EnzoDBits insane how people call out horrible bait in this thread and then immediately fall for the same bait they're calling out
ya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her real name defending racism
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[quote=EnzoDB]its insane how people call out horrible bait in this thread and then immediately fall for the same bait they're calling out[/quote]
ya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her real name defending racism
ya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her real name defending racism
rlly fucking upsetting to see froyo pick someone like him up tbh. wish people like this would just never come back to this community
rlly fucking upsetting to see froyo pick someone like him up tbh. wish people like this would just never come back to this community
arcadiaya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her real name defending racism
>defending racism
the dude just said a spooky word beginning with N to some white people on the internet
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ya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her real name defending racism[/quote]
>defending racism
the dude just said a spooky word beginning with N to some white people on the internet
ya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her real name defending racism[/quote]
>defending racism
the dude just said a spooky word beginning with N to some white people on the internet
arcadiaya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her real name defending racism
That's the absolute insane part to me; if for some god-forsaken reason I wanted to stan a pedo-adjacent individual who very recently went on an n-word laced tirade on a public website (with a dash of transphobia, most of which was targeted at a specific individual) I would not my real name attached especially if i have a job or was in school or some shit...
but i have 1.5 nerd stars so what do i know
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ya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her r[b]eal name[/b][i][/i] defending racism[/quote]
That's the absolute insane part to me; if for some god-forsaken reason I wanted to stan a pedo-adjacent individual who very recently went on an n-word laced tirade on a public website (with a dash of transphobia, most of which was targeted at a specific individual) I would not my real name attached especially if i have a job or was in school or some shit...
but i have 1.5 nerd stars so what do i know
ya but this isnt 4chan, this is a small community forum where she posts under her r[b]eal name[/b][i][/i] defending racism[/quote]
That's the absolute insane part to me; if for some god-forsaken reason I wanted to stan a pedo-adjacent individual who very recently went on an n-word laced tirade on a public website (with a dash of transphobia, most of which was targeted at a specific individual) I would not my real name attached especially if i have a job or was in school or some shit...
but i have 1.5 nerd stars so what do i know
ElenaManetta
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springrollsThat's the absolute insane part to me; if for some god-forsaken reason I wanted to stan a pedo-adjacent individual who very recently went on an n-word laced tirade on a public website (with a dash of transphobia, most of which was targeted at a specific individual) I would not my real name attached especially if i have a job or was in school or some shit...
somehow i don't think my boss is going to care if dafartknocker69 from TFTV e-mailed them a link of this thread and RGL match comms.
[quote=springrolls]That's the absolute insane part to me; if for some god-forsaken reason I wanted to stan a pedo-adjacent individual who very recently went on an n-word laced tirade on a public website (with a dash of transphobia, most of which was targeted at a specific individual) I would not my real name attached especially if i have a job or was in school or some shit...[/quote]
somehow i don't think my boss is going to care if dafartknocker69 from TFTV e-mailed them a link of this thread and RGL match comms.
somehow i don't think my boss is going to care if dafartknocker69 from TFTV e-mailed them a link of this thread and RGL match comms.
ElenaManettaspringrollsThat's the absolute insane part to me; if for some god-forsaken reason I wanted to stan a pedo-adjacent individual who very recently went on an n-word laced tirade on a public website (with a dash of transphobia, most of which was targeted at a specific individual) I would not my real name attached especially if i have a job or was in school or some shit...somehow i don't think my boss is going to care if dafartknocker69 from TFTV e-mailed them a link of this thread and RGL match comms.
u say u dont care about the community and what people say or think but yet you donated to the prize pool for the PA lan and won a mouse pad give away with all of our signatures and If im not mistaken ur also sponsoring an invite team?? pipe down please.
[quote=ElenaManetta][quote=springrolls]That's the absolute insane part to me; if for some god-forsaken reason I wanted to stan a pedo-adjacent individual who very recently went on an n-word laced tirade on a public website (with a dash of transphobia, most of which was targeted at a specific individual) I would not my real name attached especially if i have a job or was in school or some shit...[/quote]
somehow i don't think my boss is going to care if dafartknocker69 from TFTV e-mailed them a link of this thread and RGL match comms.[/quote]
u say u dont care about the community and what people say or think but yet you donated to the prize pool for the PA lan and won a mouse pad give away with all of our signatures and If im not mistaken ur also sponsoring an invite team?? pipe down please.
somehow i don't think my boss is going to care if dafartknocker69 from TFTV e-mailed them a link of this thread and RGL match comms.[/quote]
u say u dont care about the community and what people say or think but yet you donated to the prize pool for the PA lan and won a mouse pad give away with all of our signatures and If im not mistaken ur also sponsoring an invite team?? pipe down please.
sandblastu say u dont care about the community
point out where i said this.
it's possible to not care about posts on a message board that still uses an upvote system and care about LANs and donating to prize pools, even if you think it's not.
[quote=sandblast]u say u dont care about the community[/quote]
point out where i said this.
it's possible to not care about posts on a message board that still uses an upvote system and care about LANs and donating to prize pools, even if you think it's not.
point out where i said this.
it's possible to not care about posts on a message board that still uses an upvote system and care about LANs and donating to prize pools, even if you think it's not.
ElenaManettasandblastu say u dont care about the communitypoint out where i said this.
it's possible to not care about posts on a message board that still uses an upvote system and care about LANs and donating to prize pools, even if you think it's not.
the way you talked thru out this thread just makes me think ur actually stupid and kinda makes it seem you dont care about the community based on what u say. my b for assuming but ill stick to my "you dont care about the community" opinion.
[quote=ElenaManetta][quote=sandblast]u say u dont care about the community[/quote]
point out where i said this.
it's possible to not care about posts on a message board that still uses an upvote system and care about LANs and donating to prize pools, even if you think it's not.[/quote]
the way you talked thru out this thread just makes me think ur actually stupid and kinda makes it seem you dont care about the community based on what u say. my b for assuming but ill stick to my "you dont care about the community" opinion.
point out where i said this.
it's possible to not care about posts on a message board that still uses an upvote system and care about LANs and donating to prize pools, even if you think it's not.[/quote]
the way you talked thru out this thread just makes me think ur actually stupid and kinda makes it seem you dont care about the community based on what u say. my b for assuming but ill stick to my "you dont care about the community" opinion.
ElenaManettacare about LANs and donating to prize pools
if you do care about the health of the community then you should be interested in rooting out the elements that make it unwelcoming and unsafe like transphobia, racism, pedophilia, etc.
so how can you claim this when defending hubida who checks multiple boxes here
[quote=ElenaManetta]care about LANs and donating to prize pools[/quote]
if you do care about the health of the community then you should be interested in rooting out the elements that make it unwelcoming and unsafe like transphobia, racism, pedophilia, etc.
so how can you claim this when defending hubida who checks multiple boxes here
if you do care about the health of the community then you should be interested in rooting out the elements that make it unwelcoming and unsafe like transphobia, racism, pedophilia, etc.
so how can you claim this when defending hubida who checks multiple boxes here
Wild_Rumpusif you do care about the health of the community then you should be interested in rooting out the elements that make it unwelcoming and unsafe like transphobia, racism, pedophilia, etc.
believing in "no forgiveness" and perma-banning anyone you dislike is how you kill communities and create circlejerks. there are a crazy number of TF2 players who have been redeemed and welcomed back despite their language or past toxicity, quite a few of them in this very thread.
[quote=Wild_Rumpus]if you do care about the health of the community then you should be interested in rooting out the elements that make it unwelcoming and unsafe like transphobia, racism, pedophilia, etc.[/quote]
believing in "no forgiveness" and perma-banning anyone you dislike is how you kill communities and create circlejerks. there are a crazy number of TF2 players who have been redeemed and welcomed back despite their language or past toxicity, quite a few of them in this very thread.
believing in "no forgiveness" and perma-banning anyone you dislike is how you kill communities and create circlejerks. there are a crazy number of TF2 players who have been redeemed and welcomed back despite their language or past toxicity, quite a few of them in this very thread.
ElenaManettaWild_Rumpusif you do care about the health of the community then you should be interested in rooting out the elements that make it unwelcoming and unsafe like transphobia, racism, pedophilia, etc.believing in "no forgiveness" and perma-banning anyone you dislike is how you kill communities and create circlejerks. there are a crazy number of TF2 players who have been redeemed and welcomed back despite their language or past toxicity, quite a few of them in this very thread.
Many of those cases are from a very long time ago (multiple years), and are cases where people did it when they were very young and impressionable. Hub was saying this stuff less than a year ago.
I also usually lead towards forgiving people who have shown to make an actual change, and giving them a second chance. However, I don't think someone who posted an essay length racist and transphobic tirade on the RGL match page less than a year ago while also actively getting demo reviewed by an outed pedophile in the community is someone who's moral status has made much change.
[quote=ElenaManetta][quote=Wild_Rumpus]if you do care about the health of the community then you should be interested in rooting out the elements that make it unwelcoming and unsafe like transphobia, racism, pedophilia, etc.[/quote]
believing in "no forgiveness" and perma-banning anyone you dislike is how you kill communities and create circlejerks. there are a crazy number of TF2 players who have been redeemed and welcomed back despite their language or past toxicity, quite a few of them in this very thread.[/quote]
Many of those cases are from a very long time ago (multiple years), and are cases where people did it when they were very young and impressionable. Hub was saying this stuff less than a year ago.
I also usually lead towards forgiving people who have shown to make an actual change, and giving them a second chance. However, I don't think someone who posted an essay length racist and transphobic tirade on the RGL match page less than a year ago while also actively getting demo reviewed by an outed pedophile in the community is someone who's moral status has made much change.
believing in "no forgiveness" and perma-banning anyone you dislike is how you kill communities and create circlejerks. there are a crazy number of TF2 players who have been redeemed and welcomed back despite their language or past toxicity, quite a few of them in this very thread.[/quote]
Many of those cases are from a very long time ago (multiple years), and are cases where people did it when they were very young and impressionable. Hub was saying this stuff less than a year ago.
I also usually lead towards forgiving people who have shown to make an actual change, and giving them a second chance. However, I don't think someone who posted an essay length racist and transphobic tirade on the RGL match page less than a year ago while also actively getting demo reviewed by an outed pedophile in the community is someone who's moral status has made much change.
Hubida I'm gonna keep this short and sweet so I hope you can listen to a little tough love. You're weak, you're out of control and you've become an embarrassment to yourself and everybody else.
Hubida I'm gonna keep this short and sweet so I hope you can listen to a little tough love. You're weak, you're out of control and you've become an embarrassment to yourself and everybody else.
Elena I know you’re new to this website but sometimes it’s best to stop posting <3
Elena I know you’re new to this website but sometimes it’s best to stop posting <3
ReeroI also usually lead towards forgiving people who have shown to make an actual change, and giving them a second chance.
you might not think so, but obviously some heads in charge of ban appeals thought so considering they lifted a permaban-- something that isn't all that easy to convince RGL admins to do to begin with.
at a point you have to accept that not all the behind-the-scenes details are being told to you, and you'll probably never get them. the number one story here being told is "rgl match comms", because almost no one here interacts with hubida since he's kept to himself for a year and it's the only story people have right now. so the idea that he should be booted out via mob vote over an admin vote because he's a "danger" to a community he doesn't interact with is literal fearmongering.
[quote=Reero]I also usually lead towards forgiving people who have shown to make an actual change, and giving them a second chance.[/quote]
you might not think so, but obviously some heads in charge of ban appeals thought so considering they lifted a permaban-- something that isn't all that easy to convince RGL admins to do to begin with.
at a point you have to accept that not all the behind-the-scenes details are being told to you, and you'll probably never get them. the number one story here being told is "rgl match comms", because almost no one here interacts with hubida since he's kept to himself for a year and it's the only story people have right now. so the idea that he should be booted out via mob vote over an admin vote because he's a "danger" to a community he doesn't interact with is literal fearmongering.
you might not think so, but obviously some heads in charge of ban appeals thought so considering they lifted a permaban-- something that isn't all that easy to convince RGL admins to do to begin with.
at a point you have to accept that not all the behind-the-scenes details are being told to you, and you'll probably never get them. the number one story here being told is "rgl match comms", because almost no one here interacts with hubida since he's kept to himself for a year and it's the only story people have right now. so the idea that he should be booted out via mob vote over an admin vote because he's a "danger" to a community he doesn't interact with is literal fearmongering.
ElenaManettaim a moron everyone
the redeemed players who are active in RGL: used to be impressionable teenagers, used slurs as shock factor (still not acceptable but they have genuinely reformed)
hubida: literally a racist. has harassed trans people in the past. no proof he has changed his ways
also its useful to note that while hubida has not interacted with the wider community, both he and cin actively played on a team with derp sandwich (transphobe and probable cheater) and catface (dont need to explain why they're weird) as well as being friends with them outside of the team
[quote=ElenaManetta]im a moron everyone[/quote]
the redeemed players who are active in RGL: used to be impressionable teenagers, used slurs as shock factor (still not acceptable but they have genuinely reformed)
hubida: literally a racist. has harassed trans people in the past. no proof he has changed his ways
also its useful to note that while hubida has not interacted with the wider community, both he and cin actively played on a team with derp sandwich (transphobe and probable cheater) and catface (dont need to explain why they're weird) as well as being friends with them outside of the team
the redeemed players who are active in RGL: used to be impressionable teenagers, used slurs as shock factor (still not acceptable but they have genuinely reformed)
hubida: literally a racist. has harassed trans people in the past. no proof he has changed his ways
also its useful to note that while hubida has not interacted with the wider community, both he and cin actively played on a team with derp sandwich (transphobe and probable cheater) and catface (dont need to explain why they're weird) as well as being friends with them outside of the team
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ElenaManettayou might not think so, but obviously some heads in charge of ban appeals thought so considering they lifted a permaban-- something that isn't all that easy to convince RGL admins to do to begin with.
at a point you have to accept that not all the behind-the-scenes details are being told to you, and you'll probably never get them. the number one story here being told is "rgl match comms", because almost no one here interacts with hubida since he's kept to himself for a year and it's the only story people have right now. so the idea that he should be booted out via mob vote over an admin vote because he's a "danger" to a community he doesn't interact with is literal fearmongering.
As someone who also said slurs like that in 2015, a year is not enough to unlearn it. I wasn't nearly as vitriolic about it as Hubida in those logs, and it still took me multiple years. It's not enough to stop saying slurs to save face or fit in. You have to actually unlearn everything that took you down that path to begin with, and change as a person. I don't know the dude personally, so I can only hope that you're correct about him starting that journey to self betterment. But it's simply unacceptable to say that he's put in the time and should be a prominent figure in the community. The way you're brushing people off and being a smartass when we're trying to hold someone accountable for hate speech directed at marginalized people is really disgusting and disappointing.
[quote=ElenaManetta]you might not think so, but obviously some heads in charge of ban appeals thought so considering they lifted a permaban-- something that isn't all that easy to convince RGL admins to do to begin with.
at a point you have to accept that not all the behind-the-scenes details are being told to you, and you'll probably never get them. the number one story here being told is "rgl match comms", because almost no one here interacts with hubida since he's kept to himself for a year and it's the only story people have right now. so the idea that he should be booted out via mob vote over an admin vote because he's a "danger" to a community he doesn't interact with is literal fearmongering.[/quote]
As someone who also said slurs like that in 2015, a year is not enough to unlearn it. I wasn't nearly as vitriolic about it as Hubida in those logs, and it still took me multiple years. It's not enough to stop saying slurs to save face or fit in. You have to actually unlearn everything that took you down that path to begin with, and change as a person. I don't know the dude personally, so I can only hope that you're correct about him starting that journey to self betterment. But it's simply unacceptable to say that he's put in the time and should be a prominent figure in the community. The way you're brushing people off and being a smartass when we're trying to hold someone accountable for hate speech directed at marginalized people is really disgusting and disappointing.
at a point you have to accept that not all the behind-the-scenes details are being told to you, and you'll probably never get them. the number one story here being told is "rgl match comms", because almost no one here interacts with hubida since he's kept to himself for a year and it's the only story people have right now. so the idea that he should be booted out via mob vote over an admin vote because he's a "danger" to a community he doesn't interact with is literal fearmongering.[/quote]
As someone who also said slurs like that in 2015, a year is not enough to unlearn it. I wasn't nearly as vitriolic about it as Hubida in those logs, and it still took me multiple years. It's not enough to stop saying slurs to save face or fit in. You have to actually unlearn everything that took you down that path to begin with, and change as a person. I don't know the dude personally, so I can only hope that you're correct about him starting that journey to self betterment. But it's simply unacceptable to say that he's put in the time and should be a prominent figure in the community. The way you're brushing people off and being a smartass when we're trying to hold someone accountable for hate speech directed at marginalized people is really disgusting and disappointing.
RendoasThe way you're brushing people off and being a smartass when we're trying to hold someone accountable for hate speech directed at marginalized people is really disgusting and disappointing.
we are looking at very different threads if you think this thread is me vs. a group of people trying to have a real discussion. at most, it's three people with everyone else being just as smartass-y, memeing, or shitposting.
[quote=Rendoas]The way you're brushing people off and being a smartass when we're trying to hold someone accountable for hate speech directed at marginalized people is really disgusting and disappointing.[/quote]
we are looking at very different threads if you think this thread is me vs. a group of people trying to have a real discussion. at most, it's three people with everyone else being just as smartass-y, memeing, or shitposting.
we are looking at very different threads if you think this thread is me vs. a group of people trying to have a real discussion. at most, it's three people with everyone else being just as smartass-y, memeing, or shitposting.
just lock the thread at this point there's not even bait on the hook it's just the hook and y'all keep falling for it
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just lock the thread at this point there's not even bait on the hook it's just the hook and y'all keep falling for it
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ElenaManetta
ignoring the fact that theres no reason to believe hubida is reformed, its actually really counterproductive to people who have actually changed for the better and corrected past mistakes when you dont actually offer any distinction between them and the people who dont care at all and just say what they need to to keep playing the game
[quote=ElenaManetta][/quote]
ignoring the fact that theres no reason to believe hubida is reformed, its actually really counterproductive to people who have actually changed for the better and corrected past mistakes when you dont actually offer any distinction between them and the people who dont care at all and just say what they need to to keep playing the game
ignoring the fact that theres no reason to believe hubida is reformed, its actually really counterproductive to people who have actually changed for the better and corrected past mistakes when you dont actually offer any distinction between them and the people who dont care at all and just say what they need to to keep playing the game
ElenaManettaRendoasThe way you're brushing people off and being a smartass when we're trying to hold someone accountable for hate speech directed at marginalized people is really disgusting and disappointing.we are looking at very different threads if you think this thread is me vs. a group of people trying to have a real discussion. at most, it's three people with everyone else being just as smartass-y, memeing, or shitposting.
You've dug yourself a deep enough hole. Please save us all the pain and stop posting.
[quote=ElenaManetta][quote=Rendoas]The way you're brushing people off and being a smartass when we're trying to hold someone accountable for hate speech directed at marginalized people is really disgusting and disappointing.[/quote]
we are looking at very different threads if you think this thread is me vs. a group of people trying to have a real discussion. at most, it's three people with everyone else being just as smartass-y, memeing, or shitposting.[/quote]
You've dug yourself a deep enough hole. Please save us all the pain and stop posting.
we are looking at very different threads if you think this thread is me vs. a group of people trying to have a real discussion. at most, it's three people with everyone else being just as smartass-y, memeing, or shitposting.[/quote]
You've dug yourself a deep enough hole. Please save us all the pain and stop posting.
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