do you guys think this is when the clintons found out how to summon the dead to vote?
dollarlayer
Do you not realize that Obama inherited an economy in recession from Bush? lmao trying to defend Trump's economic policies is laughable, anyone with an understanding of macroeconomics will that you that his plan will further fuck the US economy
1) He wants to cut taxes on the rich (and cut the number of tax brackets from 7 to 4) which means that even though everyone gets tax reductions, the rich in particular are taxed even less which means that Trump is essentially widening the already large gap between the rich (himself) and everyone else. He also wants to reduce corporate tax to 15% (lol) which further reduces revenue. Such steep tax reductions mean that in the first decade of his plan the US will lose 9.5 TRILLION dollars in revenue and another 15 million and additional $15.0 trillion over the subsequent 10 years. And that's before accounting for added interest costs or considering macroeconomic feedback effects.
2)He wants to build a fucking wall. First of all, over 40% of illegal immigrants come by plane and then overstay their visa, a wall won't help with that. Secondly, the wall would theoretically cost around 25 billion dollars to build, not counting maintenance or staffing costs. The Mexican government has already said they won't pay for the wall, so where is he going to fund such an expensive (and braindead) project from if he's cutting the revenue by trillions of dollars via his tax plan?
3) He wants to impose a 35% and 45% percent import tax on Mexico and China lol???? While that, in theory, could make American consumers buy American goods, it also means that Mexico and China would likely impose import taxes on incoming AMERICAN goods which not only would sour international relations but also destroy American trade considering that Mexico and China are 2 of America's largest trading partners (after Canada) and US exports to the two comes around 350 billion dollars.
4) He wants to increase military spending. How is he going to do this with such expansive revenue cuts? He hasn't explained how he will cut public spending, and such a reduction in revenue would require cuts in public spending never before seen in American history.
5) He says he wants to reduce the deficit. How is he gonna do that when he wants to increase government spending through the wall and military funding without any increase in US revenue? He's going to widen the deficit rofl.
But Hilary is being investigated by the FBI so lets ignore her objectively better policies :OO
I have no problem with Trump supporters lol just don't try to justify a terrible economic plan that objectively goes macroeconomic principles and would hurt everyone besides the rich.
Do you not realize that Obama inherited an economy in recession from Bush? lmao trying to defend Trump's economic policies is laughable, anyone with an understanding of macroeconomics will that you that his plan will further fuck the US economy
1) He wants to cut taxes on the rich (and cut the number of tax brackets from 7 to 4) which means that even though everyone gets tax reductions, the rich in particular are taxed even less which means that Trump is essentially widening the already large gap between the rich (himself) and everyone else. He also wants to reduce corporate tax to 15% (lol) which further reduces revenue. Such steep tax reductions mean that in the first decade of his plan the US will lose 9.5 TRILLION dollars in revenue and another 15 million and additional $15.0 trillion over the subsequent 10 years. And that's before accounting for added interest costs or considering macroeconomic feedback effects.
2)He wants to build a fucking wall. First of all, over 40% of illegal immigrants come by plane and then overstay their visa, a wall won't help with that. Secondly, the wall would theoretically cost around 25 billion dollars to build, not counting maintenance or staffing costs. The Mexican government has already said they won't pay for the wall, so where is he going to fund such an expensive (and braindead) project from if he's cutting the revenue by trillions of dollars via his tax plan?
3) He wants to impose a 35% and 45% percent import tax on Mexico and China lol???? While that, in theory, could make American consumers buy American goods, it also means that Mexico and China would likely impose import taxes on incoming AMERICAN goods which not only would sour international relations but also destroy American trade considering that Mexico and China are 2 of America's largest trading partners (after Canada) and US exports to the two comes around 350 billion dollars.
4) He wants to increase military spending. How is he going to do this with such expansive revenue cuts? He hasn't explained how he will cut public spending, and such a reduction in revenue would require cuts in public spending never before seen in American history.
5) He says he wants to reduce the deficit. How is he gonna do that when he wants to increase government spending through the wall and military funding without any increase in US revenue? He's going to widen the deficit rofl.
But Hilary is being investigated by the FBI so lets ignore her objectively better policies :OO
I have no problem with Trump supporters lol just don't try to justify a terrible economic plan that objectively goes macroeconomic principles and would hurt everyone besides the rich.
CleepopleI don't get it
You see,
Phase 1: reduce taxes and spend billions on military and other projects
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: deficit reduced
You see,
Phase 1: reduce taxes and spend billions on military and other projects
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: deficit reduced
That's one thing I never got about Trump.
Whenever he's asked how he's going to accomplish something he just says "I'm gonna do it, trust me"
He has giant blank gaps in the flowcharts for his plans and his supporters just don't seem to give a shit
Whenever he's asked how he's going to accomplish something he just says "I'm gonna do it, trust me"
He has giant blank gaps in the flowcharts for his plans and his supporters just don't seem to give a shit
tranchemusiceeeEvrewsThe amount of trump apologists on the forums is actually disturbingeveryone here is a lower middle class white guy who had to drop out of college because they had "depression" (played too much tf2)
this is the PRIME trump demographic
lower middle class don't play video games all day
most people here are upper middle class
ive known several people who had parents on welfare, foodstamps, etc that played games all day. you arent as enlightened as you think
everyone here is a lower middle class white guy who had to drop out of college because they had "depression" (played too much tf2)
this is the PRIME trump demographic[/quote]
lower middle class don't play video games all day
most people here are upper middle class[/quote]
ive known several people who had parents on welfare, foodstamps, etc that played games all day. you arent as enlightened as you think
fahrenheitThat's one thing I never got about Trump.
Whenever he's asked how he's going to accomplish something he just says "I'm gonna do it, trust me"
He has giant blank gaps in the flowcharts for his plans and his supporters just don't seem to give a shit
Dunning-Kruger Effect
Whenever he's asked how he's going to accomplish something he just says "I'm gonna do it, trust me"
He has giant blank gaps in the flowcharts for his plans and his supporters just don't seem to give a shit[/quote]
Dunning-Kruger Effect
CleepopleHow is he gonna do that when he wants to increase government spending through the wall and military funding without any increase in US revenue?
1. Massively expand military spending
2. Destroy anything you have a deficit with
3. What deficit?
You must surely realise that almost nobody voting for him is doing so on the basis of a sober policy analysis right? I doubt many voting against him are either.
1. Massively expand military spending
2. Destroy anything you have a deficit with
3. What deficit?
You must surely realise that almost nobody voting for him is doing so on the basis of a sober policy analysis right? I doubt many voting against him are either.
GentlemanJonCleepopleHow is he gonna do that when he wants to increase government spending through the wall and military funding without any increase in US revenue?1. Massively expand military spending
2. Destroy anything you have a deficit with
3. What deficit?
You must surely realise that almost nobody voting for him is doing so on the basis of a sober policy analysis right? I doubt many voting against him are either.
Which is why he'll fuck up foreign affairs too (he's probably already done that by talking so negatively about Mexico and China)
Yeah I know that which bothers me a lot. Trump supporters don't realize that he his policies are terrible and that its detrimental to the public. I wish people actually looked at each candidate's policies this election before making up their mind
1. Massively expand military spending
2. Destroy anything you have a deficit with
3. What deficit?
You must surely realise that almost nobody voting for him is doing so on the basis of a sober policy analysis right? I doubt many voting against him are either.[/quote]
Which is why he'll fuck up foreign affairs too (he's probably already done that by talking so negatively about Mexico and China)
Yeah I know that which bothers me a lot. Trump supporters don't realize that he his policies are terrible and that its detrimental to the public. I wish people actually looked at each candidate's policies this election before making up their mind
i dont think u realize how much chinese people hate clintons after the 1999 incident when bill clinton approved a bombing on a chinese embassy lmao