TF2 update for 6/23/14 (6/24/14 UTC)

#91

Yodo

-6 Frags – +

Heavies are still sad.

#92

choochoo

-18 Frags – +

Frost_Bitechoochoowait were you guys actually terrible enough to not be able to destroy sentries with the new stickies?In pubs, with wrangler+rescue ranger available, a lot of servers just became a ridiculous, unkillable nest.

well no shit, healing sentries/teleporting them halfway across the map is always going to be indestructible because valve made broken weapons for the aimbot class, but the process of stickying up a sentry and then blowing up all your sticks didn't change when valve made the first good change of the past two years by nerfing sticks.

[quote=Frost_Bite][quote=choochoo]wait were you guys actually terrible enough to not be able to destroy sentries with the new stickies?[/quote]
In pubs, with wrangler+rescue ranger available, a lot of servers just became a ridiculous, unkillable nest.[/quote]

well no shit, healing sentries/teleporting them halfway across the map is always going to be indestructible because valve made broken weapons for the aimbot class, but the process of stickying up a sentry and then blowing up all your sticks didn't change when valve made the first good change of the past two years by nerfing sticks.

#93

TG

55 Frags – +

YodoHeavies are still sad.

good

[quote=Yodo]Heavies are still sad.[/quote]
good

#94

flatline

29 Frags – +

Valve really needs to start using their beta to evaluate and test changes instead of just randomly pushing these changes on people and then reverting them a few days later.

#95

wareya

17 Frags – +

give people hats for playing beta

make beta part of the same download so people don't feel like they're wasting hard drive space

give people hats for playing beta

make beta part of the same download so people don't feel like they're wasting hard drive space

#96

narf

-2 Frags – +

I think a good change would to just have the damage scale up from 50% to 100% over 2 seconds from the point you start charging a sticky in your gun, the stick would continue to scale during the .7 second arm time.

That way the first few sticks a demo shoots at mid would be near full strength (rewarding faster rollouts) and krit sticky sniping would still do basically full damage, while preventing a demo from being able to left click right click a choke for 8 full dmg stickies

I think a good change would to just have the damage scale up from 50% to 100% over 2 seconds from the point you start charging a sticky in your gun, the stick would continue to scale during the .7 second arm time.

That way the first few sticks a demo shoots at mid would be near full strength (rewarding faster rollouts) and krit sticky sniping would still do basically full damage, while preventing a demo from being able to left click right click a choke for 8 full dmg stickies

#97

BLoodSire

43 Frags – +

No Classic buff. Games dead. Valve doesn't listen. I'm quitting TF2.

#98

eee

-3 Frags – +

choochooFrost_Bitechoochoowait were you guys actually terrible enough to not be able to destroy sentries with the new stickies?In pubs, with wrangler+rescue ranger available, a lot of servers just became a ridiculous, unkillable nest.
well no shit, healing sentries/teleporting them halfway across the map is always going to be indestructible because valve made broken weapons for the aimbot class, but the process of stickying up a sentry and then blowing up all your sticks didn't change when valve made the first good change of the past two years by nerfing sticks.

"killing sentries is easy as long as the engineer doesn't try to stop you from killing them"

best nerf would've been bell curve damage but valve hates things

[quote=choochoo][quote=Frost_Bite][quote=choochoo]wait were you guys actually terrible enough to not be able to destroy sentries with the new stickies?[/quote]
In pubs, with wrangler+rescue ranger available, a lot of servers just became a ridiculous, unkillable nest.[/quote]

well no shit, healing sentries/teleporting them halfway across the map is always going to be indestructible because valve made broken weapons for the aimbot class, but the process of stickying up a sentry and then blowing up all your sticks didn't change when valve made the first good change of the past two years by nerfing sticks.[/quote]
"killing sentries is easy as long as the engineer doesn't try to stop you from killing them"

best nerf would've been bell curve damage but valve hates things

#99

dMenace

6 Frags – +

flatlineValve really needs to start using their beta to evaluate and test changes instead of just randomly pushing these changes on people and then reverting them a few days later.

People need to start using TF2 Beta for that to actually work.

[quote=flatline]Valve really needs to start using their beta to evaluate and test changes instead of just randomly pushing these changes on people and then reverting them a few days later.[/quote]

People need to start using TF2 Beta for that to actually work.

#100

Radman

-5 Frags – +

eeebest nerf would've been bell curve damage but valve hates things

heh we did that on tightrope too.

[quote=eee]best nerf would've been bell curve damage but valve hates things[/quote]
heh we did that on tightrope too.

#101

wareya

11 Frags – +

dMenaceflatlineValve really needs to start using their beta to evaluate and test changes instead of just randomly pushing these changes on people and then reverting them a few days later.
People need to start using TF2 Beta for that to actually work.

give them hats

[quote=dMenace][quote=flatline]Valve really needs to start using their beta to evaluate and test changes instead of just randomly pushing these changes on people and then reverting them a few days later.[/quote]

People need to start using TF2 Beta for that to actually work.[/quote]
give them hats

#102

Brock

2 Frags – +

engies where gods in pubs this week
motherfucking gods

#103

defy

17 Frags – +

futureengies where gods in pubs this week
motherfucking gods

so engy mains thought they were actually good? news to me

[quote=future]engies where gods in pubs this week
motherfucking gods[/quote]

so engy mains thought they were actually good? news to me

#104

NightGoat

3 Frags – +

futureengies where gods in pubs this week
motherfucking gods

The amount of wrangled level threes made my brain hurt.

[quote=future]engies where gods in pubs this week
motherfucking gods[/quote]

The amount of wrangled level threes made my brain hurt.

#105

Marxist

9 Frags – +

I am pleased.

#106

Alleal

2 Frags – +

Can we open up some line of communication with valve about sticky nerfs in case they try something else bad?

#107

coolfool

-6 Frags – +

Your text to link here... let us rejoice brethren

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#108

loljk

-11 Frags – +

Because of this update I am able to remain a giant man child. Right when I was on the verge of acting like an adult and putting an end video gaming entirely, valve pulled me right back in.

#109

CanFo

Tt eSPORTS

0 Frags – +

Bummer... I actually liked that change...

#110

Jetty

4 Frags – +

choochoowait were you guys actually terrible enough to not be able to destroy sentries with the new stickies?

Short Circuit, Wrangler, Rescue Ranger.

Hell even wrangled mini sentry just takes time with nerfed stickies.

[quote=choochoo]wait were you guys actually terrible enough to not be able to destroy sentries with the new stickies?[/quote]
Short Circuit, Wrangler, Rescue Ranger.

Hell even wrangled mini sentry just takes time with nerfed stickies.

#111

r4pture

-4 Frags – +

I liked the nerf only because it reminded me the ScotRes exist. Viable? Not compared to the stock. Fun? Oh fuck yes.

And after the unnerf, I still have a fun as hell ScotRes. I'm ok with this, but it was neat to at least see other weapons used for a week.

I liked the nerf only because it reminded me the ScotRes exist. Viable? Not compared to the stock. Fun? Oh fuck yes.

And after the unnerf, I still have a fun as hell ScotRes. I'm ok with this, but it was neat to at least see other weapons used for a week.

#112

Kasdeus

5 Frags – +

http://i.imgur.com/01HaWAC.gif

[img]http://i.imgur.com/01HaWAC.gif[/img]

#113

ether

0 Frags – +

http://imgur.com/r/kateupton/8mbp9Xf

Is good.

[img]http://imgur.com/r/kateupton/8mbp9Xf[/img]

Is good.

#114

Schweppes

16 Frags – +

also these are now in maps (like gullywash), end of the line boys

http://i.imgur.com/oUZdMjT.jpg

also these are now in maps (like gullywash), end of the line boys
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oUZdMjT.jpg[/IMG]

#115

Flappi

31 Frags – +

http://puu.sh/9HT2C/15a9afd610.jpg

I want my desctription tag back.

[img]http://puu.sh/9HT2C/15a9afd610.jpg[/img]
I want my desctription tag back.

#116

Kuma

3 Frags – +

They should have a lot of great input from those "rant" threads
AOE ramp up is cool
clip size reduction is cool

or if they want to mess with air det, how about reduced blast radius when air det?

Of course numbers will need tweaking

alongside with some more hats

They should have a lot of great input from those "rant" threads
AOE ramp up is cool
clip size reduction is cool

or if they want to mess with air det, how about reduced blast radius when air det?

Of course numbers will need tweaking

alongside with some more hats

#117

Turin

5 Frags – +

Those were always in gullywash dude.

#118

popcorp

3 Frags – +

Schweppesalso these are now in maps (like gullywash), end of the line boys
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oUZdMjT.jpg[/IMG]

that's been there since map release, you probably didn't pay attention to it

[quote=Schweppes]also these are now in maps (like gullywash), end of the line boys
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oUZdMjT.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

that's been there since map release, you probably didn't pay attention to it

#119

damneasy

-6 Frags – +

There should just be a 2 sec ramp up that has lower splashradius, so people cant cry that it doesnt take skill.

#120

Kaneco

-3 Frags – +

Now that people are quick on jumping the gun that stickies still need a nerf beware of the consequences of that nerf. Imo the stickylauncher is the second most important weapon in the game after the medigun, and is essential part of the core mechanics of the game.

Any nerf to damage or spamming ability of this weapon is a indirect huge buff to heavies and wrangled sentries and we've seen how that hurts our game, both 6v6 and specially HL. I would prefer they would leave it completely unchanged like it has been for the past 6+ years obviously, but if anything has to happen to it (which I think it will) I think it should be very well thought as not to nerf spammability or damage too much. And if it does, then sentries should be nerfed to the ground, as well as full buffed heavies, otherwise the game becomes an unplayable stale mess.

These past few days I played some of the worst and most excruciating HL matches ever.

Now that people are quick on jumping the gun that stickies still need a nerf beware of the consequences of that nerf. Imo the stickylauncher is the second most important weapon in the game after the medigun, and is essential part of the core mechanics of the game.

Any nerf to damage or spamming ability of this weapon is a indirect huge buff to heavies and wrangled sentries and we've seen how that hurts our game, both 6v6 and specially HL. I would prefer they would leave it completely unchanged like it has been for the past 6+ years obviously, but if anything has to happen to it (which I think it will) I think it should be very well thought as not to nerf spammability or damage too much. And if it does, then sentries should be nerfed to the ground, as well as full buffed heavies, otherwise the game becomes an unplayable stale mess.

These past few days I played some of the worst and most excruciating HL matches ever.