MapleAustinAm I the only one who gets more upset by the cops moving the camera? Isn't recording the police legal?
It is, but my understanding was the streamer didn't want thousands of people see him getting arrested and so told the police to shut it down. Could be wrong though.
After listening and watching again, I heard nothing about the streamer asking him to shut it off. He mentions people are watching, and the cop moves the webcam. Shit like that is what upsets me.
[quote=Maple][quote=Austin]Am I the only one who gets more upset by the cops moving the camera? Isn't recording the police legal?[/quote]
It is, but my understanding was the streamer didn't want thousands of people see him getting arrested and so told the police to shut it down. Could be wrong though.[/quote]
After listening and watching again, I heard nothing about the streamer asking him to shut it off. He mentions people are watching, and the cop moves the webcam. Shit like that is what upsets me.
i am going to swat slin when he is in playoff Kappa
i am going to swat slin when he is in playoff Kappa
omzi am going to swat slin when he is in playoff Kappa
http://i.imgur.com/adKcnCy.jpg
[quote=omz]i am going to swat slin when he is in playoff Kappa[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/adKcnCy.jpg[/img]
omzi am going to swat slin when he is in playoff Kappa
This is not something to joke about. It's a serious issue that can put many innocent lives in danger, including the target, especially if there happens to be a real emergency at the same time.
[quote=omz]i am going to swat slin when he is in playoff Kappa[/quote]
This is not something to joke about. It's a serious issue that can put many innocent lives in danger, including the target, especially if there happens to be a real emergency at the same time.
all its gonna take is a sudden movement from someone w sound cancelling headphones and someone's going to get shot. i'd put money on it.
all its gonna take is a sudden movement from someone w sound cancelling headphones and someone's going to get shot. i'd put money on it.
This is not even remotely funny, or even something to take lightly. Think of it from a POV from someone that is getting their house raided. They are likely spending multiple days in a jail, but they now need a lawyer in most cases. This shit is honestly a little bit scarey.
This is not even remotely funny, or even something to take lightly. Think of it from a POV from someone that is getting their house raided. They are likely spending multiple days in a jail, but they now need a lawyer in most cases. This shit is honestly a little bit scarey.
his local news publicly stated his address in the article... it's like they didn't even think it through, haha.
his local news publicly stated his address in the article... it's like they didn't even think it through, haha.
turtsmcgurtshis local news publicly stated his address in the article... it's like they didn't even think it through, haha.
well this was at their office, they are a bunch of youtubers so a lot of things about them are public. but yeah the news saying the address is not good if they don't want fans knocking on their door and messing with them.
[quote=turtsmcgurts]his local news publicly stated his address in the article... it's like they didn't even think it through, haha.[/quote]
well this was at their office, they are a bunch of youtubers so a lot of things about them are public. but yeah the news saying the address is not good if they don't want fans knocking on their door and messing with them.
Good thing he wasn't a minority, probably would've been shot to death.
Good thing he wasn't a minority, probably would've been shot to death.
Those people who think the police were a little rude or rough have no understanding of what a raid entails for those doing the raiding.
The swat have no idea what can be behind any door and whether the room is filled with a gamer at his computer or a guy with a IED and an automatic rifle. The police cannot make any assumptions about whether the guy they are raiding is fake or not until the place has been completely secured.
The video is kind of interesting because there is this contrast between the 'fun' of video game counter terrorism and then real life counter terrorism. Although it was a little funny when the terrorist team won the round and the game says "Terrorists Win".
The people who ultimately lose however are the tax payers because it takes time and money to assemble and maintain a swat crew. And with a policy of taking every threat seriously it will only cost more.
Those people who think the police were a little rude or rough have no understanding of what a raid entails for those doing the raiding.
The swat have no idea what can be behind any door and whether the room is filled with a gamer at his computer or a guy with a IED and an automatic rifle. The police cannot make any assumptions about whether the guy they are raiding is fake or not until the place has been completely secured.
The video is kind of interesting because there is this contrast between the 'fun' of video game counter terrorism and then real life counter terrorism. Although it was a little funny when the terrorist team won the round and the game says "Terrorists Win".
The people who ultimately lose however are the tax payers because it takes time and money to assemble and maintain a swat crew. And with a policy of taking every threat seriously it will only cost more.
what more can u expect from a bunch of sweaty nerds honestly. and when someone does get shot or something tragic happens, that nerd who called the raid is going to be the one that the parents sue not the swat officers...
what more can u expect from a bunch of sweaty nerds honestly. and when someone does get shot or something tragic happens, that nerd who called the raid is going to be the one that the parents sue not the swat officers...
RoodYThis is fucking hilarious.
remember when you lost your fucking virtual hat
[quote=RoodY]This is fucking hilarious.[/quote]
remember when you lost your fucking virtual hat
loljkThose people who think the police were a little rude or rough have no understanding of what a raid entails for those doing the raiding.
The swat have no idea what can be behind any door and whether the room is filled with a gamer at his computer or a guy with a IED and an automatic rifle. The police cannot make any assumptions about whether the guy they are raiding is fake or not until the place has been completely secured.
sure its a high pressure, potentially very dangerous situation.
it doesn't mean they have to be classless and unprofessional.
They could easily say get on the ground, don't move. instead of don't fucking move ya hear me boy whats funny?? and not step on his face when hes clearly not resisting and is potentially innocent.
there's nothing inherent in that job which says you have to be a fucking asshole. their true colors show under pressure.
if they were calm collected respectful but forceful then perhaps I would respect them.
[quote=loljk]Those people who think the police were a little rude or rough have no understanding of what a raid entails for those doing the raiding.
The swat have no idea what can be behind any door and whether the room is filled with a gamer at his computer or a guy with a IED and an automatic rifle. The police cannot make any assumptions about whether the guy they are raiding is fake or not until the place has been completely secured. [/quote]
sure its a high pressure, potentially very dangerous situation.
it doesn't mean they have to be classless and unprofessional.
They could easily say get on the ground, don't move. instead of don't fucking move ya hear me boy whats funny?? and not step on his face when hes clearly not resisting and is potentially innocent.
there's nothing inherent in that job which says you have to be a fucking asshole. their true colors show under pressure.
if they were calm collected respectful but forceful then perhaps I would respect them.
wonderlandloljkThose people who think the police were a little rude or rough have no understanding of what a raid entails for those doing the raiding.
The swat have no idea what can be behind any door and whether the room is filled with a gamer at his computer or a guy with a IED and an automatic rifle. The police cannot make any assumptions about whether the guy they are raiding is fake or not until the place has been completely secured.
sure its a high pressure, potentially very dangerous situation.
it doesn't mean they have to be classless and unprofessional.
They could easily say get on the ground, don't move. instead of don't fucking move ya hear me boy whats funny?? and not step on his face when hes clearly not resisting and is potentially innocent.
there's nothing inherent in that job which says you have to be a fucking asshole. their true colors show under pressure.
if they were calm collected respectful but forceful then perhaps I would respect them.
You are full of shit.
[quote=wonderland][quote=loljk]Those people who think the police were a little rude or rough have no understanding of what a raid entails for those doing the raiding.
The swat have no idea what can be behind any door and whether the room is filled with a gamer at his computer or a guy with a IED and an automatic rifle. The police cannot make any assumptions about whether the guy they are raiding is fake or not until the place has been completely secured. [/quote]
sure its a high pressure, potentially very dangerous situation.
it doesn't mean they have to be classless and unprofessional.
They could easily say get on the ground, don't move. instead of don't fucking move ya hear me boy whats funny?? and not step on his face when hes clearly not resisting and is potentially innocent.
there's nothing inherent in that job which says you have to be a fucking asshole. their true colors show under pressure.
if they were calm collected respectful but forceful then perhaps I would respect them.[/quote]
You are full of shit.
loljkYou are full of shit.
solid counter-argument
you should go join swat you would fit right in rude boy
[quote=loljk]You are full of shit.[/quote]
solid counter-argument
you should go join swat you would fit right in rude boy
wonderlandloljkYou are full of shit.
solid counter-argument
you should go join swat you would fit right in rude boy
"alright all the information we have is that there may be a bomb somewhere behind this door"
"this may be my last day on earth"
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a dude in here"
"fuck i used an expletive while i was clearing a room with a potential suspect"
"i was so caught up in the life or death situation that i forgot that some random nerd on tftv would complain about the way that i cleared a room while he sweated in his computer chair bitching about me"
[quote=wonderland][quote=loljk]You are full of shit.[/quote]
solid counter-argument
you should go join swat you would fit right in rude boy[/quote]
"alright all the information we have is that there may be a bomb somewhere behind this door"
"this may be my last day on earth"
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a dude in here"
"fuck i used an expletive while i was clearing a room with a potential suspect"
"i was so caught up in the life or death situation that i forgot that some random nerd on tftv would complain about the way that i cleared a room while he sweated in his computer chair bitching about me"
haha let me take a shot at that
"alright all the information we have is an anonymous phonecall"
"this may be my last chance to abuse someone today'
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a skinny white kid playing video games"
"GET DOWN ON THE GRT GET DOWN ON THE FUCKJNG GORUND JKDFJADFJSJ KDFS KDK"
"now im going to step on his face lolol"
"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY? YOU THINK SWAT RAIDING YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOURE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME AS A TERRORIST IS FUNNY. SAY SOMETHING SO I CAN BEAT YOU"
"oh the webcam is on fuck"
haha let me take a shot at that
"alright all the information we have is an anonymous phonecall"
"this may be my last chance to abuse someone today'
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a skinny white kid playing video games"
"GET DOWN ON THE GRT GET DOWN ON THE FUCKJNG GORUND JKDFJADFJSJ KDFS KDK"
"now im going to step on his face lolol"
"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY? YOU THINK SWAT RAIDING YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOURE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME AS A TERRORIST IS FUNNY. SAY SOMETHING SO I CAN BEAT YOU"
"oh the webcam is on fuck"
wonderlandhaha let me take a shot at that
"alright all the information we have is an anonymous phonecall"
"this may be my last chance to abuse someone today'
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a skinny white kid playing video games"
"GET DOWN ON THE GRT GET DOWN ON THE FUCKJNG GORUND JKDFJADFJSJ KDFS KDK"
"now im going to step on his face lolol"
"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY? YOU THINK SWAT RAIDING YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOURE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME AS A TERRORIST IS FUNNY. SAY SOMETHING SO I CAN BEAT YOU"
"oh the webcam is on fuck"
if he was bearded and wearing a turban instead of being a "skinny white kid" would that make it more reasonable for the cops to "step on his face"? what relevance does the way he looks play in their on the fly response to a life threatening situation? do you think that because this person looks normal they should drop their guard and start dicking around because theres clearly no danger? or do you think maybe assumptions like that gets people like them killed and they decided to take that shit seriously, however unlikely their first impressions of the situation would make it seem?
when have you ever willingly put your life in danger to protect strangers, and in what fucking universe do you think youre qualified to pass judgement on how these men react in a high stress high risk situation like responding to a bomb threat?
[quote=wonderland]haha let me take a shot at that
"alright all the information we have is an anonymous phonecall"
"this may be my last chance to abuse someone today'
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a skinny white kid playing video games"
"GET DOWN ON THE GRT GET DOWN ON THE FUCKJNG GORUND JKDFJADFJSJ KDFS KDK"
"now im going to step on his face lolol"
"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY? YOU THINK SWAT RAIDING YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOURE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME AS A TERRORIST IS FUNNY. SAY SOMETHING SO I CAN BEAT YOU"
"oh the webcam is on fuck"[/quote]
if he was bearded and wearing a turban instead of being a "skinny white kid" would that make it more reasonable for the cops to "step on his face"? what relevance does the way he looks play in their on the fly response to a life threatening situation? do you think that because this person looks normal they should drop their guard and start dicking around because theres clearly no danger? or do you think maybe assumptions like that gets people like them killed and they decided to take that shit seriously, however unlikely their first impressions of the situation would make it seem?
when have you ever willingly put your life in danger to protect strangers, and in what fucking universe do you think youre qualified to pass judgement on how these men react in a high stress high risk situation like responding to a bomb threat?
wonderlandhaha let me take a shot at that
"alright all the information we have is an anonymous phonecall"
"this may be my last chance to abuse someone today'
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a skinny white kid playing video games"
"GET DOWN ON THE GRT GET DOWN ON THE FUCKJNG GORUND JKDFJADFJSJ KDFS KDK"
"now im going to step on his face lolol"
"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY? YOU THINK SWAT RAIDING YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOURE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME AS A TERRORIST IS FUNNY. SAY SOMETHING SO I CAN BEAT YOU"
"oh the webcam is on fuck"
You are really retarded if you suggest the swat team shouldn't take the call seriously. If they are sent out to deal with a threat, do you think they will get their nice-guy attitude on, and knock on the door? You are talking like they are just doing this for the fun of it. If this had been a real threat, this kind of behavior would be necessarry. But because fat idiots on the internet like you think they are funny, shit like this happens.
[quote=wonderland]haha let me take a shot at that
"alright all the information we have is an anonymous phonecall"
"this may be my last chance to abuse someone today'
"all rooms but this one clear"
"holy fuck theres a skinny white kid playing video games"
"GET DOWN ON THE GRT GET DOWN ON THE FUCKJNG GORUND JKDFJADFJSJ KDFS KDK"
"now im going to step on his face lolol"
"YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY? YOU THINK SWAT RAIDING YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOURE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME AS A TERRORIST IS FUNNY. SAY SOMETHING SO I CAN BEAT YOU"
"oh the webcam is on fuck"[/quote]
You are really retarded if you suggest the swat team shouldn't take the call seriously. If they are sent out to deal with a threat, do you think they will get their nice-guy attitude on, and knock on the door? You are talking like they are just doing this for the fun of it. If this had been a real threat, this kind of behavior would be necessarry. But because fat idiots on the internet like you think they are funny, shit like this happens.
Well, on the bright side he didn't get shot, and has grounds for a lawsuit on several accounts. His 4th amendment rights were violated when they looked at his phone without a warrant (even if you're arrested your phone is still protected until they get a warrant for that - one of the few things the supreme court has agreed upon 9-0 lol). Not to mention damages against the guy who maliciously made the call, if found, is gonna get boned with a potential felony.
Well, on the bright side he didn't get shot, and has grounds for a lawsuit on several accounts. His 4th amendment rights were violated when they looked at his phone without a warrant (even if you're arrested your phone is still protected until they get a warrant for that - one of the few things the supreme court has agreed upon 9-0 lol). Not to mention damages against the guy who maliciously made the call, if found, is gonna get boned with a potential felony.
Maxiif he was bearded and wearing a turban instead of being a "skinny white kid" would that make it more reasonable for the cops to "step on his face"? what relevance does the way he looks play in their on the fly response to a life threatening situation? do you think that because this person looks normal they should drop their guard and start dicking around because theres clearly no danger? or do you think maybe assumptions like that gets people like them killed and they decided to take that shit seriously, however unlikely their first impressions of the situation would make it seem?
when have you ever willingly put your life in danger to protect strangers, and in what fucking universe do you think youre qualified to pass judgement on how these men react in a high stress high risk situation like responding to a bomb threat?
I don't think its reasonable to step on someones face (even if you guys do). why would I think it would be reasonable if he had a 'beard and turban?'
also looks are very relevant on gauging how threatening a person or situation is, even for swat..
and please dont act like you know a single thing about me, thanks
ScissorsYou are really retarded if you suggest the swat team shouldn't take the call seriously. If they are sent out to deal with a threat, do you think they will get their nice-guy attitude on, and knock on the door? You are talking like they are just doing this for the fun of it. If this had been a real threat, this kind of behavior would be necessarry. But because fat idiots on the internet like you think they are funny, shit like this happens.
zzz.
It's not that I think they shouldn't take it seriously. I merely think the swat team should remain open to the possibility that the person is innocent and should refrain from verbally or physically abusing them. particularly in a situation like this where they have no evidence.
I wouldn't purposely make anyone including my enemies be subjected to police brutality so nah I'm not the reason shit like this happens.
but gj jumping on my clearly not serious post guys. im goin to stop before tf.tv pops a blood vessel
[quote=Maxi]
if he was bearded and wearing a turban instead of being a "skinny white kid" would that make it more reasonable for the cops to "step on his face"? what relevance does the way he looks play in their on the fly response to a life threatening situation? do you think that because this person looks normal they should drop their guard and start dicking around because theres clearly no danger? or do you think maybe assumptions like that gets people like them killed and they decided to take that shit seriously, however unlikely their first impressions of the situation would make it seem?
when have you ever willingly put your life in danger to protect strangers, and in what fucking universe do you think youre qualified to pass judgement on how these men react in a high stress high risk situation like responding to a bomb threat?[/quote]
I don't think its reasonable to step on someones face (even if you guys do). why would I think it would be reasonable if he had a 'beard and turban?'
also looks are very relevant on gauging how threatening a person or situation is, even for swat..
and please dont act like you know a single thing about me, thanks
[quote=Scissors]
You are really retarded if you suggest the swat team shouldn't take the call seriously. If they are sent out to deal with a threat, do you think they will get their nice-guy attitude on, and knock on the door? You are talking like they are just doing this for the fun of it. If this had been a real threat, this kind of behavior would be necessarry. But because fat idiots on the internet like you think they are funny, shit like this happens.[/quote]
zzz.
It's not that I think they shouldn't take it seriously. I merely think the swat team should remain open to the possibility that the person is innocent and should refrain from verbally or physically abusing them. particularly in a situation like this where they have no evidence.
I wouldn't purposely make anyone including my enemies be subjected to police brutality so nah I'm not the reason shit like this happens.
but gj jumping on my clearly not serious post guys. im goin to stop before tf.tv pops a blood vessel
[quote=wonderland]snip[/quote]
[img]http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1367/10/1367102139778.jpg[/img]
do you actually think anything that happened in that video is "police brutality"?
a counter-terrorism unit's priority is not to ensure people's feelings aren't hurt, welcome to reality
do you actually think anything that happened in that video is "police brutality"?
a counter-terrorism unit's priority is not to ensure people's feelings aren't hurt, welcome to reality
People need to stop posting videos of streamers getting Swatted. It only enhances the chances some other person will see this shit and attempt to do it.
People need to stop posting videos of streamers getting Swatted. It only enhances the chances some other person will see this shit and attempt to do it.
Wonderland why are you OK with police racial profiling based on looks, but if they forcefully arrest a potential bomber, that's not ok.
Wonderland why are you OK with police racial profiling based on looks, but if they forcefully arrest a potential bomber, that's not ok.
People calling police brutality on situations like this really delegitimize actual police brutality that happens all the time across the nation.
People calling police brutality on situations like this really delegitimize actual police brutality that happens all the time across the nation.
If you're unable to handle acting in a professional manner in high-pressure situations then maybe SWAT team's not the job for you.
I know it's not the biggest deal ever (I'm sure he'll get over the officer being mean to him) but there are standards of behaviour that are expected of you and that you agree to by becoming a police officer and "it's hard" is kind of a poor excuse for not meeting them.
If you're unable to handle acting in a professional manner in high-pressure situations then maybe SWAT team's not the job for you.
I know it's not the biggest deal ever (I'm sure he'll get over the officer being mean to him) but there are standards of behaviour that are expected of you and that you agree to by becoming a police officer and "it's hard" is kind of a poor excuse for not meeting them.
EmilioEstevezI know it's not the biggest deal ever (hurt feelings police) but there are standards of behaviour that are expected of you and that you agree to by becoming a police officer and "it's hard" is kind of a poor excuse for not meeting them.
They could totally do their jobs without being rude to this guy, you're totally right. But how much attention are they paying to being respectful when one tactical mistake could get them or their close friends killed? Being a ruder than you should is really natural for people under stress. I'm sure you've at one point been a dick to someone in the heat of the moment that you really didn't mean.
[quote=EmilioEstevez]I know it's not the biggest deal ever (hurt feelings police) but there are standards of behaviour that are expected of you and that you agree to by becoming a police officer and "it's hard" is kind of a poor excuse for not meeting them.[/quote]
They could totally do their jobs without being rude to this guy, you're totally right. But how much attention are they paying to being respectful when one tactical mistake could get them or their close friends killed? Being a ruder than you should is really natural for people under stress. I'm sure you've at one point been a dick to someone in the heat of the moment that you really didn't mean.
smoboThey could totally do their jobs without being rude to this guy, you're totally right. But how much attention are they paying to being respectful when one tactical mistake could get them or their close friends killed?
I get your point but they sign up for this job, nobody forces them to be there. They are public servants after all and I just think they should strive to act a little more professionally.
It's a minor issue in the grand scheme of things but I don't think they portrayed themselves in the best light here.
[quote=smobo]
They could totally do their jobs without being rude to this guy, you're totally right. But how much attention are they paying to being respectful when one tactical mistake could get them or their close friends killed?[/quote]
I get your point but they sign up for this job, nobody forces them to be there. They are public servants after all and I just think they should strive to act a little more professionally.
It's a minor issue in the grand scheme of things but I don't think they portrayed themselves in the best light here.
EmilioEstevezIf you're unable to handle acting in a professional manner in high-pressure situations then maybe SWAT team's not the job for you.
fucking lol unreal
fortunately for people whose lives actually depend on the response of SWAT teams, your random assertion that courtesy should be one of the deciding factors in hiring has no basis in reality
[quote=EmilioEstevez]If you're unable to handle acting in a professional manner in high-pressure situations then maybe SWAT team's not the job for you.[/quote]
fucking lol unreal
fortunately for people whose lives actually depend on the response of SWAT teams, your random assertion that courtesy should be one of the deciding factors in hiring has no basis in reality