I live in Australia, where tipping isn't customary. In fact, I think it's possible that people can actually get in trouble for keeping a tip; something to do with bribery or something?
My tipping mostly sits at "I paid for this $8 thing with a $10 bill and can't be arsed lugging around change" and letting them keep it.
I live in Australia, where tipping isn't customary. In fact, I think it's possible that people can actually get in trouble for keeping a tip; something to do with bribery or something?
My tipping mostly sits at "I paid for this $8 thing with a $10 bill and can't be arsed lugging around change" and letting them keep it.
[size=16]10%[/size]
[size=10]sorry, I'm poor.[/size]
why does the concept of me not feeling sorry for a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood equate to me barely understanding human emotions?
Isn't it kind of arrogant to assume that people having a bad job is a result of their lack of initiative, and a failure on their part? There are many people with many stories, a lot of them are working their way up, others may have been given the short end of the stick. Never mock a pain you haven't felt, or assume that another person is a lesser because of their struggles, if you don't know what they are. I once went to school with someone who was raped at 14, had to bear the child because of the laws in the state, and raised the kid on the wages of a waitress, while trying to go to school on the other hand as well.
Alternatively, our bodies often fail us in unexpected ways that limit our lot in life, make life more difficult than for others. Is it inconcievable that someone might be struck by a drunk driver, and lose some of their ability to remember facts? This happened to one of my uncles, education hasn't been a possiblity for him since.
[quote] why does the concept of me not feeling sorry for a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood equate to me barely understanding human emotions?[/quote]
Isn't it kind of arrogant to assume that people having a bad job is a result of their lack of initiative, and a failure on their part? There are many people with many stories, a lot of them are working their way up, others may have been given the short end of the stick. Never mock a pain you haven't felt, or assume that another person is a lesser because of their struggles, if you don't know what they are. I once went to school with someone who was raped at 14, had to bear the child because of the laws in the state, and raised the kid on the wages of a waitress, while trying to go to school on the other hand as well.
Alternatively, our bodies often fail us in unexpected ways that limit our lot in life, make life more difficult than for others. Is it inconcievable that someone might be struck by a drunk driver, and lose some of their ability to remember facts? This happened to one of my uncles, education hasn't been a possiblity for him since.
AMCIsn't it kind of arrogant to assume that people having a bad job is a result of their lack of initiative, and a failure on their part?
Perhaps, but I make no assumptions. I was going to address this very thing in my most recent post, but pulled it out to avoid opening the door to politics, governmental control, taxes, and location-dependent laws. Yes, some people are dealt a bad hand or are otherwise unable to contribute to the improvement of their working lives. We have special programs (welfare, disability, WIC, etc) to assist in these types of situations. As part of the workforce, you are contributing to these programs. It is sad to see such a case firsthand, and it'd be great if those cases could be perfectly resolved. Unfortunately, they cannot, and these types of cases account for a very low percentage of people who work as servers, etc.
Once you start trying to make up for everyone's unfortunate life events, you may as well say that we're obligated to give every homeless person a handful of change because they were dealt a bad hand. Yes, it sucks that bad things happen to good people, but, once again, how does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that, especially when there are countless financial assistance programs that do just that?
[quote=AMC]
Isn't it kind of arrogant to assume that people having a bad job is a result of their lack of initiative, and a failure on their part? [/quote]
Perhaps, but I make no assumptions. I was going to address this very thing in my most recent post, but pulled it out to avoid opening the door to politics, governmental control, taxes, and location-dependent laws. Yes, some people are dealt a bad hand or are otherwise unable to contribute to the improvement of their working lives. We have special programs (welfare, disability, WIC, etc) to assist in these types of situations. As part of the workforce, you are contributing to these programs. It is sad to see such a case firsthand, and it'd be great if those cases could be perfectly resolved. Unfortunately, they cannot, and these types of cases account for a very low percentage of people who work as servers, etc.
Once you start trying to make up for everyone's unfortunate life events, you may as well say that we're obligated to give every homeless person a handful of change because they were dealt a bad hand. Yes, it sucks that bad things happen to good people, but, once again, how does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that, especially when there are countless financial assistance programs that do just that?
smakersKhakimaybe it's just me but having read several of your posts smaka, I feel obliged to accuse you of being a terminator with a very basic understanding of human emotions that's slowly learning and evolving. Also for some reason you went back in time to play competitive tf2 for some reason
:p
I donate both time and money to various charities, I help friends and family when they're in binds, and I generally am a good Samaritan when possible. I want to assume your post is mostly facetious, but I don't really know you, so it's hard to read your intentions from the text. If you are indeed calling me a heartless bastard, then I must ask, why does the concept of me not feeling sorry for a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood equate to me barely understanding human emotions? Is it terribly wrong of me that I feel each person should help themselves before being helped by others?
yeah my post was meant to be more sarcastic than confrontational, and I'm not calling you a heartless bastard, however I would say your point of view in this regard is a bit short-sighted/naive/selfish, for several reasons including what AMC mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ
[quote=smakers][quote=Khaki]
maybe it's just me but having read several of your posts smaka, I feel obliged to accuse you of being a terminator with a very basic understanding of human emotions that's slowly learning and evolving. Also for some reason you went back in time to play competitive tf2 for some reason[/quote]
:p
I donate both time and money to various charities, I help friends and family when they're in binds, and I generally am a good Samaritan when possible. I want to assume your post is mostly facetious, but I don't really know you, so it's hard to read your intentions from the text. If you are indeed calling me a heartless bastard, then I must ask, why does the concept of me not feeling sorry for a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood equate to me barely understanding human emotions? Is it terribly wrong of me that I feel each person should help themselves before being helped by others?[/quote]
yeah my post was meant to be more sarcastic than confrontational, and I'm not calling you a heartless bastard, however I would say your point of view in this regard is a bit short-sighted/naive/selfish, for several reasons including what AMC mentioned.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ[/youtube]
technosex$2 but I never get food delivered from places further than 1 mile from me.
That's understandable
[quote=technosex]$2 but I never get food delivered from places further than 1 mile from me.[/quote]
That's understandable
i've worked in the food service industry for the past ~7 years (part of high school and while im finishing up college) so i'm a heavy tipper. i generally start at ~30% and let servers work their way down via fuck ups (empty drink sitting on table too long, messing up order, just being a shitty server in general, etc) and if they do an impeccable job they get 30% so good for them.
i also like to frequent the same few really good places around me, so if the first time i go in and drop a 30-40% tip i know the next time i go in i will get fast, quality service. i've also gotten a LOT of free shit on return trips to restaurants/bars/etc from tipping steep.
befriend waitstaff/bartenders, tf.tv, that shit pays dividends. a local pub i go to i get buy 1 get 3 free every single time i go there now because of steep tipping.
i've worked in the food service industry for the past ~7 years (part of high school and while im finishing up college) so i'm a heavy tipper. i generally start at ~30% and let servers work their way down via fuck ups (empty drink sitting on table too long, messing up order, just being a shitty server in general, etc) and if they do an impeccable job they get 30% so good for them.
i also like to frequent the same few really good places around me, so if the first time i go in and drop a 30-40% tip i know the next time i go in i will get fast, quality service. i've also gotten a LOT of free shit on return trips to restaurants/bars/etc from tipping steep.
befriend waitstaff/bartenders, tf.tv, that shit pays dividends. a local pub i go to i get buy 1 get 3 free every single time i go there now because of steep tipping.
does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that,
I never said it was. What I said, "[with the way tipping and its effect on price works, you are basically buying the service, like in any other business, when you tip.]" The service being the food combined with the service. Your stance seems to be, to me, that you should treat them with less respect than anyone else doing their job for a price because they are "a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood."
[quote] does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that,[/quote]
I never said it was. What I said, "[with the way tipping and its effect on price works, you are basically buying the service, like in any other business, when you tip.]" The service being the food combined with the service. Your stance seems to be, to me, that you should treat them with less respect than anyone else doing their job for a price because they are "a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood."
Interesting thread, made me remember the old classic intro of Reservoir dogs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKKxfeNl4uk
Basically both sides are correct, imo. You tip because those people count on it, but it's lame their wages are an utter disgrace. I live far from this world, but we still tip here, usually mostly around 10-15%.
Interesting thread, made me remember the old classic intro of Reservoir dogs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKKxfeNl4uk
Basically both sides are correct, imo. You tip because those people count on it, but it's lame their wages are an utter disgrace. I live far from this world, but we still tip here, usually mostly around 10-15%.
smakersIf you are indeed calling me a heartless bastard, then I must ask, why does the concept of me not feeling sorry for a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood equate to me barely understanding human emotions? Is it terribly wrong of me that I feel each person should help themselves before being helped by others?
because with our current economy, hiring system, and unbalanced wages, there are millions of people out there who DO have the education and skills for better jobs but are unable to get into the job market due to the mentioned reasons. i guarantee you that many of the hardworking waiters and retail workers who have helped you have gone to trade schools and colleges and are doing everything they can to get into their field, but it's difficult with a tight job market and with so few companies unwilling to hire and train new workers. you practically need a college degree before being hired for even the most minimal of retail jobs now. then those companies can get away with inflating the salaries and bonuses of their ceos while refusing to pay their workers a wage they can actually live on.
tips are almost always the only way waiters and servers make any money in our system here. by not tipping or giving low tips when you get a perfectly decent service, you are simply shaming them and degrading them for their job. you don't know these people. have you ever asked them if they've gone to college and are desperately trying to pay off loans? have you ever asked them if they have any kids? if they want to work elsewhere but are unable to leave due to travel/benefit restrictions? a person's job does not immediately reflect their personality, smarts, and skills. go on, start asking your servers these questions. you may never change the way you tip but people who look down on other people aren't cool ok ok.
[quote=smakers]If you are indeed calling me a heartless bastard, then I must ask, why does the concept of me not feeling sorry for a person who has failed to enhance their education/skillset for the betterment of their own livelihood equate to me barely understanding human emotions? Is it terribly wrong of me that I feel each person should help themselves before being helped by others?[/quote]
because with our current economy, hiring system, and unbalanced wages, there are millions of people out there who DO have the education and skills for better jobs but are unable to get into the job market due to the mentioned reasons. i guarantee you that many of the hardworking waiters and retail workers who have helped you have gone to trade schools and colleges and are doing everything they can to get into their field, but it's difficult with a tight job market and with so few companies unwilling to hire and train new workers. you practically need a college degree before being hired for even the most minimal of retail jobs now. then those companies can get away with inflating the salaries and bonuses of their ceos while refusing to pay their workers a wage they can actually live on.
tips are almost always the only way waiters and servers make any money in our system here. by not tipping or giving low tips when you get a perfectly decent service, you are simply shaming them and degrading them for their job. you don't know these people. have you ever asked them if they've gone to college and are desperately trying to pay off loans? have you ever asked them if they have any kids? if they want to work elsewhere but are unable to leave due to travel/benefit restrictions? a person's job does not immediately reflect their personality, smarts, and skills. go on, start asking your servers these questions. you may never change the way you tip but people who look down on other people aren't cool ok ok.
smakersOnce you start trying to make up for everyone's unfortunate life events, you may as well say that we're obligated to give every homeless person a handful of change because they were dealt a bad hand. Yes, it sucks that bad things happen to good people, but, once again, how does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that, especially when there are countless financial assistance programs that do just that?
Ebeneezer_Scrooge"At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge, ... it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."
"Are there no prisons?"
"Plenty of prisons..."
"And the Union workhouses." demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"
"Both very busy, sir..."
"Those who are badly off must go there."
"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."
"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."
[quote=smakers]Once you start trying to make up for everyone's unfortunate life events, you may as well say that we're obligated to give every homeless person a handful of change because they were dealt a bad hand. Yes, it sucks that bad things happen to good people, but, once again, how does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that, especially when there are countless financial assistance programs that do just that?[/quote]
[quote=Ebeneezer_Scrooge]"At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge, ... it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."
"Are there no prisons?"
"Plenty of prisons..."
"And the Union workhouses." demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"
"Both very busy, sir..."
"Those who are badly off must go there."
"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."
"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."[/quote]
Pizza is gods gift to the humans.
Pizza is gods gift to the humans.
Tipping makes a lot of sense for any job where the quality of service provided by the employee:
1. Matters.
2. Can be judged by the customer.
The tip is pretty much just a portion of the price left up to you to decide. Of course you're always able to tip extra for good service, but having a socially expected typical amount like 15-20% that is factored into employee pay gives you that much room to reduce the price you pay after receiving bad service.
If you live in a country where tipping is expected for certain things and you don't like it, you can always pick a reasonable percentage and never deviate from it regardless of how well you were treated. But if that percentage is way lower than normal (or you just never tip because you think it's stupid), you're effectively abusing the system to get a discount. The world's not going to come crashing down because of it, but it places you in roughly the same territory as people who park across two spaces, or don't return shopping carts to the little corrals, or don't refill the office printer paper when they use the last sheets.
Tipping makes a lot of sense for any job where the quality of service provided by the employee:
1. Matters.
2. Can be judged by the customer.
The tip is pretty much just a portion of the price left up to you to decide. Of course you're always able to tip extra for good service, but having a socially expected typical amount like 15-20% that is factored into employee pay gives you that much room to reduce the price you pay after receiving bad service.
If you live in a country where tipping is expected for certain things and you don't like it, you can always pick a reasonable percentage and never deviate from it regardless of how well you were treated. But if that percentage is way lower than normal (or you just never tip because you think it's stupid), you're effectively abusing the system to get a discount. The world's not going to come crashing down because of it, but it places you in roughly the same territory as people who park across two spaces, or don't return shopping carts to the little corrals, or don't refill the office printer paper when they use the last sheets.
MaxHaxNever less than 3 dollars. They aren't going from the kitchen to the dining room, they are taking their car and walking the food all the way to your house.
dont you deliver sandwiches for living... stop trying to lift your hourly wage bruh
[quote=MaxHax]Never less than 3 dollars. They aren't going from the kitchen to the dining room, they are taking their car and walking the food all the way to your house.[/quote]
dont you deliver sandwiches for living... stop trying to lift your hourly wage bruh
smakers
Once you start trying to make up for everyone's unfortunate life events, you may as well say that we're obligated to give every homeless person a handful of change because they were dealt a bad hand. Yes, it sucks that bad things happen to good people, but, once again, how does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that, especially when there are countless financial assistance programs that do just that?
how do u feel about basic income
srs qeustion
[quote=smakers]
Once you start trying to make up for everyone's unfortunate life events, you may as well say that we're obligated to give every homeless person a handful of change because they were dealt a bad hand. Yes, it sucks that bad things happen to good people, but, once again, how does it become the responsibility of everyone else to monetarily make up for that, especially when there are countless financial assistance programs that do just that?[/quote]
how do u feel about basic income
srs qeustion
useof...If you live in a country where tipping is expected for certain things and you don't like it, you can always pick a reasonable percentage and never deviate from it regardless of how well you were treated. But if that percentage is way lower than normal (or you just never tip because you think it's stupid), you're effectively abusing the system to get a discount. The world's not going to come crashing down because of it, but it places you in roughly the same territory as people who park across two spaces, or don't return shopping carts to the little corrals, or don't refill the office printer paper when they use the last sheets.
No.
MasterKuni - I'm Scrooge because I don't want to personally financially support everyone who's homeless. OK.
mocha - You are probably right in saying many servers are attempting to better themselves. I am not 'shaming and degrading' anyone. I'm sorry if you got the impression that I look down on someone for their job. I don't. I used to do that job, and worse ones.
Reservoir_dog, Khaki - See my first post where I already referenced Reservoir Dogs! :p
AMC - I see your point, and it makes sense. You are effectively paying for the service by tipping. My stance is not that they should be treated with less respect--no server will ever experience me being hostile or treating them poorly even if they make a mistake. My stance is that I should not be expected to pay for their service, which is their job. I'm not paying a butcher to slice meat. I'm not paying a chef to cook the steak. Yet, I am expected to pay the server for bringing it to me and occasionally filling a glass. I will reiterate that despite finding it an annoying expectation, I do, in fact, tip.
I'd be OK with the tipping system if it wasn't abused by the people receiving the tips. If I have a server who provides great service, it does not bother me at all to leave them 15-20%. It really annoys me to have poor service and still be expected to leave 20%, and I generally refuse to do it.
eee - I really am not sure what you're asking me. Clarify?
[quote=useof]...If you live in a country where tipping is expected for certain things and you don't like it, you can always pick a reasonable percentage and never deviate from it regardless of how well you were treated. But if that percentage is way lower than normal (or you just never tip because you think it's stupid), you're effectively abusing the system to get a discount. The world's not going to come crashing down because of it, but it places you in roughly the same territory as people who park across two spaces, or don't return shopping carts to the little corrals, or don't refill the office printer paper when they use the last sheets.[/quote]
No.
[b]MasterKuni[/b] - I'm Scrooge because I don't want to personally financially support everyone who's homeless. OK.
[b]mocha[/b] - You are probably right in saying many servers are attempting to better themselves. I am not 'shaming and degrading' anyone. I'm sorry if you got the impression that I look down on someone for their job. I don't. I used to do that job, and worse ones.
[b]Reservoir_dog[/b], [b]Khaki[/b] - See my first post where I already referenced Reservoir Dogs! :p
[b]AMC[/b] - I see your point, and it makes sense. You are effectively paying for the service by tipping. My stance is not that they should be treated with less respect--no server will ever experience me being hostile or treating them poorly even if they make a mistake. My stance is that I should not be expected to pay for their service, [i] which is their job.[/i] I'm not paying a butcher to slice meat. I'm not paying a chef to cook the steak. Yet, I am expected to pay the server for bringing it to me and occasionally filling a glass. I will reiterate that despite finding it an annoying expectation, I do, in fact, tip.
I'd be OK with the tipping system if it wasn't abused by the people receiving the tips. If I have a server who provides great service, it does not bother me at all to leave them 15-20%. It really annoys me to have poor service and still be expected to leave 20%, and I generally refuse to do it.
[b]eee[/b] - I really am not sure what you're asking me. Clarify?
I've literally never dined with someone who's rude to waiters/waitresses. Is that really a common thing or just a occasional personality defect/urban legend gone wild?
I've literally never dined with someone who's rude to waiters/waitresses. Is that really a common thing or just a occasional personality defect/urban legend gone wild?
It was when I worked in that industry. I would imagine it still is quite common.
It was when I worked in that industry. I would imagine it still is quite common.
SnowyI've literally never dined with someone who's rude to waiters/waitresses. Is that really a common thing or just a occasional personality defect/urban legend gone wild?
I'm a waitress, and rude shit happens on the reg.
[quote=Snowy]I've literally never dined with someone who's rude to waiters/waitresses. Is that really a common thing or just a occasional personality defect/urban legend gone wild?[/quote]
I'm a waitress, and rude shit happens on the reg.
i get free pizza, perks of knowing the owner. y'all can have some ill hook you up
but yeah i always tip well, especially at pubs/bars. always bringing in different bottles for the owner/bartender, gotta hook people up and they'll do the same for you...good karma is what its all about
i get free pizza, perks of knowing the owner. y'all can have some ill hook you up
but yeah i always tip well, especially at pubs/bars. always bringing in different bottles for the owner/bartender, gotta hook people up and they'll do the same for you...good karma is what its all about
When I have to tip I try to figure 20% in my head and then round up to an even dollar. If im using a coupon or getting a discount I make sure to ALWAYS use the non-discounted price for the tip.
When I have to tip I try to figure 20% in my head and then round up to an even dollar. If im using a coupon or getting a discount I make sure to ALWAYS use the non-discounted price for the tip.
I try to help out anyway I can. I'm sure of them have pretty bad days and barely make it through the day. If you're in a position to put a couple more dollars in someone's pocket, go for it.
I try to help out anyway I can. I'm sure of them have pretty bad days and barely make it through the day. If you're in a position to put a couple more dollars in someone's pocket, go for it.
mthats funny because in the us workers make like 10k more on average than they do in the uk
Why do they need the tip then?
[quote=m]thats funny because in the us workers make like 10k more on average than they do in the uk[/quote]
Why do they need the tip then?
I went to the marmadukeGRYLLS school of tipping. I like to throw it around.
I went to the marmadukeGRYLLS school of tipping. I like to throw it around.
I used to work as a server at a fancy restaurant that did a lot of weird fondue dinners and wedding reception type gigs. These events are massive and the service is distributed over a group of servers, so by the end there's a big chunk of change left as the tip that should be distributed "fairly". At the end of a long night the last thing you want is to deal with the bullshit politics of money distribution. There's always passive aggressive pandering for a larger chunk of the tips by everyone. Servers always seem to think they did more work, bartenders never seem to get enough tips at these events (they really don't, either), and you always want to have something to give to the cooks. I've always liked the cooks at these jobs.
All the drama regarding tips in that setting could have been avoided by charging a 20% service charge on the total bill and allowing the employer to distribute the money. This alone would have made the job less stressful and servers more friendly to one another. I quit within 2 months even though the money was good.
I also tip because of societal convention and nothing more. It's awkward with delivery drivers since, depending on where you bought your food from, you may have to tip in cash and fish in your wallet for bills, which means drivers get a roll of the dice as to what sort of bills are in my wallet. I'd say most get around $5 on avg.
I used to work as a server at a fancy restaurant that did a lot of weird fondue dinners and wedding reception type gigs. These events are massive and the service is distributed over a group of servers, so by the end there's a big chunk of change left as the tip that should be distributed "fairly". At the end of a long night the last thing you want is to deal with the bullshit politics of money distribution. There's always passive aggressive pandering for a larger chunk of the tips by everyone. Servers always seem to think they did more work, bartenders never seem to get enough tips at these events (they really don't, either), and you always want to have something to give to the cooks. I've always liked the cooks at these jobs.
All the drama regarding tips in that setting could have been avoided by charging a 20% service charge on the total bill and allowing the employer to distribute the money. This alone would have made the job less stressful and servers more friendly to one another. I quit within 2 months even though the money was good.
I also tip because of societal convention and nothing more. It's awkward with delivery drivers since, depending on where you bought your food from, you may have to tip in cash and fish in your wallet for bills, which means drivers get a roll of the dice as to what sort of bills are in my wallet. I'd say most get around $5 on avg.
I understand that delivery fees don't go to the driver and that the driver is not reimbursed by the employer for burning gas and maintaining his/her own vehicle.
That's part of the reason i don't mind leaving a nice tip. I guess this is because i was dirt poor at one point in my life, and i saw how my roommate struggled from being a delivery man.
All the drama regarding tips in that setting could have been avoided by charging a 20% service charge on the total bill and allowing the employer to distribute the money
I took my family to Disney for my son's birthday in the fall, and did one of those character breakfast events. It was $100 for 3 people (ugh), and on top of that they add an automatic 18% gratuity fee to the check...so $100 turned into $118 before i even thought about leaving at tip. Even then i have no idea what the actual employee gets. I've noticed several restaurants even around where i live have started doing that. I'd much rather just leave a nice tip then being forced to add something on when you don't know if the company is screwing their crew. That is a great idea though, IF the employer is actually dividing it up.
[quote]I understand that delivery fees don't go to the driver and that the driver is not reimbursed by the employer for burning gas and maintaining his/her own vehicle.[/quote]
That's part of the reason i don't mind leaving a nice tip. I guess this is because i was dirt poor at one point in my life, and i saw how my roommate struggled from being a delivery man.
[quote]All the drama regarding tips in that setting could have been avoided by charging a 20% service charge on the total bill and allowing the employer to distribute the money[/quote]
I took my family to Disney for my son's birthday in the fall, and did one of those character breakfast events. It was $100 for 3 people (ugh), and on top of that they add an automatic 18% gratuity fee to the check...so $100 turned into $118 before i even thought about leaving at tip. Even then i have no idea what the actual employee gets. I've noticed several restaurants even around where i live have started doing that. I'd much rather just leave a nice tip then being forced to add something on when you don't know if the company is screwing their crew. That is a great idea though, IF the employer is actually dividing it up.
I'm pretty sure when places charge an 18% gratuity that replaces tipping unless you feel they deserve more than 18%.
I've always just assumed that it's divided the same as any tip I leave would be
I'm pretty sure when places charge an 18% gratuity that replaces tipping unless you feel they deserve more than 18%.
I've always just assumed that it's divided the same as any tip I leave would be
m4risaMuertelol just bought 25 quid worth of stuff from Papa Johns
Ain't tipping shit. I'm broke.
bought 25 quid worth of stuff from Papa Johns
I'm broke
ok
I spent my last 25 quid on the order...
#priorities
[quote=m4risa][quote=Muerte]lol just bought 25 quid worth of stuff from Papa Johns
Ain't tipping shit. I'm broke.[/quote]
[quote]bought 25 quid worth of stuff from Papa Johns[/quote]
[quote]I'm broke[/quote]
ok[/quote]
I spent my last 25 quid on the order...
#priorities
I tip as much as i can with the money i can spare, which isn't much, but it's usually 3-5 euros
I tip as much as i can with the money i can spare, which isn't much, but it's usually 3-5 euros