Usually, I am practically the least qualified person on this entire site to start a thread with such a lofty title.
However, an article I recently read gives a surprisingly clear explanation as to why some people can improve much more quickly than others with the same amount of practice. Looking back on the time I spent in TF2, I realized that most of the mistakes I was making could be traced back to a few bad habits that this article articulated how to fix very well.
The article is a bit on the long side but it is absolutely worth the read, especially if you're wondering why you're still stuck playing stagnantly in (division) after many seasons.
http://nautil.us/issue/35/boundaries/not-all-practice-makes-perfect
I'm curious what the community thinks of the model of practicing described in this article: did you think that, after reading it, you can improve faster than you were before? And to the more accomplished players here, would you say that it accurately describes how you got good?
Usually, I am practically the least qualified person on this entire site to start a thread with such a lofty title.
However, an article I recently read gives a surprisingly clear explanation as to why some people can improve much more quickly than others with the same amount of practice. Looking back on the time I spent in TF2, I realized that most of the mistakes I was making could be traced back to a few bad habits that this article articulated how to fix very well.
The article is a bit on the long side but it is absolutely worth the read, especially if you're wondering why you're still stuck playing stagnantly in (division) after many seasons.
http://nautil.us/issue/35/boundaries/not-all-practice-makes-perfect
I'm curious what the community thinks of the model of practicing described in this article: did you think that, after reading it, you can improve faster than you were before? And to the more accomplished players here, would you say that it accurately describes how you got good?
always try your hardest, examine what you did wrong and attempt to not repeat it, maintain a neutral mind. take a break when things go south
always try your hardest, examine what you did wrong and attempt to not repeat it, maintain a neutral mind. take a break when things go south
flufnJoin a team
Tangyyalways try your hardest, examine what you did wrong and attempt to not repeat it, maintain a neutral mind. take a break when things go south
did you guys even read his post
[quote=flufn]Join a team[/quote]
[quote=Tangyy]always try your hardest, examine what you did wrong and attempt to not repeat it, maintain a neutral mind. take a break when things go south[/quote]
did you guys even read his post
flufnJoin a team
Tangyyalways try your hardest, examine what you did wrong and attempt to not repeat it, maintain a neutral mind. take a break when things go south
idiots
[quote=flufn]Join a team[/quote]
[quote=Tangyy]always try your hardest, examine what you did wrong and attempt to not repeat it, maintain a neutral mind. take a break when things go south[/quote]
idiots
Yeah i read his post and the article, i was just adding my 2 cents to what I think could help people improve.
Yeah i read his post and the article, i was just adding my 2 cents to what I think could help people improve.
TangyyYeah i read his post and the article, i was just adding my 2 cents to what I think could help people improve.
thats not what the thread is about??
and i doubt you read the WHOLE article in 4 minutes zzz
[quote=Tangyy]Yeah i read his post and the article, i was just adding my 2 cents to what I think could help people improve.[/quote]
thats not what the thread is about??
and i doubt you read the WHOLE article in 4 minutes zzz
janedoeTangyyYeah i read his post and the article, i was just adding my 2 cents to what I think could help people improve.
thats not what the thread is about??
and i doubt you read the WHOLE article in 4 minutes zzz
I read it the other day, i thought it was pretty interesting as well. fine whatever, i was just trying to add a little bit of what I thought.
[quote=janedoe][quote=Tangyy]Yeah i read his post and the article, i was just adding my 2 cents to what I think could help people improve.[/quote]
thats not what the thread is about??
and i doubt you read the WHOLE article in 4 minutes zzz[/quote]
I read it the other day, i thought it was pretty interesting as well. fine whatever, i was just trying to add a little bit of what I thought.
You can sum the article up in tf2 terms with 'dont press the s key in dm'
You can sum the article up in tf2 terms with 'dont press the s key in dm'
yeah i think by and large competitive tf2 is too complicated of a game on a conceptual level to apply this kind of practice to, but this works really well to practice more specific, mechanical stuff, like rocket jumping (especially the hitting your stopping point, deloading, backing down and then trying to build up to your stopping point and break passed it again, that concept works really well in rocket jumping) or dm/mge (i'm gonna try to hit X airshots this round, i'm gonna try to approach more of X class this round)
yeah i think by and large competitive tf2 is too complicated of a game on a conceptual level to apply this kind of practice to, but this works really well to practice more specific, mechanical stuff, like rocket jumping (especially the hitting your stopping point, deloading, backing down and then trying to build up to your stopping point and break passed it again, that concept works really well in rocket jumping) or dm/mge (i'm gonna try to hit X airshots this round, i'm gonna try to approach more of X class this round)
Don't forget to add that you need to win lan to be good.
Don't forget to add that you need to win lan to be good.
never fucking listen to anything b4nny tells you to.
never fucking listen to anything b4nny tells you to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJA7OPX5CI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJFdVIeHb0
very relevant to thread title/great channel overall
i think the article is good. it's certainly true that repeated affirmation helps you to feel confident in where you're at - another step in the ladder so to speak - and a huge factor of pretty much any challenge is mental.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJA7OPX5CI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJFdVIeHb0
very relevant to thread title/great channel overall
i think the article is good. it's certainly true that repeated affirmation helps you to feel confident in where you're at - another step in the ladder so to speak - and a huge factor of pretty much any challenge is mental.
holoferneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJA7OPX5CI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJFdVIeHb0
very relevant to thread title/great channel overall
Similarly, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QywhTDUrX-0 - mostly the first topic, although the whole video is very well said.
[quote=holofernes]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJA7OPX5CI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJFdVIeHb0
very relevant to thread title/great channel overall[/quote]
Similarly, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QywhTDUrX-0 - mostly the first topic, although the whole video is very well said.
http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4174&title=eg-chances-quake-bible
I know that the point of some sciences is often to offer hard proof on something that seems obvious, but holy shit that article had way too much build up for the whole point to be what probably a majority of people think is "good practice".
I know that the point of some sciences is often to offer hard proof on something that seems obvious, but holy shit that article had way too much build up for the whole point to be what probably a majority of people think is "good practice".
holoferneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJA7OPX5CI
That's some Lamarckism there, I think, that's not how evolution works. The overall message of the videos is good tho
[quote=holofernes]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJA7OPX5CI
[/quote]
That's some Lamarckism there, I think, that's not how evolution works. The overall message of the videos is good tho
-Salnever fucking listen to anything b4nny tells you to.
otherwise you might end up around his level.
[quote=-Sal]never fucking listen to anything b4nny tells you to.[/quote]
otherwise you might end up around his level.
basket-Salnever fucking listen to anything b4nny tells you to.
otherwise you might end up around his level.
you mean sodium content level right
[quote=basket][quote=-Sal]never fucking listen to anything b4nny tells you to.[/quote]
otherwise you might end up around his level.[/quote]
you mean sodium content level right
really fascinating article. thanks for sharing!
really fascinating article. thanks for sharing!
Nice to see that youre alive Iso. Log on steam sometime, I havent heard from you in forever.
Nice to see that youre alive Iso. Log on steam sometime, I havent heard from you in forever.
vaniNice to see that youre alive Iso. Log on steam sometime, I havent heard from you in forever.
Yah I agree with fanny, I miss you Iso
[quote=vani]Nice to see that youre alive Iso. Log on steam sometime, I havent heard from you in forever.[/quote]
Yah I agree with fanny, I miss you Iso
Did anyone else think of this while reading the article?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Did anyone else think of this while reading the article?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs[/youtube]
[quote=holofernes]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJA7OPX5CI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJFdVIeHb0[/quote]
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LamarckWasRight
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3mmwI6lhy8[/youtube]
This carries over to TF2 pretty evidently.
Lots of Quake content creators do really good videos on this stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkMoNGx3weU
Lots of Quake content creators do really good videos on this stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkMoNGx3weU
skeejhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3mmwI6lhy8
twister's videos are actually the best
[quote=skeej]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3mmwI6lhy8[/quote]
twister's videos are actually the best
This reminds me of when I used to teach people how to slowly build their aim in MGE and then transition into DM.
This reminds me of when I used to teach people how to slowly build their aim in MGE and then transition into DM.
ErenJayhttp://www.iamgaming.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4174&title=eg-chances-quake-bible
Any time a gap occurs in our intellect we immediately fill it with the most easily
accessibly and most seemingly obvious reason, and if there is no obvious
reason... we invent one! Creating a solution to fill the gap works well on a short
term scale to alleviate a problem with the best solution we can come up with off
hand, but eventually if the player leaves it unchecked his game's foundation is
liable to become almost superstitious. Many times rather than filling the gaps with
a logical guess to what may have happened players fill it with any answer that
most conveniently protects their ego. Anger is likely indicative of the player trying
to defend his sense of strength that he feels he is losing by being punished.
Players that get stuck in ego will perpetually blame some inauspicious aspect of
the game, continue letting problems chain together by answering them
baselessly, and thus continue to be on the receiving end of the next fragger.
"I hate idiots"
[quote=ErenJay]http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4174&title=eg-chances-quake-bible[/quote]
[quote]Any time a gap occurs in our intellect we immediately fill it with the most easily
accessibly and most seemingly obvious reason, and if there is no obvious
reason... we invent one! Creating a solution to fill the gap works well on a short
term scale to alleviate a problem with the best solution we can come up with off
hand, but eventually if the player leaves it unchecked his game's foundation is
liable to become almost superstitious. Many times rather than filling the gaps with
a logical guess to what may have happened players fill it with any answer that
most conveniently protects their ego. Anger is likely indicative of the player trying
to defend his sense of strength that he feels he is losing by being punished.
Players that get stuck in ego will perpetually blame some inauspicious aspect of
the game, continue letting problems chain together by answering them
baselessly, and thus continue to be on the receiving end of the next fragger.[/quote]
"I hate idiots"
this isn't broad enough to relate to something with so many variables like a fps
this isn't broad enough to relate to something with so many variables like a fps