I haven't seen anyone play engineer anywhere after first. I think generally after the sentry/tele goes down people don't want to risk the time to build another one.

Even if it were safe to build again, I don't see it working, especially with the rescue ranger banned. Assuming you're talking about trying to cover the 1st-last flank I can't find any good sentry spots, and there are so many corners on this part of the map it would be very easy to spam. Sentry is great on last in 5cp where engi can chill in spawn and defenders get an extra half player, but on this map engi would have to be outside of spawn in order to be effective, and that's just an easy target.

Alright, unfortunately there wasn't a lot of feedback on this map last week despite all the people I met who hated it so I'm making a late post based on the single real game I got. I also decided it'd be easier to make a shitty video instead of trying to screenshot the specific things I think are problems.

is this supposed to be an attack on people who... don't like the game enough? lmao

we may not know how to bridge the gap between casual and competitive in game, but we got the youtube bridge on lock

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Snakewater
Product
Gullywash
Badlands
Sunshine
Metalworks
Granary

Honestly, though, I don't really hate any of these maps. I think Granary is the weakest and any new maps that we want to play should take its slot, but I still like playing it.

Are we allowed to roster subs?

http://imgur.com/a/ybGsQ

Both images are pretty self explanatory, I think. That wall is see-through from only one side, and the flowerpots in between mid and 2nd can completely hide a stickytrap (there are two pots on 2nd and two on mid).

pl_outcast or reprobate or something; everyone hates it right off the bat for being payload in almost every game i play on it

nvm found it

I desperately want a substitute system. I get the whole "subbing out shit players" issue, but that's not really where the issue lies for me--I've had several games where someone just leaves the server after 10 minutes and then you have to play 5v6 for forever if the rest of your team doesn't feel like throwing. For real, just leave captains out of the equation--just give people who in the queue an option to join games in progress. If someone disconnects, doesn't come back for the allotted 5 minutes, and there are still more than 5 minutes left in the game, just have the system sub in someone from the queue.

Also what's up with the demo files? I tried to watch a demo of a game where this happened to me and it downloaded as "<filename>.dem.gz" so I have no idea how to play it

Just invite games, or will some lower bracket games get casted as well?

Also, will there be a list of teams participating? Was hoping to get some new map scrims in but I don't see that happening against regular season teams.

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you know unless you made the mask yourself there's all kind of shit in those filters, that shit was mass produced man

just a couple of on site stats. refresh the match page after the game ends. unfortunately there's no nice detailed stats like logs and ss have :/

Fuck I love this map. I wish I lived next to a bagel reservoir.

While engi definitely makes 5cp more slow, I'm not so sure about a/d. He can definitely make for a stronger defense in certain situations, but sentries are easy to spam down (especially with the ranger reban) and the engi himself is easy to kill.

I'm also going to paste a post I made earlier today: Honestly I don't get the whole "it's stalematey" argument to begin with. In 5cp stalemates are a real problem; it's possible for both teams to stand to lose more than they could gain by pushing and then spend a long 5 minutes poking at each other until one team gets bored enough to push anyway or bring out offclasses, but in payload and a/d, there's one team whose sole purpose is to push. I don't see why stalemates there would last longer than the time it takes to build an uber.