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kaidusI feel like it might be an idea to try and choose match highlights to reflect the story of the game. Some of these just seem to be a random decent play that happened that had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the match. The TF2center one is a good example of what you should aim for as it shows the team that ultimately won turning around a very difficult situation into a full wipe in their favour, but some of the others just show a player getting a kill spree who then went on to lose the match convincingly and who's "highlight" didn't make a contribution to the score or outcome.
Still a great video don't get me wrong, but also perhaps consider touching up the first 30 seconds or so though. Was not a particularly engaging start, just felt like Sideshow was reading a long list until it got into the highlights.
this is the biggest issue for me because i honestly don't think i can win no matter what i decide to do.
in the first episode, i highlighted the smaller things like a good push to win the game etc, but after talking to a bunch of people they thought that it was boring and it made the video slow. so instead in this video i tried to include only the flashiest and biggest plays. i also want to point out that you're probably the top 1% of tf2 and there's a lot of things that seem obvious or you see things in plays that others can't. so at this point it seemed to me the majority is with highlights for wow factor rather than the more subtle plays.
to put this in perspective, the highest voted 'worthy' highlight in my survey is big airshots with 83%. the highest highlight type that's along the lines of what you're asking, 'big uber' is 60% at 6th place. the third most popular highlight type is 3 or more killstreak at 73%.
i definitely understand where you're coming from and i hope there is a decent compromise people can help me settle with.
the video's on comp.tf now! please send people there instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS4lOH2z05k
as for the one on my own channel, i'll be unlisting it. thanks boys!
backcap episode 2!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS4lOH2z05k
acknowledgements:
i think at one point where sideshow was talking there is an odd audio beep sort of thing
one of the highlight's title is extremely quick
voiceovers didn't match up with the video very well
sorry for the odd issues here and there but i didn't want to delay the video for another 3 hours fixing those small issues (except the voiceover thing).
share with your friends / comment etc <3
apparently the video is blocked in germany, has anyone had issues so far?
http://i.imgur.com/YVUw8WJ.png
(also i'm going to stop reading survey results tomorrow, so last chance to voice your opinion)
hi
thanks to the volunteers helping me out so far
after some discussion there's some questions we couldn't really answer with enough respect by ourselves, so here's a survey for anyone or anything to answer:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1LjuTJkWkA6pqhJmfiiYJbv1R40kV5NgvRByYZy6XBVU/viewform
thanks :D
update: we made a slack and we're starting to invite people in. if you read this within 2 hours of this post's inception you can add me and i'll invite you. otherwise kaneco will come embrace you tomorrow.
thanks everyone for the amazing support :D
also i'm sure you all have amazing voices but that's the most popular thing people want to help with, so if you're only up to help with that i'm sorry i can't accommodate all of you.
i'm going to add an extra comment that you don't need to have any special skills or be available for watching vods etc - there's a lot of things involved in editing the video and more people is always better. some examples of things i could get help for: doing voice overs / organizing an upload schedule / just voicing an opinion on things / music selection / anything really.
thanks for all of your feedback, i'm pretty set on continuing the series now then. i read through all of your comments but it would be ridiculous quoting every one of you guys.
about the voice: i did about 40 takes on the different commentary parts until my voice started getting really sore and i just said fuck it and did everything in one take. but from what i can tell the popular opinion is to be more energetic.
about the music: not many people said much about it and the people who did indicated in some way it wasn't a big issue, so i won't change my approach to that. i will consider turning down the music further in general, but i want to avoid lowering music during clips since the effort basically multiplies for each highlight i have. but i'll consider it if people agree that i should reduce highlights even more.
about neutrality: i think chiefdog was the only person who said anything about it but i would want some more opinions on this because if i go down the route of just stating facts, i could see how it gets boring to some people and once i lock myself out of making comments for humor etc i wouldn't want to go back on it.
about the amount of highlights: at the start i thought people would care more about maintaining match integrity, meaning that they want a good idea of how the match went and the general flow of who was more dominant etc. i had clips for every round cap until i cut them all out because it would make the video insanely long. next video i can cut down on the highlights even further. what do people prefer more - at least 1 highlight of each match that got casted or only highlight very worthy things and it doesn't matter if the video ignores the 'less' notable ones?
about transitions: cirlo - do you mean i should not do the title thing at all? i mostly included it because i wanted to have options available for me to provide context to the viewer if i needed to, and if i didn't want to include any context i would just slap some non-sense on it. dont - i'll keep in mind that people don't enjoy missing things - i wasn't sure how to balance this since i know some people are happy to just pause the video. i also recognize that some of you are upset casters are cut off and the volumes could be faded in and out better.
about bullshit of the week: when i made the video i thought people would get bored with just someone talking about news, so i wanted to add something that would leave the video on a 'higher' note. obviously and even i admit that it was pretty badly done, but the general idea was that i wanted to break away from the video with something more light hearted for people to think about. and i while making the video i thought it was out of place too, but i suppose i'm happy people thought the same. should i keep it and do it in the different way, or just remove it entirely?
about general length: most of you agree that the video could be even shorter.
to deetr: i considered doing this (re-recording stuff the cameraman missed) but my concern was where to draw the line with how much time i should put into it. the issues i thought were troubling were: 1. looking through the demo for the right tick, 2. my own camera work inside the demo (if i wanted to give extra camera angles etc), 3. recording and rendering the video (from past projects i've done on tf2 this is actually pretty time consuming, 4. hud - how do i know which one to use? 5, all of the etf2l clips were off-sync due to an issue with how i got them, and it was a massive pain. i'm not sure if i want to deal with audio sync issues anymore.
for everyone else, thanks for all your support! i want to emphasize that just saying good job really helped me judge the general reception of the video and of course it validates my time commitment to this.
tldr for questions i want answered (by anyone):
highlights - at least 1 per casted match, or just coolest things of the week?
bs of the week - keep it and do it differently, or cut it completely?
video length - 10 to 15 is the sweetspot?
recording things - how important is this to people?
these are the important things i wanted answered but i'd encourage you to read the other stuff about because i go into detail about other equally important things.
special thanks to my nerds andrew gothmog and teejay, to the best pocket showstopper and encouraging words from getawhale
Christmas Special:
https://youtu.be/xAC1mTTao8MM
backcap #7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59p-xso86N4
previous episodes:
op:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zireWqM3kk
what is this about? my attempt to help with the struggle to keep up with competitive tf2. there's a lot of matches that get casted and not enough free time in a day to watch them all. basically it's a condensed 'news show' that tries to give you all the information you need for that week of tf2 action.
keep in mind that this is JUST a first episode, so it's not 100% polished (i think my commentary was absolute shit + this is like 4 days late) but i'm putting this out there for people to take a look and see if there's any point in continuing it and making more of these. it's more like a pilot of a tv show.
if you enjoyed it post a youtube comment or something here so i can judge for myself if it's something i should continue to pursue. and if you liked it, it would be great if you left some feedback so they get better each episode.
before you point it out i know there were one or two points where audio was weird with the match highlights and 'bullshit of the week' is super low production quality (kinda meant to be tbh)
who cares if Saints is gonna get rolled we're at dreamhack YAY
SonnyBlackVancouver Island University for my semester abroad
Noob you went to the wrong side of the country
UofT St George?
You need to take some credit for accelerating the Asian scene since the betting has made a lot of people more interested and even though I'm not a part of it anymore, the people you've inspired to keep the ball rolling at asiafortress are irreplaceable. Also I remember you had an odd obsession with checking on the world's power grids as if in case Finland runs out of power you were gonna send them a few batteries??
Honestly I think if people here can cover the costs for an Asian team, we can go ahead and do it anyways. Despite probably being crushed it'll be good to just benchmark ourselves against the rest of the world. Back in August I talked to the Cute Beast leader and he was excited about the idea of going to i55 and from what he told me, it's actually pretty doable.