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the good ole days

irc was cool it made being a team leader moderately less cancer

you also get to play against a bigger variety of teams so you see different plays/learn to play against different styles

however irc is pretty outdated. people should make a scrim website that actually works like irc (scrims in the moment) with a cleaner interface and additional features. all scrim sites i've seen are for scheduling which isn't really what tf2 needs

until that happens though just use IRC

its perfectly functional even if the UI is dated and limited

http://scrim.me/ i have never used this i just remembered hearing of this

Why do I have to have 40 people added on steam for scrims alone

that's for scheduling scrims not finding them at scrim time

oh my bad i just saw the name i thought it would be relevant

It shouldn't be too hard to add instant scrims to an existing scrim site. Should be at least slightly easier than making one from scratch unless the existing code is bad.

Also, a problem with IRC is trolls that will advertise as a low/mid open team and they end up being pugscrims, high open or IM team, or just some dudes who want to fuck around and waste another team's time for some reason. Granted this isn't a huge problem (especially since with better teams or pugscrims you might learn some new things from them) but it has happened before. I assume making a frontend for it would pretty much fix the issue (does this happen with the web scrim schedulers?).

why not use discord

discord would not be a bad idea but irc still works as well

to avoid aids mixes and bad teams overestimating their skill level.

id rather play a shit team than wait fucking 30 minutes to get a scrim that might also be shit

its not like the community is small enough where you can tell when people are lying 90% of the time

pug.me ---> +scrim feature +hl pugs = +traffic

prep for matchmaking

if there was only a league that provided a scrim service for tf2!!!

Don't know if I'm doing this right, but here is the discord link to the scrim channel for the TFTV discord:
https://discord.gg/0Smo0KLDcoV9n1V8
I think discord would be a more relevant and just as easy way to use a chat and find scrims. All it takes is for actual team leaders/scrim finders to actually use the chat, or any sort of scrim site.

dango isn't online enough to fix basic shit like the bot crashing every 5 minutes so I have my suspicions that he wouldn't care to implement something like that, though it would be a nice feature

agree 100% about using irc for scrims, not sure why people stopped using it in the first place

discord actually seems like a really good idea

it's a light client if you want to download it and you can even use it in browser

This. There have been multiple threads about this in the past. One common problem was that IRC wasn't really easy to use or as easily accessible to many players at that time or even this time. Tons of people of people don't understand it or want to have to download it or go through with it. There was a site though that let people in, but if I recall there was problems with it and I don't even recall what the url is even more for it. Now we are in 2015, where time to time IRC is becoming a bit less relevant as people tend to use other sorts of way for communication. Note that as time has passed in TF2 since we used IRC, the comp TF2 scene has gained much more people, more new people to be exact. Using the discord is one current way that can be used for easy access so new teams can use it without having to worry about IRC as much.

One way team leaders can use the discord is to use this form:
"[6s/HL]. [Division]. [CP/Koth Map]. [yours/our server]. @(your discord name) for contact."
That could be one way, or whatever else is important to add, like timezone or time to scrim for another time. Credits to Hassassin for the info on scrims.

discord is exactly what you're looking for if you want a modern irc. has persistent text channels, web or application based, voip if teams wish to use that (couple friends and I measured the latency to ~80 more than mumble which is minuscule for voip, nothing like in a game with constant input and is not going to be the reason you drop uber)

because you can have as many text channels as you want, no reason not to. "Europe Scrims" "NA Scrims"

Should probably include region too, or maybe just have different channels for different regions?

In Europe everyone already uses quake.net

I still use IRC daily but compared to discord its obsolete. No point trying to get people to use IRC when discord is available.

How do they do it in csgo, dota and lol?

faceit/esea/cevo have a scrim section in their client that works reasonably well
idk about dota/lol

care to explain?
to this day, i still think that irc is one of the most straightforward things to use

In my experience, many people struggle with the initial setup of IRC and the use of text commands. It's probably a little more involved than they are used to. Also, I think a lot of "How to setup IRC" tutorials are very lengthy/detailed, so there may be more perceived difficulty than actual difficulty.

That being said, people these days really just want to be able to put in a username and click a big green "Go" button. They don't want to worry about knowing commands or doing a bunch of extra stuff, which I think is totally fair. Simplicity is really nice.

Granted, there are clients for IRC that make it that simple. I like to use KiwiiIRC sometimes, it's pretty neat.