I wanted to post that, rip my free upfrags, but yeah FUNKe did a good job explaining casuals about comp.

Very good video. Short and gets to the point.

Also, that part with Richard Lewis reminded me of this video where he shits on Blizzard and talks about e-sports as a whole. If you haven't watched it, you should, it's surprisingly informative.

I really respect Funke with the ability to not be afraid to say what needs to be said.

I laughed so hard at the melee evidence.

The amount of effort Funke puts in his videos is really admirable

Keep it up my dude

I'm sure Valve knows they should make TF2 into an esport, I just hope they execute it well.

I mean with comp,changes on the way, im pretty sure the best way to gain more popularity in the esport scene in funding a tournament, and we have no clue if they actually want to do that. (Doubt its going to happen tbh :c)

If they want to to make it a viable esport, they have to drop those competitive changes soon. I felt the update was weak because the comp/casual changes didn't drop, but I'll take back what I said about the update if the changes were fine tuned into something amazing. Valve has a vision for TF2, and I feel like it will be a positive one. If the prizepools were even remotely closer to Overwatch most of the pros would just drop that shit and come over to tf2.

Holy editing. This video is great.

I mean, hes really preaching to the choir, so there isn't much to say. I'm just amazed by the effects and effort that went into it. My only criticism is that it wasn't longer.

Even if the competitive changes come soon, which they probably won't, and even if valve did fund a tournament, which probably won't happen either, this still doesn't explain why the vast majority of players that play a competitive game wouldn't stick with their game

I don't mean the top level players, I'm talking about the main playerbase. You need a thriving 'lower' scene of people that give a shit about winning to watch the games otherwise what's the point? the people that care about getting better, winning, and are competitive players (not esport players) are playing other games, and competitive changes have little impact on getting them to play this game - nobody is gonna come back to this 10 year old game that they remember as a dustbowl pub to try that competitively

The point, and issue, is that it takes time for public perception to change & you can't really rush into it and end up having a major that nobody watches - and in the year+ it takes valve to even launch competitive tf2, overwatch, even pubg will have skyrocketed into bigger games

Don't ask me why, but I seriously doubt it.

yea idk how long ow will live without any semblance of a t2 scene. also lack of low prio and other things in ranked make that not a great experience as well lol.

if tf2 actually comes out with good matchmaking I will literally play the shit out of it.

https://youtu.be/kZdHDsxykQ8?t=4m23s
this part was gold

Really nice work from FUNKe. Very clear and gets to the point quickly while being clear.

Maybe it's that these players think competitive TF2 is a joke because they've never seen a high-level game of it? A high profile tournament might get people hooked once they see the skill of world-class players on display.

Media is important - I'm pretty sure I got hooked on comp TF2 after I came across the Fragged by TLR clips and was like "I want to do that." This (of course, hypothetical) tournament could help rebuild the 'lower' scene of TF2 in that regard by exposing people to hype plays.

Of course, working in-game competitive matchmaking will need to come first before this has any effect whatsoever, since exposure is useless if people are just going to see the shitfest that is MM in its current form and never come back.

My dream is for all the ex-TF2 pros currently in OW to return and bring money, passion and fans with them.

when i first discovered funke i thought it was gonna be star 2.0 but he's been making some really good content and he actually understands what he's talking about

nice work funke, keep it up

Heroes of Might and Magic 3 still has a competitive scene. That game is 18 years old. It's just not huge.

Most of the points regarding OW are on point at least as far as I go seeing that game.

The big struggle for comp tf2 over the last 2-3 years, is that the upper, but not quite highest skill bracket, has had a lot of attrition in player numbers. In part, it's because once East-Texas_boopidy your reasonably good [insert class here] quits, it's really hard to find a replacement of equivalent skill without taking a risk on a player you may not know very well, and people are pretty loath to do that because the old circle jerks don't exist like they used to where upper level teams had 2-3 lower level teams that hung out with them all the time that the higher level team could feed off of when needed.

That and it's really hard for new teams to get scrims if they don't have somebody who knows the present team leaders of their skill bracket.

r u saying star didnt make good content :(

i liked the death grips music over the cluttered overwatch screenshot

What strikes me as interesting is that funke is one of the few tf2 youtubers who actually understands how the competitive TF2 scene is actually laid out, rather than other youtubers who just do 1 or 2 videos on HL tf2centre and don't have a clue what they are doing. And of course he probably doesn't have a very expansive understanding of competitive, but so far I haven't seen him really get much wrong.

It's really helpful that he's making these videos to perhaps educate his presumably casual audience, and it's for that which i respect him.

I hope that he manages to start a trend among the youtubers to help shed some more light on the scene, unlike a few of the other youtubers and streamers who have totally denounced us. (like this absolute gem right here https://imgur.com/etGN1dE)

All this is quite obviously in front of us already too if you just take a look at the player numbers after ANY insomnia event, I can't be the only gamer who had my passion reignited multiple times by these big lans

i mean if you look at melee's explosive growth over the last few years, one can hope that tf2 can spark a similar run.

funke is a good content creator

I think Melee should stop being used as an example. The game is completely different (1v1, character vs. character), and the FGC is much larger, far more supportive, & built up by grass roots efforts over the span of the game's lifetime. Does help that probably the easiest to organize for. You can't say the same for TF2 6v6.

He knows whats up. He was in newbie mixes for quite some time to learn the game and how it works and he also was on one of the newbie mix teams for esea one of the seasons we did the drive for.
He actually knows as much about the scene as many of the posters on tftv do.

https://i.imgur.com/PRI6Txm.png

For anyone Wondering, the prize pool was $250,000, which a majority of that prize pool came from the 2013 winter esports case.

Ohhhh interesting, thanks for telling me, not really familiar with the NA scene all that much.

I assume he isn't as active nowadays? But regardless it's a huge sigh of relief to see that he understands what he's talking about, on the contrary to a lot of pubbers, i mean honestly the kind of stuff you here in pubs are shocking.

It's nice to know some of them follow the scene properly :P

a while ago, someone told me to put 'plat soldier' in my stream title instead of 'invite roamer' because it'd give me more views, i remember it working really well lol

so many ppl are just either clueless about esea or dont really know that that's where the best players are. I think many are aware of ugc though