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#241
1 Frags +

I'd go, but it would be way too expensive for me. GXL makes much more sense.

Will be watching from home though. Hope everyone has fun, and hopefully I can make it to one of these LANs! :D

I'd go, but it would be way too expensive for me. GXL makes much more sense.

Will be watching from home though. Hope everyone has fun, and hopefully I can make it to one of these LANs! :D
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#242
2 Frags +

I'm sad that all of the top level streams have gone dark in the lead up to this :(

except iM, thanks you guys

I'm sad that all of the top level streams have gone dark in the lead up to this :(

except iM, thanks you guys
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#243
1 Frags +

is VTV covering this? i assume so

is VTV covering this? i assume so
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#244
-3 Frags +

yes

yes
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#245
9 Frags +
Langecage-is VTV covering this? i assume so
We're still unsure if coverage will be flying under the VTV or TF.TV banner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgk-lA12FBk

[quote=Lange][quote=cage-]is VTV covering this? i assume so[/quote]

We're still unsure if coverage will be flying under the VTV or TF.TV banner[/quote]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgk-lA12FBk[/youtube]
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#246
30 Frags +

Well,

http://i.imgur.com/6uxRpEc.jpg

Well,
[img]http://i.imgur.com/6uxRpEc.jpg[/img]
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#247
serveme.tf
19 Frags +

Getting ahead of things here...but oh well....

I'm warming to the idea of doing it on the tf.tv stream. We'll probably be shutting down both VTF2 and VTV after i52 anyway, so kinda silly to have people watch a stream that won't be back.
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.

Things were looking quite grim a few weeks ago. Taking stock of what we could bring for i52, both in people and resources, we were quite sure we couldn't put on anything like the i49 show. After reaching out to tf.tv EU to see if they'd might want to run it instead, it turned it out they were in no position to do it either.

The recent preliminary meeting has me in a positive mood though. We're looking good in terms of gear, OK-ish on casters, OK-ish on number of production crew. I mean we're asking 2 Americans to fly over just so we have enough people that know how to computer, that's how desperate EU casting situation seems to be atm.

Also, it would be nice to find people for:

  • Basic photoshopping for the overlay images. Nothing fancy, just changing caster photos and team names. That kind of stuff. Might not even have to be on site to do that. Anything random we might need on stream on short notice.
  • On-screen talent. Bonus points if you know the game, can look in a camera and ask good short questions. (I <3 you byte, but look in the goddamn camera)
Getting ahead of things here...but oh well....

I'm warming to the idea of doing it on the tf.tv stream. We'll probably be shutting down both VTF2 and VTV after i52 anyway, so kinda silly to have people watch a stream that won't be back.
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.

Things were looking quite grim a few weeks ago. Taking stock of what we could bring for i52, both in people and resources, we were quite sure we couldn't put on anything like the i49 show. After reaching out to tf.tv EU to see if they'd might want to run it instead, it turned it out they were in no position to do it either.

The recent preliminary meeting has me in a positive mood though. We're looking good in terms of gear, OK-ish on casters, OK-ish on number of production crew. I mean we're asking 2 Americans to fly over just so we have enough people that know how to computer, that's how desperate EU casting situation seems to be atm.


Also, it would be nice to find people for:
[list]
[*] Basic photoshopping for the overlay images. Nothing fancy, just changing caster photos and team names. That kind of stuff. Might not even have to be on site to do that. Anything random we might need on stream on short notice.
[*] On-screen talent. Bonus points if you know the game, can look in a camera and ask good short questions. (I <3 you byte, but look in the goddamn camera)
[/list]
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#248
22 Frags +

From a "good-of-the-community" viewpoint it would be wiser to run it on the TFTV stream to reach out to more viewers; VTV is mainly a European broadcasting organisation, while TFTV is more internationalised. TFTV has way more followers and viewers so their brand is more popular. The HUDs and the assets are really good, but you can't really have all the VTV assets on a TFTV stream, it's going to be time to let some of it go, sadly.

From a "good-of-the-community" viewpoint it would be wiser to run it on the TFTV stream to reach out to more viewers; VTV is mainly a European broadcasting organisation, while TFTV is more internationalised. TFTV has way more followers and viewers so their brand is more popular. The HUDs and the assets are really good, but you can't really have all the VTV assets on a TFTV stream, it's going to be time to let some of it go, sadly.
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#249
13 Frags +

I think ideally you somehow work it out so it's branded mainly TFTV, but you can certainly have vtv as a "casting partner" or something like that before you put the brand to bed fully.

I think ideally you somehow work it out so it's branded mainly TFTV, but you can certainly have vtv as a "casting partner" or something like that before you put the brand to bed fully.
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#250
48 Frags +

Please don't let Byte cast.

Cheers,
face

Please don't let Byte cast.

Cheers,
face
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#251
4 Frags +
Ariethat's how desperate EU casting situation seems to be atm.

Guess it's meant to be, Admirable. Go out there and cast some games! It's what you are destined to do! Now go, and fulfill thy regal quest!

Edit: that's not to say the situation has to be desperate, just that there's no way you can refuse now.. let's make sure we're not sending the wrong message here

[quote=Arie]that's how desperate EU casting situation seems to be atm.[/quote]
Guess it's meant to be, Admirable. Go out there and cast some games! It's what you are destined to do! Now go, and fulfill thy regal quest!

Edit: that's not to say the situation has to be desperate, just that there's no way you can refuse now.. let's make sure we're not sending the wrong message here
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#252
14 Frags +

Me and commander x have the casting situation on lock down.

Me and commander x have the casting situation on lock down.
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#253
5 Frags +

How do we make sure Valve doesn't nerf stickies again right on the eve of i52?

How do we make sure Valve doesn't nerf stickies again right on the eve of i52?
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#254
6 Frags +
WARHURYEAHMe and commander x have the casting situation on lock down.

The perfect Bromance

[quote=WARHURYEAH]Me and commander x have the casting situation on lock down.[/quote]
The perfect Bromance
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#255
6 Frags +

I wish Pledge was still casting. One of my favorite commentators.

I wish Pledge was still casting. One of my favorite commentators.
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#256
14 Frags +

$

$
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#257
4 Frags +
facePlease don't let Byte cast.

Cheers,
face

FACE WHERE WAS OUR GAME U SAID THERE'D BE ONE

rip bpd

[quote=face]Please don't let Byte cast.

Cheers,
face[/quote]

FACE WHERE WAS OUR GAME U SAID THERE'D BE ONE

rip bpd
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#258
29 Frags +
ArieNow I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.]

I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but the TFTV hud looks much cleaner and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
VanillaTV
TFTV

[quote=Arie]
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.][/quote]

I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but the TFTV hud looks much cleaner and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
[url=http://i.imgur.com/PRF4Kly.png]VanillaTV[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/9kDrCpy.png]TFTV[/url]
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#259
6 Frags +

you hatin on the bird?

you hatin on the bird?
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#260
4 Frags +
OOVOOVyou hatin on the bird?

Best, most subtle branding of all the casting HUDs.

[quote=OOVOOV]you hatin on the bird?[/quote]

Best, most subtle branding of all the casting HUDs.
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#261
12 Frags +

what ever happens shits gonna be good with the people we have on board so no knickers need be twisting just yet.

what ever happens shits gonna be good with the people we have on board so no knickers need be twisting just yet.
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#262
-9 Frags +
MemphisVonArieNow I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.]
I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but the TFTV hud looks much cleaner and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
VanillaTV
TFTV

Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.

[quote=MemphisVon][quote=Arie]
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.][/quote]

I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but the TFTV hud looks much cleaner and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
[url=http://i.imgur.com/PRF4Kly.png]VanillaTV[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/9kDrCpy.png]TFTV[/url][/quote]
Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.
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#263
10 Frags +
SetsulMemphisVonArieNow I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.]
I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but the TFTV hud looks much cleaner and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
VanillaTV
TFTV
Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.

Because that's literally the only thing I said.

[quote=Setsul][quote=MemphisVon][quote=Arie]
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.][/quote]

I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but [b]the TFTV hud looks much cleaner[/b] and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
[url=http://i.imgur.com/PRF4Kly.png]VanillaTV[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/9kDrCpy.png]TFTV[/url][/quote]
Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.[/quote]

Because that's [i]literally[/i] the only thing I said.
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#264
1 Frags +
MemphisVonSetsulMemphisVonArieNow I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.]
I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but the TFTV hud looks much cleaner and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
VanillaTV
TFTV
Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.

Because that's literally the only thing I said.

There's more to assets than a HUD, but you are right about the HUD part.

[quote=MemphisVon][quote=Setsul][quote=MemphisVon][quote=Arie]
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.][/quote]

I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but [b]the TFTV hud looks much cleaner[/b] and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
[url=http://i.imgur.com/PRF4Kly.png]VanillaTV[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/9kDrCpy.png]TFTV[/url][/quote]
Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.[/quote]

Because that's [i]literally[/i] the only thing I said.[/quote]

There's more to assets than a HUD, but you are right about the HUD part.
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#265
1 Frags +
DavidTheWinMemphisVonSetsulMemphisVonArieNow I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.]
I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but the TFTV hud looks much cleaner and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
VanillaTV
TFTV
Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.

Because that's literally the only thing I said.

There's more to assets than a HUD, but you are right about the HUD part.

Yeah, but it would look strange imo to have the VTV overlay mixed with the TFTV hud. Unless you just had the bird up in the corner with the TFTV frisbee as a cosponsor.

[quote=DavidTheWin][quote=MemphisVon][quote=Setsul][quote=MemphisVon][quote=Arie]
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.][/quote]

I have to respectfully disagree. I understand that you're quite attached to them but [b]the TFTV hud looks much cleaner[/b] and doesn't take up as much screen real estate.

Screenshots for comparison.
[url=http://i.imgur.com/PRF4Kly.png]VanillaTV[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/9kDrCpy.png]TFTV[/url][/quote]
Because changing the size of a hud is literally the most difficult thing to do.[/quote]

Because that's [i]literally[/i] the only thing I said.[/quote]

There's more to assets than a HUD, but you are right about the HUD part.[/quote]
Yeah, but it would look strange imo to have the VTV overlay mixed with the TFTV hud. Unless you just had the bird up in the corner with the TFTV frisbee as a cosponsor.
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#266
0 Frags +
VoloderYeah, but it would look strange imo to have the VTV overlay mixed with the TFTV hud. Unless you just had the bird up in the corner with the TFTV frisbee as a cosponsor.

This would be the best way to do it IMO. As for other assets, we have VTV banners and posters that TF.TV don't have, but could make I suppose.

[quote=Voloder]
Yeah, but it would look strange imo to have the VTV overlay mixed with the TFTV hud. Unless you just had the bird up in the corner with the TFTV frisbee as a cosponsor.[/quote]

This would be the best way to do it IMO. As for other assets, we have VTV banners and posters that TF.TV don't have, but could make I suppose.
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#267
-12 Frags +
facePlease don't let Byte cast.

Cheers,
face

I suggest you don't watch or listen while I cast then, feeling's mutual to your presence on the chat. Abuse ain't needed show some appreciation towards this i52 setup muppet.

Cheers

Byte

[quote=face]Please don't let Byte cast.

Cheers,
face[/quote]

I suggest you don't watch or listen while I cast then, feeling's mutual to your presence on the chat. Abuse ain't needed show some appreciation towards this i52 setup muppet.

Cheers

Byte
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#268
6 Frags +
ArieGetting ahead of things here...but oh well....

I'm warming to the idea of doing it on the tf.tv stream. We'll probably be shutting down both VTF2 and VTV after i52 anyway, so kinda silly to have people watch a stream that won't be back.
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.

Things were looking quite grim a few weeks ago. Taking stock of what we could bring for i52, both in people and resources, we were quite sure we couldn't put on anything like the i49 show. After reaching out to tf.tv EU to see if they'd might want to run it instead, it turned it out they were in no position to do it either.

The recent preliminary meeting has me in a positive mood though. We're looking good in terms of gear, OK-ish on casters, OK-ish on number of production crew. I mean we're asking 2 Americans to fly over just so we have enough people that know how to computer, that's how desperate EU casting situation seems to be atm.

Also, it would be nice to find people for:
  • Basic photoshopping for the overlay images. Nothing fancy, just changing caster photos and team names. That kind of stuff. Might not even have to be on site to do that. Anything random we might need on stream on short notice.
  • On-screen talent. Bonus points if you know the game, can look in a camera and ask good short questions. (I <3 you byte, but look in the goddamn camera)

What Arie said, although I can do a good presentation job if I didn't have to manage alot on my plate... done it many a times on grand final stage :P

But yes if we have a dedicated presenter we'd gladly welcome him/her if they can help out. VanillaTV will be closing down unless a suitable figure can continue on the legacy and manage such a volunteer org. If not then the TF2 scene 'should' be in safe hands with TF.TV =)

We have a line up as Arie mentioned for casters/techies and so on, so just stringing that all together with Multiplay, by hopefully end of play July.

I'll update you all in this thread at the end of the month.

Cheers

Byte

[quote=Arie]Getting ahead of things here...but oh well....

I'm warming to the idea of doing it on the tf.tv stream. We'll probably be shutting down both VTF2 and VTV after i52 anyway, so kinda silly to have people watch a stream that won't be back.
Now I am rather fond of the VTV assets, the HUD, the scoreboard, overlays, the bird and such, so would love to see that again for the i52 stream, especially as its swan song.

Things were looking quite grim a few weeks ago. Taking stock of what we could bring for i52, both in people and resources, we were quite sure we couldn't put on anything like the i49 show. After reaching out to tf.tv EU to see if they'd might want to run it instead, it turned it out they were in no position to do it either.

The recent preliminary meeting has me in a positive mood though. We're looking good in terms of gear, OK-ish on casters, OK-ish on number of production crew. I mean we're asking 2 Americans to fly over just so we have enough people that know how to computer, that's how desperate EU casting situation seems to be atm.


Also, it would be nice to find people for:
[list]
[*] Basic photoshopping for the overlay images. Nothing fancy, just changing caster photos and team names. That kind of stuff. Might not even have to be on site to do that. Anything random we might need on stream on short notice.
[*] On-screen talent. Bonus points if you know the game, can look in a camera and ask good short questions. (I <3 you byte, but look in the goddamn camera)
[/list][/quote]


What Arie said, although I can do a good presentation job if I didn't have to manage alot on my plate... done it many a times on grand final stage :P

But yes if we have a dedicated presenter we'd gladly welcome him/her if they can help out. VanillaTV will be closing down unless a suitable figure can continue on the legacy and manage such a volunteer org. If not then the TF2 scene 'should' be in safe hands with TF.TV =)

We have a line up as Arie mentioned for casters/techies and so on, so just stringing that all together with Multiplay, by hopefully end of play July.

I'll update you all in this thread at the end of the month.

Cheers

Byte
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#269
-3 Frags +

make this a 3 team effort? Get some eXtv assets?

make this a 3 team effort? Get some eXtv assets?
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#270
7 Frags +

As for the assets, I am totally fine with streaming the entire weekend on TF.TV's stream.

Main reasons:

- It's way more active
- It's 'internationalized' so everyone knows about the org on a global scale.

So it would be smart to stick with the tf.tv stream, however I/we want and AFAIK it has been agreed with Enigma that we'd used VTV assets/resources in all cases.

TF.TV still gets even more exposure by being on their stream, money from all the viewers and so on, is more than they could hope for considering we have the pitch :P

Either way bottom line is that it makes way more sense to be on TF.TV's stream as VanillaTV is shutting down after i52, which will be mentioned @ grand final.

Hope this concludes all conceptions of HUD's/splashes any other asset related visual aspect!

Cheers

Byte

As for the assets, I am totally fine with streaming the entire weekend on TF.TV's stream.

Main reasons:

- It's way more active
- It's 'internationalized' so everyone knows about the org on a global scale.

So it would be smart to stick with the tf.tv stream, however I/we want and AFAIK it has been agreed with Enigma that we'd used VTV assets/resources in all cases.

TF.TV still gets even more exposure by being on their stream, money from all the viewers and so on, is more than they could hope for considering we have the pitch :P

Either way bottom line is that it makes way more sense to be on TF.TV's stream as VanillaTV is shutting down after i52, which will be mentioned @ grand final.

Hope this concludes all conceptions of HUD's/splashes any other asset related visual aspect!

Cheers

Byte
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