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MAJOR TF2 update for 6/18/14 (6/19/14, Love & War)
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#241
4 Frags +

I don't care about stickies, this is the best thing ever to happen to tf2: http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/3300325709060260003/D90E1E78BF8EE1817B140D57B161EE4B624E0EA3/

I don't care about stickies, this is the best thing ever to happen to tf2: http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/3300325709060260003/D90E1E78BF8EE1817B140D57B161EE4B624E0EA3/
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#242
0 Frags +

This is a horrific change, anyone who is welcoming this is honestly retarded. This is like the quickfix bullshit all over again but this time you can't ban it.

This is a horrific change, anyone who is welcoming this is honestly retarded. This is like the quickfix bullshit all over again but this time you can't ban it.
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#243
14 Frags +

This has to be one of the worst fucking updates I have seen. Demoman doing 20 damage, what?

This has to be one of the worst fucking updates I have seen. Demoman doing 20 damage, what?
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#244
-11 Frags +

As a demo main who's played every other role this update sounds fun as hell. Game should be faster now

As a demo main who's played every other role this update sounds fun as hell. Game should be faster now
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#245
16 Frags +

Quickfix was good too btw

Quickfix was good too btw
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#246
-5 Frags +
CliveThis has to be one of the worst fucking updates I have seen. Demoman doing 20 damage, what?

shut up clive, go back to treating your nosebleed.

[quote=Clive]This has to be one of the worst fucking updates I have seen. Demoman doing 20 damage, what?[/quote]

shut up clive, go back to treating your nosebleed.
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#247
28 Frags +
AllealGame should be faster now

they said that about the quickfix as well iirc

[quote=Alleal]Game should be faster now[/quote]
they said that about the quickfix as well iirc
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#248
2 Frags +

oh shit i forgot EU pockets demos, LOL. get fucking dunked on.

i dont understand why people are losing their shit at the fact that spamming left click and right click is no longer heavily rewarded.

oh shit i forgot EU pockets demos, LOL. get fucking dunked on.

i dont understand why people are losing their shit at the fact that spamming left click and right click is no longer heavily rewarded.
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#249
21 Frags +
harbleujust tried a scrim with the new update. this is by far the greatest update in tf2. you can actually push against a demo now. this is so much fun, im looking forward to lan.

Shhh harbelu we are trying to circlejerk here.

[quote=harbleu]just tried a scrim with the new update. this is by far the greatest update in tf2. you can actually push against a demo now. this is so much fun, im looking forward to lan.[/quote]

Shhh harbelu we are trying to circlejerk here.
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#250
15 Frags +

On the bright side, the update gave me a significant fps boost so I can play the game with decent settings again :D

On the bright side, the update gave me a significant fps boost so I can play the game with decent settings again :D
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#251
0 Frags +

Well, at least the tip of the hats hat got added too.

Well, at least the tip of the hats hat got added too.
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#252
52 Frags +

holy shit open finals demos bottom damaging

holy shit open finals demos bottom damaging
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#253
32 Frags +

sick change, just played a doublemix on demo vs kaidus and now that sticky trap camping skill-fraud has been unmasked for what he is. glad valve finally got round to it

sick change, just played a doublemix on demo vs kaidus and now that sticky trap camping skill-fraud has been unmasked for what he is. glad valve finally got round to it
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#254
-3 Frags +

Have we actually tried playing a competitive game after the update pushed?

I feel like you guys are jumping the gun a bit, maybe it wont be THAT bad.

Maybe

ok nvm its bad

Have we actually tried playing a competitive game after the update pushed?

I feel like you guys are jumping the gun a bit, maybe it wont be THAT bad.

Maybe

ok nvm its bad
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#255
18 Frags +

I don't why they couldn't just make this a server command. People who want it on, have it on and people that don't, don't. (Normal people)

mp_fuckstickies_nodamage 1 / 0

Sorted.

I don't why they couldn't just make this a server command. People who want it on, have it on and people that don't, don't. (Normal people)

mp_fuckstickies_nodamage 1 / 0

Sorted.
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#256
28 Frags +

450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies

450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies
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#257
8 Frags +

Demos are now doing less damage per match than soldiers in invite scrims:

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232811
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232848

Demos are now doing less damage per match than soldiers in invite scrims:

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232811
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232848
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#258
6 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM-Vpcmgifo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM-Vpcmgifo
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#259
-15 Frags +
Sideshow450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies

heavy = slowest thing in game

just let the stickies sit for 2 seconds???

[quote=Sideshow]450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies[/quote]

heavy = slowest thing in game

just let the stickies sit for 2 seconds???
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#260
-1 Frags +
Sideshow450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies

damn yo demos actually HAVE to hit pipes now, nuts!

[quote=Sideshow]450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies[/quote]

damn yo demos actually HAVE to hit pipes now, nuts!
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#261
5 Frags +
narfholy shit open finals demos bottom damaging

this is largely because demos are not even really trying to spam anymore which is dumb they still should.

as for the invite scrims that seems about right for what the nerf actually did.

[quote=narf]holy shit open finals demos bottom damaging[/quote]

this is largely because demos are not even really trying to spam anymore which is dumb they still should.

as for the invite scrims that seems about right for what the nerf actually did.
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#262
22 Frags +

New cookie cutter to become 2 pockets and a roaming demo

New cookie cutter to become 2 pockets and a roaming demo
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#263
1 Frags +

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232838 I used the charge n targe in our scrim, it's honestly the way to go now.

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232838 I used the charge n targe in our scrim, it's honestly the way to go now.
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#264
9 Frags +
marmadukeGRYLLSSideshow450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies
damn yo demos actually HAVE to hit pipes now, nuts.

But they are wiping out stickies completely by saying that. Imagine if they nerfed the sniper rifle to not headshot at like 20 feet. "Oh well you will have to use SMG now, nuts." Doesn't make sense, people who have been playing for 7 years are now fucked over by this.

Understand the situation before you go and post shit fella.

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS][quote=Sideshow]450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies[/quote]

damn yo demos actually HAVE to hit pipes now, nuts.[/quote]

But they are wiping out stickies completely by saying that. Imagine if they nerfed the sniper rifle to not headshot at like 20 feet. "Oh well you will have to use SMG now, nuts." Doesn't make sense, people who have been playing for 7 years are now fucked over by this.

Understand the situation before you go and post shit fella.
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#265
-20 Frags +
ClivemarmadukeGRYLLSSideshow450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies
damn yo demos actually HAVE to hit pipes now, nuts.

But they are wiping out stickies completely by saying that. Imagine if they nerfed the sniper rifle to not headshot at like 20 feet. "Oh well you will have to use SMG now, nuts." Doesn't make sense, people who have been playing for 7 years are now fucked over by this.

Understand the situation before you go and post shit fella.

You can still sticky trap, understand the situation fella.

[quote=Clive][quote=marmadukeGRYLLS][quote=Sideshow]450 heavy being healed now cannot be killed by a demoman spamming stickies[/quote]

damn yo demos actually HAVE to hit pipes now, nuts.[/quote]

But they are wiping out stickies completely by saying that. Imagine if they nerfed the sniper rifle to not headshot at like 20 feet. "Oh well you will have to use SMG now, nuts." Doesn't make sense, people who have been playing for 7 years are now fucked over by this.

Understand the situation before you go and post shit fella.[/quote]

You can still sticky trap, understand the situation fella.
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#266
-9 Frags +
StarkAllealGame should be faster nowthey said that about the quickfix as well iirc

They were right. Heavies made it slow. And gullywash which is a shit map anyways. I'm so happy right now

[quote=Stark][quote=Alleal]Game should be faster now[/quote]
they said that about the quickfix as well iirc[/quote]
They were right. Heavies made it slow. And gullywash which is a shit map anyways. I'm so happy right now
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#267
19 Frags +

Whether you like it or not, pretty sure everyone's agreed that this is gonna break the 6v6 meta. What I don't understand is how they thought this would help pubs. It's actually just engineer fortress 2 out there now.

Whether you like it or not, pretty sure everyone's agreed that this is gonna break the 6v6 meta. What I don't understand is how they thought this would help pubs. It's actually just engineer fortress 2 out there now.
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#268
-9 Frags +

Literally the only thing this nerfs is mindless sticky spam, left click right click win game bullshit. After literally two seconds they're the exact same stickies they've always been.

Literally the only thing this nerfs is mindless sticky spam, left click right click win game bullshit. After literally two seconds they're the exact same stickies they've always been.
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#269
20 Frags +

wow its like you guys have never been through a game with a balance change before.

Its not making demoman underpowered, its just nerfing it in close quarters, while also buffing other classes indirectly.

Sticky spam in midfights will be less effective, and 2 sticking a scout in house or through a choke is not doable anymore. It buffs scouts through choke points and nerfs demomen with cocky positioning. If you can hit pipes and adjust yourself youll be fine.

This isn't the end of the world. It'll allow demomen to get to mid a little faster, while lowering their mid fight and choke damage output, meaning longer fights essentially with more pressure on the medic who now is taking less spam damage.

It changes the game in a ridiculously huge amount of ways, but pretty sure both teams still have a demoman. Adjust, or go back to crying on forums asking for convars to change it back and blaming it for your poor dm.

TLDR: the entire meta of midfights and rollouts is changed by something so miniscule, adjust.

wow its like you guys have never been through a game with a balance change before.

Its not making demoman underpowered, its just nerfing it in close quarters, while also buffing other classes indirectly.

Sticky spam in midfights will be less effective, and 2 sticking a scout in house or through a choke is not doable anymore. It buffs scouts through choke points and nerfs demomen with cocky positioning. If you can hit pipes and adjust yourself youll be fine.

This isn't the end of the world. It'll allow demomen to get to mid a little faster, while lowering their mid fight and choke damage output, meaning longer fights essentially with more pressure on the medic who now is taking less spam damage.

It changes the game in a ridiculously huge amount of ways, but pretty sure both teams still have a demoman. Adjust, or go back to crying on forums asking for convars to change it back and blaming it for your poor dm.

TLDR: the entire meta of midfights and rollouts is changed by something so miniscule, adjust.
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#270
-14 Frags +

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232130

demos still topdamaging

http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232130

demos still topdamaging
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