have you guys asked for help to our lord and saviour sigsegv?

Remember when the only time valve proved they look at tftv was a meme? This bug is fucking infuriating and it needs better exposure.

can we bump this. i dont even think valve knows of this

I wonder if vJill even looks around anymore lol

yo what if this is actually a bug

http://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php?recipient=TF+Team

I just sent the tf2 dev team an email. If everybody who sees this post does the same, the bug will be fixed in the next major update, if not sooner. Remember, in the (not so recent anymore...) blog post about balance changes, players were encouraged to send the team an email with any feedback they might have. They definitely read these emails.

If you're reading this, send a quick email. It can just be the link to this thread and "sticky detonation delay" in the subject if you want. Don't leave it up to everybody else to send emails.

sent

sent

http://www.teamfortress.tv/user/send

sended

sentry

http://i.imgur.com/h1aY1fb.png

can i write my message on a paper airplane and throw it in the general direction of valve HQ

if valve fix this in the next 30 days i will donate £100 to charity.

Sent+sent a screenshot of wars post now they will know they are taking money from charity if they don't fix it.

"The characters you entered did not match those displayed in the image.
You must have cookies enabled in your browser to use this form."

sent

sent

getting valve to fix tf2 is harder than getting a stingy landlord to fix your ac, but i'll send it anyway

Hello, here's a temporary solution as a sourcemod plugin: https://github.com/ldesgoui/tf2-sticky-delay-fix
Hopefully VALVe acknowledges this.

only works with linux servers :(

Yeah, that'll be fixed tomorrow hopefully.

EDIT: Should work now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiNR-eEUoAY9tJl.jpg:large

God bless you.

so I've done a fair amount of testing with this bug.

1. Bug still exists

2. Bug occurs when switching weapons and during melee attacks.

1. Bug "doesn't" occur if you switch to the grenade launcher within the first 300ms of firing the sticky. this is because the switch speed is fast enough to complete before the sticky can be det
   
2. Bug is far more noticeable with demo "sword" melees since they have longer switch times and attack intervals
   
3. stickies that are already setup in a trap are unaffected by switching to a different slot BUT are affected by the melee attack delay. given this nature the slot switching and melee attack sticky delays are likely separate bugs

Item Switch sticky delay

If you switch weapons in a time period that would affect the earliest start point of the sticky detonation, and switch back to the stickybomb launcher the sticky detonates immediately so long it's 800+ms after the sticky is fired.

To break it down

Fire sticky -> 700ms later switch to grenade launcher (which takes 500ms to complete) -> 100ms later stop weapon switch with slot2 bind -> sticky detonates 0-15.2ms later without needing to fully switch to the stickybomb launcher

which is better than Fire sticky -> 700ms later switch to grenade launcher -> 500ms later sticky can be detonated after 1.2s

Again items with longer switch speeds makes this worse (unless you switch back to detonate)

Melee attack sticky delay

Name is exactly what it suggests, noteably worse with demo "sword" items due to longer attack intervals. Usually only effects sticky traps, but is technically capable of delaying new sticky detonation.
ex.
Fire Sticky -> during first 299ms switch to non-sword melee (the bottle/paintrain/etc) -> melee attack immediately -> sticky dets at the end of the melee attack

Items affected in one way or another by the above delays
Stickybomb launcher
Quickiebomb launcher
Scottish Resistance
Detonator (pyro secondary)

• this is actually particularly dumb switching from the detonator makes it so you can no longer detonate the flare even if you switch back to the detonator**

Sandman (melee attack blocks secondary)
Wrap-Assassin (melee attack blocks secondary)
Spy-cloak (melee attack blocks cloaking until the end of the stab)

Items that are surprisingly unaffected by the above delays
All demo shields are capable of charging during melee attacks

The reason Valve hasn't fixed either issue (for sticky bombs at least)

source

They think they fixed it last year. (granted they might have fixed stickies that have existed for over 700ms being able to detonate while switching weapons as that definitely no longer occurs)see edit below

-edit-

Stickybomb arm time is ~0.8s. Updated numbers accordingly.

So in December 2017 Valve fixed part of the issue.

https://youtu.be/AtPeAzYuXaE?t=25s
this now behaves in the same manor as the grenade launcher as in the switch can cause a delay if the end of the switch is after the sticky arm time BUT it will detonate. Unable to verify if switching to melee also delayed sticky trap detonation, can confirm that it's definitely not an issue now anyway.

-edit2-
**You can detonate the flare after switching back you just have to wait the full amount of time to deploy the detonator again to be able to do so... Missed in testing due to the flare dropping behind stuff and me assuming the explosion would be more obvious.

Made a video showing 95% of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evInNvENf7o

fun fact: the rescue ranger doesn't delay the ability to pull buildings while firing (not shown in video)

surprised this is the first i've heard of this. that kinda ruins the detonator.