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I49 VTV Constructive Criticism
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#31
12 Frags +

I don't know if this is a vtv decision or a multiplay decision but I really dislike that there's no stvs, if you want to watch one of the other matches that isn't on stream you're kinda screwed

I don't know if this is a vtv decision or a multiplay decision but I really dislike that there's no stvs, if you want to watch one of the other matches that isn't on stream you're kinda screwed
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#32
7 Frags +

Alerts were cringeworthy as fuck. At least use them to alert the viewers of something important instead of saying something stupid.

Alerts were cringeworthy as fuck. At least use them to alert the viewers of something important instead of saying something stupid.
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#33
0 Frags +
nerkulByte refers to both teams as 'they', which would confuse new viewers.

I agree, while the casting was great, I was listening to a lot of the matches while biking without the video. A lot of the mids got confusing and many times it took a few point caps to figure out the situation due to many, "they"s.

Other than that I have to say it was really great casting and I greatly enjoyed being able to follow the action while on the go.

[quote=nerkul]Byte refers to both teams as 'they', which would confuse new viewers.[/quote]

I agree, while the casting was great, I was listening to a lot of the matches while biking without the video. A lot of the mids got confusing and many times it took a few point caps to figure out the situation due to many, "they"s.

Other than that I have to say it was really great casting and I greatly enjoyed being able to follow the action while on the go.
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#34
-9 Frags +
2sy_morphiendexcellent observation hookyRuwinhookyIn fact, it appears to be some sort of European socket.
thanks for pointing that out, hooky. :)

sorry I'm more cancer than twitch chat

[quote=2sy_morphiend]excellent observation hooky[/quote]

[quote=Ruwin][quote=hooky]In fact, it appears to be some sort of European socket.[/quote]

thanks for pointing that out, hooky. :)[/quote]

sorry I'm more cancer than twitch chat
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#35
1 Frags +

don't feel like it warrants a new thread, but:

is there a spoiler free way to get the forthcoming VOD of epsilon vs. hrg? i'm sure a lot of the NA scene won't be able to see it, as the game plays around 5AM EST (from what i've been told/seen from brackets).

don't feel like it warrants a new thread, but:

is there a spoiler free way to get the forthcoming VOD of epsilon vs. hrg? i'm sure a lot of the NA scene won't be able to see it, as the game plays around 5AM EST (from what i've been told/seen from brackets).
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#36
-1 Frags +

i didnt like the double camera that was used at times, just my opinion

i didnt like the double camera that was used at times, just my opinion
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#37
1 Frags +

Double camera was good for rollouts and spyper plays, but could've been used less. There was something else I was going to say, but I forget now so it must not have been that important. Overall a very enjoyable cast.

Edit: oh yeah, I remembered. The alerts are a good idea. I would like to see them used to announce scores of games that are not being casted and whatnot, but it didn't really bother me when they were used for stupid things.

Double camera was good for rollouts and spyper plays, but could've been used less. There was something else I was going to say, but I forget now so it must not have been that important. Overall a very enjoyable cast.

Edit: oh yeah, I remembered. The alerts are a good idea. I would like to see them used to announce scores of games that are not being casted and whatnot, but it didn't really bother me when they were used for stupid things.
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#38
-4 Frags +

Okay, here's some comments, based on part of the Day 1 rebroadcast:

It's very well put together. Lange did an amazing job running the stream, as usual.

Casting is great also. I didn't expect anything less than that. :D

Only issue I've noticed is that there's occasionally some feedback on the mics, but that may have been fixed/can't be fixed.

Edit: Turin reminded me to add that might not be able to be fixed.

Okay, here's some comments, based on part of the Day 1 rebroadcast:

It's very well put together. Lange did an amazing job running the stream, as usual.

Casting is great also. I didn't expect anything less than that. :D

Only issue I've noticed is that there's occasionally some feedback on the mics, but that may have been fixed/can't be fixed.

Edit: Turin reminded me to add that might not be able to be fixed.
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#39
2 Frags +
JasAlerts need to be used to announce results of uncasted matches, not to just randomly say Hi.

^This

And it could be used to announce next matches that will be casted/how long till next match (like you guys did at the Epsilon vs TCM match. Keep doing that, it works wonders)

Also, at the iM vs HRG match Sal and Byte's mic seem to be catching the sound of the audio system at lan or something, there was this weird echo randomly happen from time to time (it's a nitpick i know, hope you guys sorted it out after that happening).

Otherwise, this is WAY better than last year that you had all sorts of issues (most of them were multiplay's fault), keep it up! See you tomorrow guys

[quote=Jas]Alerts need to be used to announce results of uncasted matches, not to just randomly say Hi.[/quote]

^This

And it could be used to announce next matches that will be casted/how long till next match (like you guys did at the Epsilon vs TCM match. Keep doing that, it works wonders)

Also, at the iM vs HRG match Sal and Byte's mic seem to be catching the sound of the audio system at lan or something, there was this weird echo randomly happen from time to time (it's a nitpick i know, hope you guys sorted it out after that happening).

Otherwise, this is WAY better than last year that you had all sorts of issues (most of them were multiplay's fault), keep it up! See you tomorrow guys
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#40
0 Frags +
hookyOkay, here's some comments, based on part of the Day 1 rebroadcast:

It's very well put together. Lange did an amazing job running the stream, as usual.

Casting is great also. I didn't expect anything less than that. :D

Only issue I've noticed is that there's occasionally some feedback on the mics, but that may have been fixed.

Feedback can sometimes be unavoidable in a venue that big.

[quote=hooky]Okay, here's some comments, based on part of the Day 1 rebroadcast:

It's very well put together. Lange did an amazing job running the stream, as usual.

Casting is great also. I didn't expect anything less than that. :D

Only issue I've noticed is that there's occasionally some feedback on the mics, but that may have been fixed.[/quote]

Feedback can sometimes be unavoidable in a venue that big.
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#41
-3 Frags +
TurinhookyOkay, here's some comments, based on part of the Day 1 rebroadcast:

It's very well put together. Lange did an amazing job running the stream, as usual.

Casting is great also. I didn't expect anything less than that. :D

Only issue I've noticed is that there's occasionally some feedback on the mics, but that may have been fixed.

Feedback can sometimes be unavoidable in a venue that big.

I do realize that. I was going to mention that I think it might not be able to be fixed, but I must have forgot. Good thing the stream died so I can get a 4 hour nap in.

[quote=Turin][quote=hooky]Okay, here's some comments, based on part of the Day 1 rebroadcast:

It's very well put together. Lange did an amazing job running the stream, as usual.

Casting is great also. I didn't expect anything less than that. :D

Only issue I've noticed is that there's occasionally some feedback on the mics, but that may have been fixed.[/quote]

Feedback can sometimes be unavoidable in a venue that big.[/quote]
I do realize that. I was going to mention that I think it might not be able to be fixed, but I must have forgot. Good thing the stream died so I can get a 4 hour nap in.
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#42
-3 Frags +

I honestly think you could have picked some better music.

I honestly think you could have picked some better music.
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#43
1 Frags +
RoksI honestly think you could have picked some better music.

i'm gonna need a full rotation of filth by swans at all times

[quote=Roks]I honestly think you could have picked some better music.[/quote]

i'm gonna need a full rotation of filth by swans at all times
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#44
7 Frags +
RoksI honestly think you could have picked some better music.

Taste in music is really subjective, so what do you mean by "better"?

[quote=Roks]I honestly think you could have picked some better music.[/quote]
Taste in music is really subjective, so what do you mean by "better"?
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#45
1 Frags +

this one anoyed me a bit, if you interview somebody pls listen to what he says, and dont go talking to byte or somebody (like sal did with the yuki interview) and please, dont look like my creepy uncle staring in to the camera, look at eachother pls.

this one anoyed me a bit, if you interview somebody pls listen to what he says, and dont go talking to byte or somebody (like sal did with the yuki interview) and please, dont look like my creepy uncle staring in to the camera, look at eachother pls.
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#46
13 Frags +
RenhetRoksI honestly think you could have picked some better music.Taste in music is really subjective, so what do you mean by "better"?

http://www.melodysupreme.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/url-5.jpg

[quote=Renhet][quote=Roks]I honestly think you could have picked some better music.[/quote]
Taste in music is really subjective, so what do you mean by "better"?[/quote]

[img]http://www.melodysupreme.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/url-5.jpg[/img]
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#47
11 Frags +
decapOnly thing I noticed is that they kept calling sheep sheepy

If anyone wants to know why this made everyone in Australia cringe, sheepy is/was a convicted hacker. Sheep is the good one that plays on iM.

Also kind of annoyed me when he went by oiler in the first game and no one picked up on the fact that it was sheep. I was a bit surprised to see a player like him not tag up as well as using an alias during probably the highest profile matches iM have ever played. Not really the fault of VTV though.

[quote=decap]Only thing I noticed is that they kept calling sheep sheepy[/quote]

If anyone wants to know why this made everyone in Australia cringe, sheepy is/was a convicted hacker. Sheep is the good one that plays on iM.

Also kind of annoyed me when he went by oiler in the first game and no one picked up on the fact that it was sheep. I was a bit surprised to see a player like him not tag up as well as using an alias during probably the highest profile matches iM have ever played. Not really the fault of VTV though.
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#48
-11 Frags +
RuwinRussianGuyovich, your rampant anti-american slander is getting a little long in the tooth.

I see it in Twitch Chat, ETF2L Forums and now here.

What is the REAL problem? Let's talk it out.

Where on ETF2L?

I'm just fuckin' wit cha. It's so over the top that you cannot possibly be offended :P

[quote=Ruwin]RussianGuyovich, your rampant anti-american slander is getting a little long in the tooth.

I see it in Twitch Chat, ETF2L Forums and now here.

What is the [i]REAL[/i] problem? Let's talk it out.[/quote]

Where on ETF2L?

I'm just fuckin' wit cha. It's so over the top that you cannot possibly be offended :P
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#49
2 Frags +

I thought it might be nice if there could be a "Name & Team name" + Maybe their current standing posted on the screen when doing an interview with a player.

I thought it might be nice if there could be a "Name & Team name" + Maybe their current standing posted on the screen when doing an interview with a player.
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#50
3 Frags +
conductorI don't know if this is a vtv decision or a multiplay decision but I really dislike that there's no stvs, if you want to watch one of the other matches that isn't on stream you're kinda screwed

All on Multiplay afaik, either intentional or an error they haven't fixed. confirmed error

And the minor problems are to be expected when casting from LAN. I can assure you all that everyone here is working hard to fix anything that goes wrong, and to put on the best iseries coverage to date.

And as I say that, brb gonna go tinker with Lange

[quote=conductor]I don't know if this is a vtv decision or a multiplay decision but I really dislike that there's no stvs, if you want to watch one of the other matches that isn't on stream you're kinda screwed[/quote]
All on Multiplay afaik, [s]either intentional or an error they haven't fixed.[/s] confirmed error

And the minor problems are to be expected when casting from LAN. I can assure you all that everyone here is working hard to fix anything that goes wrong, and to put on the best iseries coverage to date.

And as I say that, brb gonna go tinker with Lange
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#51
1 Frags +

If you're going to do the splitscreen thing at mid, put one cam in the sky looking down on the mid and one watching povs.

If you're going to do the splitscreen thing at mid, put one cam in the sky looking down on the mid and one watching povs.
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#52
1 Frags +
AndKennethdecapOnly thing I noticed is that they kept calling sheep sheepy
If anyone wants to know why this made everyone in Australia cringe, sheepy is/was a convicted hacker. Sheep is the good one that plays on iM.

They are used to reading about the Euro Sheepy (upcoming talent of the season in ETF2L), nothing to do with your hacking aussie.

Although I reckon the Euro sheepy is the hacking aussies, the LAN dodging fuck.

[quote=AndKenneth][quote=decap]Only thing I noticed is that they kept calling sheep sheepy[/quote]

If anyone wants to know why this made everyone in Australia cringe, sheepy is/was a convicted hacker. Sheep is the good one that plays on iM.

[/quote]

They are used to reading about the Euro Sheepy (upcoming talent of the season in ETF2L), nothing to do with your hacking aussie.

Although I reckon the Euro sheepy is the hacking aussies, the LAN dodging fuck.
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#53
-1 Frags +

Next year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community. Apparently it's 2-2 Epsi vs Infused right now, but we'll just have to imagine it...

Next year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community. Apparently it's 2-2 Epsi vs Infused right now, but we'll just have to imagine it...
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#54
10 Frags +
nerkulNext year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.

Do you have a source for this?

edit:

10:05 <atmo> what's up with STVs? people on TFTV are accusing vanillatv of not making them publicly available
10:07 <TapleyI49> haha
10:08 <TapleyI49> stv's relays are not working at the moment, we've been trying to fix them
10:08 <TapleyI49> should have it sorted in a bit hopefully

can we stop with the baseless accusations now please?

[quote=nerkul]Next year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.[/quote]
Do you have a source for this?

edit:

[code]10:05 <atmo> what's up with STVs? people on TFTV are accusing vanillatv of not making them publicly available
10:07 <TapleyI49> haha
10:08 <TapleyI49> stv's relays are not working at the moment, we've been trying to fix them
10:08 <TapleyI49> should have it sorted in a bit hopefully
[/code]

can we stop with the baseless accusations now please?
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#55
1 Frags +
RuwinRussianGuyovich, your rampant anti-american slander is getting a little long in the tooth.

I see it in Twitch Chat, ETF2L Forums and now here.

What is the REAL problem? Let's talk it out.

His mom had an american lover. CALLING IT!

[quote=Ruwin]RussianGuyovich, your rampant anti-american slander is getting a little long in the tooth.

I see it in Twitch Chat, ETF2L Forums and now here.

What is the [i]REAL[/i] problem? Let's talk it out.[/quote]
His mom had an american lover. CALLING IT!
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#56
3 Frags +
DunderBroHis mom had an american lover. CALLING IT!

This is true

[quote=DunderBro]
His mom had an american lover. CALLING IT![/quote]

This is true
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#57
-1 Frags +
atmonerkulNext year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.Do you have a source for this?

Ruwin said it, plus the fact that nobody is streaming except VTV. Plus, tf.tv not planning coverage suggests they already knew.

[quote=atmo][quote=nerkul]Next year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.[/quote]
Do you have a source for this?[/quote]

Ruwin said it, plus the fact that nobody is streaming except VTV. Plus, tf.tv not planning coverage suggests they already knew.
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#58
-1 Frags +

Outlines, outlines! Where is bluees plugin? dis v. iM was missing it completely, and not seeing it on the next game either.

Outlines, outlines! Where is bluees plugin? dis v. iM was missing it completely, and not seeing it on the next game either.
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#59
7 Frags +
nerkulatmonerkulNext year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.Do you have a source for this?
Ruwin said it, plus the fact that nobody is streaming except VTV. Plus, tf.tv not planning coverage suggests they already knew.

Ruwin is not at i49.

[quote=nerkul][quote=atmo][quote=nerkul]Next year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.[/quote]
Do you have a source for this?[/quote]

Ruwin said it, plus the fact that nobody is streaming except VTV. Plus, tf.tv not planning coverage suggests they already knew.[/quote]
Ruwin is not at i49.
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#60
serveme.tf
6 Frags +
nerkulatmonerkulNext year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.Do you have a source for this?
Ruwin said it, plus the fact that nobody is streaming except VTV. Plus, tf.tv not planning coverage suggests they already knew.

When outside relays can connect to the STVs here we'll get them in. You'll be able to connect to a VanillaTV sponsored relay as with every european cast.

r4ptureOutlines, outlines! Where is bluees plugin? dis v. iM was missing it completely, and not seeing it on the next game either.

We have them? The medic uber-advantage thing is broken atm, working with Bluee to try and fix it.

[quote=nerkul][quote=atmo][quote=nerkul]Next year, no org can get exclusive stv rights. Missing games is totally unacceptable. Y'all need to get over your egos and do what's best for the community.[/quote]
Do you have a source for this?[/quote]

Ruwin said it, plus the fact that nobody is streaming except VTV. Plus, tf.tv not planning coverage suggests they already knew.[/quote]


When outside relays can connect to the STVs here we'll get them in. You'll be able to connect to a VanillaTV sponsored relay as with every european cast.

[quote=r4pture]Outlines, outlines! Where is bluees plugin? dis v. iM was missing it completely, and not seeing it on the next game either.[/quote]

We have them? The medic uber-advantage thing is broken atm, working with Bluee to try and fix it.
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