I have been a smoker for the past ~5 years. Today is that day where I actually want to quit. I do not want to "try", I straight up want to quit. My problem with this, however, is after not smoking for so long I end up getting irrationally mad at everything and I absolutely hate it. That, and I feel like absolute shit for whatever the reason.
Any former smokers who were in the same boat with any advice they could give? I mean, I'll take any advice from someone who's in the right place to give it, but I believe receiving advice from people who reacted the same might help better overall.
I do not want to fail myself, and I do not want to fail my family. Please help.
I have been a smoker for the past ~5 years. Today is that day where I actually want to quit. I do not want to "try", I straight up want to quit. My problem with this, however, is after not smoking for so long I end up getting irrationally mad at everything and I absolutely hate it. That, and I feel like absolute shit for whatever the reason.
Any former smokers who were in the same boat with any advice they could give? I mean, I'll take any advice from someone who's in the right place to give it, but I believe receiving advice from people who reacted the same might help better overall.
I do not want to fail myself, and I do not want to fail my family. Please help.
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i've been smoking on and off since i was 18...and up until recently i quit. i haven't had a cigarette in about 5 months now. its definitely stressful and you notice how irritable you can get but seriously if you can make it over the 3 day hump into a week you will slowly forget about them, at least have some coffee in the mean time. still a stimulate, obviously not the same feeling you get from a cig but i suggest that for starters.
but after you do quit you will feel 110% better in more ways than one
i've been smoking on and off since i was 18...and up until recently i quit. i haven't had a cigarette in about 5 months now. its definitely stressful and you notice how irritable you can get but seriously if you can make it over the 3 day hump into a week you will slowly forget about them, at least have some coffee in the mean time. still a stimulate, obviously not the same feeling you get from a cig but i suggest that for starters.
but after you do quit you will feel 110% better in more ways than one
I know people who have quit drinking, and one key to staying sober is to replace the booze with something. It could be drinking diet coke, exercising, or whatever.
I know people who have quit drinking, and one key to staying sober is to replace the booze with something. It could be drinking diet coke, exercising, or whatever.
ask ur boy kev he kicked the habit a few months ago and could give u pointers
ask ur boy kev he kicked the habit a few months ago and could give u pointers
I'm in a similar situation, I suppose step 1 was "don't smoke"
As for now I've switched brands to a brand I don't like as much and have made certain rules for myself if I decide to smoke, such as "No smoking inside." I guess the next step after that would be "walk from X to Y and back to X if you decide to smoke" Both of which have helped me cut down quite a bit.
I have yet to get to the only so many per day rule that I want to get to.
I'm in a similar situation, I suppose step 1 was "don't smoke"
As for now I've switched brands to a brand I don't like as much and have made certain rules for myself if I decide to smoke, such as "No smoking inside." I guess the next step after that would be "walk from X to Y and back to X if you decide to smoke" Both of which have helped me cut down quite a bit.
I have yet to get to the only so many per day rule that I want to get to.
It might mean nothing, but my father was a former smoker, he quit straight up.
Going as far as you can and then having 'a' smoke might not be what you want, but it really does make the next step a lot easier, just keep trying to make the next period of not smoking longer and longer. Trying to surround yourself with people who make you happy, fun activities, getting support from people in general will help a lot. Avoid alcohol if that makes you want to smoke as well.
My father would always be incredibly mad, angry about everything but I could see he was trying hard and it meant a lot to me. So I always tried to support him with his effort and keep pushing him to not give in.
It's a normal aspect of giving up. The most I can say is don't give up, keep trying, stay positive with your efforts.
Just remember you can never fail giving up any period where you do not smoke is excellent.
It might mean nothing, but my father was a former smoker, he quit straight up.
Going as far as you can and then having 'a' smoke might not be what you want, but it really does make the next step a lot easier, just keep trying to make the next period of not smoking longer and longer. Trying to surround yourself with people who make you happy, fun activities, getting support from people in general will help a lot. Avoid alcohol if that makes you want to smoke as well.
My father would always be incredibly mad, angry about everything but I could see he was trying hard and it meant a lot to me. So I always tried to support him with his effort and keep pushing him to not give in.
It's a normal aspect of giving up. The most I can say is don't give up, keep trying, stay positive with your efforts.
Just remember you can never fail giving up any period where you do not smoke is excellent.
also its more mental than anything, if you have any cigs by you now throw them out now. you have to have strong will power, don't go to a 711 or whatever for a while where cigarettes are staring you in the face right behind the counter, anything that typically makes you want one or has easy access just avoid it.
also its more mental than anything, if you have any cigs by you now throw them out now. you have to have strong will power, don't go to a 711 or whatever for a while where cigarettes are staring you in the face right behind the counter, anything that typically makes you want one or has easy access just avoid it.
Personally, what I did was replace smoking with lifting, lots of coffee, and super minty gum (to simulate the smoking effect). You might develop a dependency to caffeine, but that's a lot healthier than smoking. When I stopped, everything was going in slow motion and I was super irritable. You just have to tough that part out. After you get through that 1 week hump, just make sure you resist the temptation to smoke when you see a cigarette or a lighter. If you can do all of that, you're golden.
Personally, what I did was replace smoking with lifting, lots of coffee, and super minty gum (to simulate the smoking effect). You might develop a dependency to caffeine, but that's a lot healthier than smoking. When I stopped, everything was going in slow motion and I was super irritable. You just have to tough that part out. After you get through that 1 week hump, just make sure you resist the temptation to smoke when you see a cigarette or a lighter. If you can do all of that, you're golden.
I quit smoking a while back. Then fell off the bus when work got stressful. Quitting again (hopefully for real this time) on Saturday.
What helped last time, a lot, was quitting with someone else. Peer pressure made a huge difference.
If that's not possible, I remember I drank a ton of coffee last time.
And if possible, avoid the people or places you places you usually smoke. I had a place outside the office where I would go, and after I quit smoking I would have a hard time when I was around there.
Running also helps.
Ultimately, though, there's not too many tips or "tricks" that I can offer. It comes down to a force of will, convincing yourself that your mind is stronger than your body.
I quit smoking a while back. Then fell off the bus when work got stressful. Quitting again (hopefully for real this time) on Saturday.
What helped last time, a lot, was quitting with someone else. Peer pressure made a huge difference.
If that's not possible, I remember I drank a ton of coffee last time.
And if possible, avoid the people or places you places you usually smoke. I had a place outside the office where I would go, and after I quit smoking I would have a hard time when I was around there.
Running also helps.
Ultimately, though, there's not too many tips or "tricks" that I can offer. It comes down to a force of will, convincing yourself that your mind is stronger than your body.
defydon't go to a 711 or whatever for a while where cigarettes are staring you in the face right behind the counter, anything that typically makes you want one or has easy access just avoid it.
Unfortunately, I work only a few feet away from where we sell cigarettes.
[quote=defy]don't go to a 711 or whatever for a while where cigarettes are staring you in the face right behind the counter, anything that typically makes you want one or has easy access just avoid it.[/quote]
Unfortunately, I work only a few feet away from where we sell cigarettes.
kirbydefydon't go to a 711 or whatever for a while where cigarettes are staring you in the face right behind the counter, anything that typically makes you want one or has easy access just avoid it.
Unfortunately, I work only a few feet away from where we sell cigarettes.
ur fucked homie
[quote=kirby][quote=defy]don't go to a 711 or whatever for a while where cigarettes are staring you in the face right behind the counter, anything that typically makes you want one or has easy access just avoid it.[/quote]
Unfortunately, I work only a few feet away from where we sell cigarettes.[/quote]
ur fucked homie
find something else to give you a high, something that wont destroy your lungs for starters.
hit the gym and start taking a multivitamin every morning. being in shape will give you motivation to never go back to it.
find something else to give you a high, something that wont destroy your lungs for starters.
hit the gym and start taking a multivitamin every morning. being in shape will give you motivation to never go back to it.
I've found that the best way is to break down habits you associate with smoking or modify them with other things that reward you positively. I used to smoke every morning with my coffee and when I was quitting I couldn't stand the sight of it. I switched to Redbull and light cardio. Exercise helps a surprising amount and the endorphins are great. Word of warning: DONT USE E-CIGS while they are "healthier" they actually have a higher percentage nicotine than your average cigarette and deepen your addiction. Plus they are just a rationalization. I found that I i stayed busy and distracted it was easier. The worst part was going to sleep at night and getting up in the morning. Weed really helped more than anything but thats just personal preference.
edit:this thread makes me want a cigarette goddamnit
I've found that the best way is to break down habits you associate with smoking or modify them with other things that reward you positively. I used to smoke every morning with my coffee and when I was quitting I couldn't stand the sight of it. I switched to Redbull and light cardio. Exercise helps a surprising amount and the endorphins are great. Word of warning: [b]DONT USE E-CIGS[/b] while they are "healthier" they actually have a higher percentage nicotine than your average cigarette and deepen your addiction. Plus they are just a rationalization. I found that I i stayed busy and distracted it was easier. The worst part was going to sleep at night and getting up in the morning. Weed really helped more than anything but thats just personal preference.
edit:this thread makes me want a cigarette goddamnit
http://www.reddit.com/r/stopsmoking
seems like a decent resource, with just over 25k subs.
Try talking to someone at your work who also quit or knows someone who did, so you can talk to someone in person about your difficulties.
http://www.reddit.com/r/stopsmoking
seems like a decent resource, with just over 25k subs.
Try talking to someone at your work who also quit or knows someone who did, so you can talk to someone in person about your difficulties.
Actually do look into vaporizers. Not all e-juice has a high nic content. I use 6mg/ml in a magma RDA clone sitting on a Sentinel Mod clone. It was the only way i was able to quit smoking. If u get into mechanical mods as I did then u have something to tinker with constantly too. So if your interested in Vapeing definitely hit up your local vape shop and ask some questions. Gets you your nicotine without all the tar and smell. If u want to get completely off nicotine then they make 0mg juice too so u can drop from like 6mg/ml to 4mg/ml then 2mg/ml then nicotine free. If using a Carto type "e-cig" its probably not going to feel as satisfying as a cigarette and that's why most Carto types use 18-24mg/ml nicotine. If u get a good Tank type vaporizer then u shouldn't need a high nic e-juice maybe something around 12mg/ml or even less.
Actually do look into vaporizers. Not all e-juice has a high nic content. I use 6mg/ml in a magma RDA clone sitting on a Sentinel Mod clone. It was the only way i was able to quit smoking. If u get into mechanical mods as I did then u have something to tinker with constantly too. So if your interested in Vapeing definitely hit up your local vape shop and ask some questions. Gets you your nicotine without all the tar and smell. If u want to get completely off nicotine then they make 0mg juice too so u can drop from like 6mg/ml to 4mg/ml then 2mg/ml then nicotine free. If using a Carto type "e-cig" its probably not going to feel as satisfying as a cigarette and that's why most Carto types use 18-24mg/ml nicotine. If u get a good Tank type vaporizer then u shouldn't need a high nic e-juice maybe something around 12mg/ml or even less.
fuck withdrawals. get a vape. it's so easy. don't deal with the psychological bullshit.
fuck withdrawals. get a vape. it's [b]so[/b] easy. don't deal with the psychological bullshit.
vilefuck withdrawals. get a vape. it's so easy. don't deal with the psychological bullshit.
Not a real solution.
[quote=vile]fuck withdrawals. get a vape. it's [b]so[/b] easy. don't deal with the psychological bullshit.[/quote]
Not a real solution.
Coming from someone that has tried to quit for quite a while now, here is some things that I have noticed about the good and bad about quitting techniques.
1) Irrational anger is going to happen, there is not too much you can do to stop it.
2) While some people have had success with e-cigs to quit, many others have just replaced smoking for e-cigs
3) Patches, for myself at least, led to difficulty sleeping and really lucid (and insane) dreams. I would personally say gum is better than patches.
4) Avoid alcohol and other people that smoke at all costs.
5) Avoid places that you would smoke at during certain times. For example, I noticed that I would smoke at a certain point when I was driving to work.
6) Have someone help you with rewards, if possible.
7) Set a goal that you could do with the money that you will save by no longer buying them.
8) If possible, avoid stress. If you are able, take vacation time for the first hump.
9) The kinda 21 day rule;
As with any addiction there will be a withdrawal process produced in your body and re-enforced within your brain. The withdrawal is very real and can be documented by tracking the demand loads from the cell receptor sites. During primary withdrawal, about 14 days, it is quite important to tie the habits/behaviors consciously to the opposite area in Professor Plutchik’s circumplex model charts. Easier said then done for most, but if one breaches this critical gap, within an additional 14 days (28 days from start), the majority of the work would already have been done. By the 45-56 day mark, your cells would have been deemphasized for a particular neuropeptide requirement and emotionally, one would not feel the same level of attraction to the unwanted behaviors/habits.
I have more, but it's a good start
Coming from someone that has tried to quit for quite a while now, here is some things that I have noticed about the good and bad about quitting techniques.
1) Irrational anger is going to happen, there is not too much you can do to stop it.
2) While some people have had success with e-cigs to quit, many others have just replaced smoking for e-cigs
3) Patches, for myself at least, led to difficulty sleeping and really lucid (and insane) dreams. I would personally say gum is better than patches.
4) Avoid alcohol and other people that smoke at all costs.
5) Avoid places that you would smoke at during certain times. For example, I noticed that I would smoke at a certain point when I was driving to work.
6) Have someone help you with rewards, if possible.
7) Set a goal that you could do with the money that you will save by no longer buying them.
8) If possible, avoid stress. If you are able, take vacation time for the first hump.
9) The kinda 21 day rule; [quote]As with any addiction there will be a withdrawal process produced in your body and re-enforced within your brain. The withdrawal is very real and can be documented by tracking the demand loads from the cell receptor sites. During primary withdrawal, about 14 days, it is quite important to tie the habits/behaviors consciously to the opposite area in Professor Plutchik’s circumplex model charts. Easier said then done for most, but if one breaches this critical gap, within an additional 14 days (28 days from start), the majority of the work would already have been done. By the 45-56 day mark, your cells would have been deemphasized for a particular neuropeptide requirement and emotionally, one would not feel the same level of attraction to the unwanted behaviors/habits.[/quote]
I have more, but it's a good start
Oh yeah, a lot of people have said that you will drink a lot of coffee. Be careful about that, for some people drinking coffee is a trigger.
Oh yeah, a lot of people have said that you will drink a lot of coffee. Be careful about that, for some people drinking coffee is a trigger.
I've had a few people suggest taking a week vacation, but I already did that a couple months ago. I knew I should have saved it for later. Thankfully I find coffee disgusting.
I've had a few people suggest taking a week vacation, but I already did that a couple months ago. I knew I should have saved it for later. Thankfully I find coffee disgusting.
I avoided alcohol for 2 weeks, and just rode it out. Felt like I was in a different world for 5 days or so. Staying busy helped as the worst cravings came when I had nothing to do. 2 1/2 years now. Cold turkey. NEVER bum a drag, never bum a smoke, never buy one, DON'T FUCKING SMOKE!!!
I avoided alcohol for 2 weeks, and just rode it out. Felt like I was in a different world for 5 days or so. Staying busy helped as the worst cravings came when I had nothing to do. 2 1/2 years now. Cold turkey. NEVER bum a drag, never bum a smoke, never buy one, DON'T FUCKING SMOKE!!!
I think the most important thing to quitting is having a real investment in doing so. The people who fall off the wagon forget about their reasons for doing so - that's not a reprehensible thing, but it's what happens in my experience.
That said, what helped me maintain that investment for myslef was cardio. When I was a kid/teenager, I was heavy into biking, doing stuff like double marathon rides on the weekend. I wanted to be anywhere close to that again, and I knew that smoking was keeping me away from it. So I started cardio training again, and it helps me feel a lot better. It has helped increase my lung capacity a bit too since I quit 2 years ago. I've gone from feeling like a heart attack after five minutes of light cardio to heavy 45 min workouts in about a year of intense training. (Sidenote, if you want to do something like that, I recommend seeing a cardiologist. I have heart problems anyway so I already had one, but for me, it was such a taxing thing to do to my body after smoking as heavily as I did in college that I really needed to adjust my performance expectations).
Don't give yourself any ground back towards accepting smoking as something you do, and you won't. Good luck man.
I think the most important thing to quitting is having a real investment in doing so. The people who fall off the wagon forget about their reasons for doing so - that's not a reprehensible thing, but it's what happens in my experience.
That said, what helped me maintain that investment for myslef was cardio. When I was a kid/teenager, I was heavy into biking, doing stuff like double marathon rides on the weekend. I wanted to be anywhere close to that again, and I knew that smoking was keeping me away from it. So I started cardio training again, and it helps me feel a lot better. It has helped increase my lung capacity a bit too since I quit 2 years ago. I've gone from feeling like a heart attack after five minutes of light cardio to heavy 45 min workouts in about a year of intense training. (Sidenote, if you want to do something like that, I recommend seeing a cardiologist. I have heart problems anyway so I already had one, but for me, it was such a taxing thing to do to my body after smoking as heavily as I did in college that I really needed to adjust my performance expectations).
Don't give yourself any ground back towards accepting smoking as something you do, and you won't. Good luck man.
tyrone recomends electronic cigarettes
tyrone recomends electronic cigarettes
Do not be too hard on yourself, but the only thing that you need to quit is discipline.
If you tend to hang out with other smokers and are tempted seeing them smoke, don't smoke a whole cigarette, rather, ask for a drag or 2 and then give it back. This will help you scratch that itch for nicotine, but without getting enough to cause more addiction. If that ever becomes "I just wont buy a pack, but I'll bum one," not only will your friends not like you, but you might as well buy a pack and go back to smoking if you find yourself with this mentality because you will lose friends for being an ass and stealing cigarettes. Yes, lying to your friends (and yourself) that you are quitting in order to coerce them to give you cigarettes is stealing.
Drinking alcohol can cause you to smoke more than you realize, and you will wake up the next day re-addicted. If you find yourself unable to drink without smoking, don't drink.
Do not be too hard on yourself, but the only thing that you need to quit is discipline.
If you tend to hang out with other smokers and are tempted seeing them smoke, don't smoke a whole cigarette, rather, ask for a drag or 2 and then give it back. This will help you scratch that itch for nicotine, but without getting enough to cause more addiction. If that ever becomes "I just wont buy a pack, but I'll bum one," not only will your friends not like you, but you might as well buy a pack and go back to smoking if you find yourself with this mentality because you will lose friends for being an ass and stealing cigarettes. Yes, lying to your friends (and yourself) that you are quitting in order to coerce them to give you cigarettes is stealing.
Drinking alcohol can cause you to smoke more than you realize, and you will wake up the next day re-addicted. If you find yourself unable to drink without smoking, don't drink.
should we just convert this forum into a life advice forum and tf.gg can be the new center for natf2?
should we just convert this forum into a life advice forum and tf.gg can be the new center for natf2?
it's in off topic
people can talk about whatever they want
it's in off topic
people can talk about whatever they want
Should we just convert this forum into an anti-bitch forum
Should we just convert this forum into an anti-bitch forum