Theres gotta be some reason why they dont wanna say and maybe its a situation where it is justified for example Alfa has done something to someone and this someone doesnt feel comfortable being in the same place but would like to remain anonymous FOR EXAMPLE.
you shouldnt know because its none of ur business but Alfa should at the very least
Theres gotta be some reason why they dont wanna say and maybe its a situation where it is justified for example Alfa has done something to someone and this someone doesnt feel comfortable being in the same place but would like to remain anonymous FOR EXAMPLE.
you shouldnt know because its none of ur business but Alfa should at the very least
funhaver1998Theres gotta be some reason why they dont wanna say and maybe its a situation where it is justified for example Alfa has done something to someone and this someone doesnt feel comfortable being in the same place but would like to remain anonymous FOR EXAMPLE.
you shouldnt know because its none of ur business but Alfa should at the very least
ok boomer
[quote=funhaver1998]Theres gotta be some reason why they dont wanna say and maybe its a situation where it is justified for example Alfa has done something to someone and this someone doesnt feel comfortable being in the same place but would like to remain anonymous FOR EXAMPLE.
you shouldnt know because its none of ur business but Alfa should at the very least[/quote]
ok boomer
https://youtu.be/u3JlXhXXA-Q?t=91
albaYeeHaw
Also why are you asking alba to make a team out of anyone you could have asked in NA or EU, bit random
Must be the pineapple suit
I think it might be because they know that I am attending and I guess they wanted more euros at the lan. Since the spot this mix/half team would take was an EU team. I myself suggested they should take the next in line qualifier team when I told them bus crew couldnt attend without replacing 3 players but I was asked to create a team for it
I don’t know if Alfa’s team is actually attending anymore, but I mentioned to tsc multiple times my full team from qualifiers was ready to go, no subs or anything. We finished in qualifiers just after Alfa’s team but he never gave me a solid answer. I do hope Alfa’s team can attend since they paid their dues in qualifiers, but I do think scrambling for a EU pug team to replace Full NA teams just to validate it as an international LAN is kind of a joke move
[quote=alba][quote=YeeHaw]
Also why are you asking alba to make a team out of anyone you could have asked in NA or EU, bit random[/quote]
Must be the pineapple suit
I think it might be because they know that I am attending and I guess they wanted more euros at the lan. Since the spot this mix/half team would take was an EU team. I myself suggested they should take the next in line qualifier team when I told them bus crew couldnt attend without replacing 3 players but I was asked to create a team for it[/quote]
I don’t know if Alfa’s team is actually attending anymore, but I mentioned to tsc multiple times my full team from qualifiers was ready to go, no subs or anything. We finished in qualifiers just after Alfa’s team but he never gave me a solid answer. I do hope Alfa’s team can attend since they paid their dues in qualifiers, but I do think scrambling for a EU pug team to replace Full NA teams just to validate it as an international LAN is kind of a joke move
bitch im piped up sippin sizzurp
bitch im piped up sippin sizzurp
Yo, what's the reason? I'm on the edge of my seat ova heaaaa.
Yo, what's the reason? I'm on the edge of my seat ova heaaaa.
TSC has been an emotional nazi for as long as I can remember, his name is an acronym The Supreme Commander lmao. You guys are acting like you're surprised a middle aged man with that alias is letting his emotions get the best of him and acting irrationally. It baffles me how this community continues to allow these types of people into positions of any power and I think that really shows with the state of the competitive scene. God what I would do to just have Tri_ run every League/Lan/Pug Site, people who are admins of this community should aspire to act like him.
TSC has been an emotional nazi for as long as I can remember, his name is an acronym The Supreme Commander lmao. You guys are acting like you're surprised a middle aged man with that alias is letting his emotions get the best of him and acting irrationally. It baffles me how this community continues to allow these types of people into positions of any power and I think that really shows with the state of the competitive scene. God what I would do to just have Tri_ run every League/Lan/Pug Site, people who are admins of this community should aspire to act like him.
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One thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers. I can't think of any in ETF2L or even Europe as a whole, and I believe it may be a bigger issue in America, but a few people have come out in this thread only affirming this suspicion of mine.
These people don't play the game, haven't played it in years, and hold nothing but hatred for the average member of their community. I acknowledge that as an admin/leader/organiser you are going to deal with a lot of shit, but only a weak person in a position like that will react to this by going "well, I deal with scumbags all day, anyone that isn't me or with me is the scum of the community!". And ultimately they end up doing the community a disservice. Why put yourself in a position of power or authority if you aren't acting to serve the community?
Idk perhaps I'm reading far too much into this but this has always been my thought process and to see others come out and say it means I can't be the only one to at least perceive the behaviours of some of these people in the that way. Who knows, perhaps they are good faith actors and my own biases make me view them as the complete opposite.
One thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers. I can't think of any in ETF2L or even Europe as a whole, and I believe it may be a bigger issue in America, but a few people have come out in this thread only affirming this suspicion of mine.
These people don't play the game, haven't played it in years, and hold nothing but hatred for the average member of their community. I acknowledge that as an admin/leader/organiser you are going to deal with a lot of shit, but only a weak person in a position like that will react to this by going "well, I deal with scumbags all day, anyone that isn't me or with me is the scum of the community!". And ultimately they end up doing the community a disservice. Why put yourself in a position of power or authority if you aren't acting to serve the community?
Idk perhaps I'm reading far too much into this but this has always been my thought process and to see others come out and say it means I can't be the only one to at least perceive the behaviours of some of these people in the that way. Who knows, perhaps they are good faith actors and my own biases make me view them as the complete opposite.
MakOne thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers.
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[quote=Mak]One thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like [b]massive baby power trippers[/b].[/quote]
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MRfunnyalienMakOne thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers.
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wait...but RGL admins tell me everything is fine....
[quote=MRfunnyalien][quote=Mak]One thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like [b]massive baby power trippers[/b].[/quote]
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wait...but RGL admins tell me everything is fine....
I thought we cancelled nursey? can we stop interacting with pedophiles? Thank You Gamers.
I thought we cancelled nursey? can we stop interacting with pedophiles? Thank You Gamers.
imagine lecturing ppl about twitch alts whilst being a fuckin nonce lmao
imagine lecturing ppl about twitch alts whilst being a fuckin nonce lmao
MakOne thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers.
These people don't play the game, haven't played it in years, and hold nothing but hatred for the average member of their community. I acknowledge that as an admin/leader/organiser you are going to deal with a lot of shit...Why put yourself in a position of power or authority if you aren't acting to serve the community?
That's something I have never understood. So many people who take lead of organizing events resent this community yet still continue to do so. Beyond that, they believe they're immune from doing anything wrong. I'm sure others would step up if they left. This game and community aren't going anywhere, and that's no thanks to them. If they really resent this community so much either let it fester and die or show some people who actually care the ropes and pass the baton. That being said there are still a lot of people who love this community that work hard and do good for all of us and to those people I say, thank you. And even to those who are bitter today, I'm sure the community thanks you for all you have done past present and future. Just lighten up a little bit.
edit: I would agree with 5unny to say I may be exaggerating when I say "many people" but I still definitely believe there are some stuck in the past that resent present day TF2.
[quote=Mak]One thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers.
These people don't play the game, haven't played it in years, and hold nothing but hatred for the average member of their community. I acknowledge that as an admin/leader/organiser you are going to deal with a lot of shit...Why put yourself in a position of power or authority if you aren't acting to serve the community?
[/quote]
That's something I have never understood. So many people who take lead of organizing events resent this community yet still continue to do so. Beyond that, they believe they're immune from doing anything wrong. I'm sure others would step up if they left. This game and community aren't going anywhere, and that's no thanks to them. If they really resent this community so much either let it fester and die or show some people who actually care the ropes and pass the baton. That being said there are still a lot of people who love this community that work hard and do good for all of us and to those people I say, thank you. And even to those who are bitter today, I'm sure the community thanks you for all you have done past present and future. Just lighten up a little bit.
edit: I would agree with 5unny to say I may be exaggerating when I say "many people" but I still definitely believe there are some stuck in the past that resent present day TF2.
DonDorito
I think you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of event organizers who genuinely despise the community, but still continue to organize events for us . They're not getting paid very well, if at all, and I'd imagine it's stressful. The only reason to do it if not for passion is to hang out with friends at lan. There might be someone who genuinely hates the community, but I think you're being disingenuous by saying many organizers hate the community.
[quote=DonDorito][/quote]
I think you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of event organizers who genuinely despise the community, but still continue to organize events for us . They're not getting paid very well, if at all, and I'd imagine it's stressful. The only reason to do it if not for passion is to hang out with friends at lan. There might be someone who genuinely hates the community, but I think you're being disingenuous by saying many organizers hate the community.
they reinstated alfa at the top of page 3. someone less familar with tftv might foolishly assume the thread would die out after that
they reinstated alfa at the top of page 3. someone less familar with tftv might foolishly assume the thread would die out after that
DonDoritoThat's something I have never understood. So many people who take lead of organizing events resent this community yet still continue to do so. Beyond that, they believe they're immune from doing anything wrong. I'm sure others would step up if they left. This game and community aren't going anywhere, and that's no thanks to them. If they really resent this community so much either let it fester and die or show some people who actually care the ropes and pass the baton. That being said there are still a lot of people who love this community that work hard and do good for all of us and to those people I say, thank you. And even to those who are bitter today, I'm sure the community thanks you for all you have done past present and future. Just lighten up a little bit.
You've put my point forward in a more positive way. It's easy for me to say this from the outside looking in and I acknowledge that, but ye it's painfully obvious even as an outsider to the NA community. I haven't even had a HINT of this from any eu organisers, except perhaps wolf machina when he was running essentials. ETF2L and other members of etf are dedicated as hell, and hey I know the vast majority of their counterparts in NA are the same. I hope I'm wrong about all this or failing that I hope I'll be proven wrong for the sake of the NA community. And what's odd is now we point this out, people will say they don't resent the game or it's community. The people I have in mind either A) have openly claimed they hate the game/community, often with pride, B) behave in such a way that I can only assume they hate the very people they serve or worse yet C) they engage in both of these behaviours.
Edit: also @5unny no one said "many" organisers, it really is just a handful of these people.
[quote=DonDorito]
That's something I have never understood. So many people who take lead of organizing events resent this community yet still continue to do so. Beyond that, they believe they're immune from doing anything wrong. I'm sure others would step up if they left. This game and community aren't going anywhere, and that's no thanks to them. If they really resent this community so much either let it fester and die or show some people who actually care the ropes and pass the baton. That being said there are still a lot of people who love this community that work hard and do good for all of us and to those people I say, thank you. And even to those who are bitter today, I'm sure the community thanks you for all you have done past present and future. Just lighten up a little bit.[/quote]
You've put my point forward in a more positive way. It's easy for me to say this from the outside looking in and I acknowledge that, but ye it's painfully obvious even as an outsider to the NA community. I haven't even had a HINT of this from any eu organisers, except perhaps wolf machina when he was running essentials. ETF2L and other members of etf are dedicated as hell, and hey I know the vast majority of their counterparts in NA are the same. I hope I'm wrong about all this or failing that I hope I'll be proven wrong for the sake of the NA community. And what's odd is now we point this out, people will say they don't resent the game or it's community. The people I have in mind either A) have openly claimed they hate the game/community, often with pride, B) behave in such a way that I can only assume they hate the very people they serve or worse yet C) they engage in both of these behaviours.
Edit: also @5unny no one said "many" organisers, it really is just a handful of these people.
MakOne thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers. I can't think of any in ETF2L or even Europe as a whole, and I believe it may be a bigger issue in America, but a few people have come out in this thread only affirming this suspicion of mine.
These people don't play the game, haven't played it in years, and hold nothing but hatred for the average member of their community. I acknowledge that as an admin/leader/organiser you are going to deal with a lot of shit, but only a weak person in a position like that will react to this by going "well, I deal with scumbags all day, anyone that isn't me or with me is the scum of the community!". And ultimately they end up doing the community a disservice. Why put yourself in a position of power or authority if you aren't acting to serve the community?
Idk perhaps I'm reading far too much into this but this has always been my thought process and to see others come out and say it means I can't be the only one to at least perceive the behaviours of some of these people in the that way. Who knows, perhaps they are good faith actors and my own biases make me view them as the complete opposite.
I have seen many people from the older TFTV days actively shit talking or belittling newer members of the community that were wanting to get in to production, start a project etc. It feels like the same people you're mentioning have a vice grip on the higher part of TF2 and aren't willing to let go, thus making incredibly out of touch decisions that affect the community as a whole.
[quote=Mak]One thing I've noticed is some (definitely some, not even a lot or a majority) of the people in these high up community positions hold this community and the game in contempt and act like massive baby power trippers. I can't think of any in ETF2L or even Europe as a whole, and I believe it may be a bigger issue in America, but a few people have come out in this thread only affirming this suspicion of mine.
These people don't play the game, haven't played it in years, and hold nothing but hatred for the average member of their community. I acknowledge that as an admin/leader/organiser you are going to deal with a lot of shit, but only a weak person in a position like that will react to this by going "well, I deal with scumbags all day, anyone that isn't me or with me is the scum of the community!". And ultimately they end up doing the community a disservice. Why put yourself in a position of power or authority if you aren't acting to serve the community?
Idk perhaps I'm reading far too much into this but this has always been my thought process and to see others come out and say it means I can't be the only one to at least perceive the behaviours of some of these people in the that way. Who knows, perhaps they are good faith actors and my own biases make me view them as the complete opposite.[/quote]
I have seen many people from the older TFTV days actively shit talking or belittling newer members of the community that were wanting to get in to production, start a project etc. It feels like the same people you're mentioning have a vice grip on the higher part of TF2 and aren't willing to let go, thus making incredibly out of touch decisions that affect the community as a whole.
MRfunnyalien
Nursey:
Then you should do that
Friends are like you know
People
Their own people
Also Nursey:
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[quote=MRfunnyalien][/quote]
Nursey:
Then you should do that
Friends are like you know
People
Their own people
Also Nursey:
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289248987075182594/642449712561258516/unknown.png[/img]
"dont really have much to say about tsc anymore time to derail this thread to be about nursey so i can keep talking shit"
downfrag me you pussies
EDIT: This aged poorly, at the time I was absolutely unaware of Console's situation with dashner (although I was aware of uberchain's and I should have known better than to just accept contributing), and Nursey was such a non-issue, it was clear to us that she was not attending, her being brought up was solely for gaslighting.
"dont really have much to say about tsc anymore time to derail this thread to be about nursey so i can keep talking shit"
downfrag me you pussies
EDIT: This aged poorly, at the time I was absolutely unaware of Console's situation with dashner (although I was aware of uberchain's and I should have known better than to just accept contributing), and Nursey was such a non-issue, it was clear to us that she was not attending, her being brought up was solely for gaslighting.
im gonna have to lock this thread this is getting out of hand
im gonna have to lock this thread this is getting out of hand
twiikuu"dont really have much to say about tsc anymore time to derail this thread to be about nursey so i can keep talking shit"
downfrag me you pussies
so brave.... speaking his opinion on the face of potential downfrags....
the list of admins that can handle their position without powertripping is microscopic
[quote=twiikuu]"dont really have much to say about tsc anymore time to derail this thread to be about nursey so i can keep talking shit"
downfrag me you pussies[/quote]
so brave.... speaking his opinion on the face of potential downfrags....
the list of admins that can handle their position without powertripping is microscopic
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2Melontwiikuu"dont really have much to say about tsc anymore time to derail this thread to be about nursey so i can keep talking shit"
downfrag me you pussies
so brave.... speaking his opinion on the face of potential downfrags....
the list of admins that can handle their position without powertripping is microscopic
i've always kept myself out of admining positions
if you're thinking moderation, i haven't been for months
[quote=2Melon][quote=twiikuu]"dont really have much to say about tsc anymore time to derail this thread to be about nursey so i can keep talking shit"
downfrag me you pussies[/quote]
so brave.... speaking his opinion on the face of potential downfrags....
the list of admins that can handle their position without powertripping is microscopic[/quote]
i've always kept myself out of admining positions
if you're thinking moderation, i haven't been for months
https://imgur.com/a/8xGWcNt