and what do you want me to do about that
Unprofessional behavior from ESEA admin
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Wu tang clan aint nuthin to fuck wit. That is all.
Wu tang clan aint nuthin to fuck wit. That is all.
Lets blame killing for ESEA's shitty system.
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Lets blame killing for ESEA's shitty system.
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Just to clarify, we will be trying our best to reschedule because at this point there's nothing we can do about it; however, it seems that there's either an error in the system, clarity of rules, both, or something else that I cannot think of that needs to be addressed for future reference because I do feel like it is a mistreatment, or rather punishment, of the punctual team and a reward to the late team after a week of careful scheduling around a date. Whether people agree or disagree with whether it should have been a forfeit is irrelevant at this point but I do feel like some change should be made so that similar situations can be avoided in the future.
Just to clarify, we will be trying our best to reschedule because at this point there's nothing we can do about it; however, it seems that there's either an error in the system, clarity of rules, both, or something else that I cannot think of that needs to be addressed for future reference because I do feel like it is a mistreatment, or rather punishment, of the punctual team and a reward to the late team after a week of careful scheduling around a date. Whether people agree or disagree with whether it should have been a forfeit is irrelevant at this point but I do feel like some change should be made so that similar situations can be avoided in the future.
ehFkLets blame killing for ESEA's shitty system.
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[quote=ehFk]Lets blame killing for ESEA's shitty system.
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ScrewballKhakiWhile I agree that it's pretty gay Killing's trying to threaten your team with a ffw if you aren't able to reschedule, I think you should probably be a little more flexible as far as scheduling goes, like 9 out of every ten games turns into a 5v6 or ffw because people don't understand how to schedule properly or something gay happens and a team isn't able to field 6 players at the last moment.Then that is there problem. Teams that are on time and following the rules as written shouldn't be punished because another team cant field 6 on time.
sorry brah your internet problem
[quote=Screwball][quote=Khaki]
While I agree that it's pretty gay Killing's trying to threaten your team with a ffw if you aren't able to reschedule, I think you should probably be a little more flexible as far as scheduling goes, like 9 out of every ten games turns into a 5v6 or ffw because people don't understand how to schedule properly or something gay happens and a team isn't able to field 6 players at the last moment.[/quote]
Then that is there problem. Teams that are on time and following the rules as written shouldn't be punished because another team cant field 6 on time.[/quote]
sorry brah your internet problem
While I agree that it's pretty gay Killing's trying to threaten your team with a ffw if you aren't able to reschedule, I think you should probably be a little more flexible as far as scheduling goes, like 9 out of every ten games turns into a 5v6 or ffw because people don't understand how to schedule properly or something gay happens and a team isn't able to field 6 players at the last moment.[/quote]
Then that is there problem. Teams that are on time and following the rules as written shouldn't be punished because another team cant field 6 on time.[/quote]
sorry brah your internet problem
Why isn't it written in the rules that after 30 minutes the client won't let teams ffw. I'm not sure how a random Open team is supposed to know that when its not written anywhere.
Why isn't it written in the rules that after 30 minutes the client won't let teams ffw. I'm not sure how a random Open team is supposed to know that when its not written anywhere.
Can we fix the "We where"s to "We were" from now on
Also: That sucks since I would have never known about the whole can't .start after 30 min
Can we fix the "We where"s to "We were" from now on
Also: That sucks since I would have never known about the whole can't .start after 30 min
Also: That sucks since I would have never known about the whole can't .start after 30 min
bind "kp_pgup" "say Killing in the Name #esea: I am the rules"
bind "kp_pgup" "say Killing in the Name #esea: I am the rules"
this happened a few seasons ago on team bad v2 and it wasnt overturn so killing isn't being entirely consistent with his actions here
this happened a few seasons ago on team bad v2 and it wasnt overturn so killing isn't being entirely consistent with his actions here
http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=2265056
http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=2265056
So all I got out of this is "killing is making us play a league match that we paid for but I would rather not get my moneys worth"
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.
So all I got out of this is "killing is making us play a league match that we paid for but I would rather not get my moneys worth"
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.
Also get a new medic, since he obviously can't play next weeks matches either. Can't have him making up stories to his boss twice a week
Also get a new medic, since he obviously can't play next weeks matches either. Can't have him making up stories to his boss twice a week
eulogy_So all I got out of this is "killing is making us play a league match that we paid for but I would rather not get my moneys worth"
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.
Nah, not at all. We wanted to play the match. We just can't. We had that time frame to play the match. On that day. There are no other options. So by them being 45 minutes late, and due to our generosity in allowing them an extra 30 minutes, now WE are going to receive the forfeit loss. On the server 15 minutes early, I lied to my boss to play the match on that date at that time, left work for an hour and half for it. Then they kept giving us excuses, "one of our players was hit by a bus". We tried to wait as long as possible to report a ffw. And because we did that, now we're going to take a forfeit loss.
And apparently killing isn't exactly consistent with his rulings in the past...
[quote=eulogy_]So all I got out of this is "killing is making us play a league match that we paid for but I would rather not get my moneys worth"
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.[/quote]
Nah, not at all. We wanted to play the match. We just can't. We had that time frame to play the match. On that day. There are no other options. So by them being 45 minutes late, and due to our generosity in allowing them an extra 30 minutes, now WE are going to receive the forfeit loss. On the server 15 minutes early, I lied to my boss to play the match on that date at that time, left work for an hour and half for it. Then they kept giving us excuses, "one of our players was hit by a bus". We tried to wait as long as possible to report a ffw. And because we did that, now we're going to take a forfeit loss.
And apparently killing isn't exactly consistent with his rulings in the past...
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.[/quote]
Nah, not at all. We wanted to play the match. We just can't. We had that time frame to play the match. On that day. There are no other options. So by them being 45 minutes late, and due to our generosity in allowing them an extra 30 minutes, now WE are going to receive the forfeit loss. On the server 15 minutes early, I lied to my boss to play the match on that date at that time, left work for an hour and half for it. Then they kept giving us excuses, "one of our players was hit by a bus". We tried to wait as long as possible to report a ffw. And because we did that, now we're going to take a forfeit loss.
And apparently killing isn't exactly consistent with his rulings in the past...
eulogy_So all I got out of this is "killing is making us play a league match that we paid for but I would rather not get my moneys worth"
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.
We dont have the time to play it again. If ESEA wants to give me my moneys worth they can fix their shitty client, fix their shitty servers, clarify their rules, force the admins to enforce the rules AS WRITTEN. I have played in 5 different TF2 leagues and i have never had to deal with anywhere close to the amount of BS i have dealt with from ESEA and I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. Their client constantly breaks. Their servers lag and stutter all the time (haven't played a single match this season where this didn't happen at least once). ESEA will NOT be getting any more of my money until they fix there shit.
I am sick of paying ridicules amounts of money to play in a league that is run worse then community run FREE projects.
[quote=eulogy_]So all I got out of this is "killing is making us play a league match that we paid for but I would rather not get my moneys worth"
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.[/quote]
We dont have the time to play it again. If ESEA wants to give me my moneys worth they can fix their shitty client, fix their shitty servers, clarify their rules, force the admins to enforce the rules AS WRITTEN. I have played in 5 different TF2 leagues and i have never had to deal with anywhere close to the amount of BS i have dealt with from ESEA and I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. Their client constantly breaks. Their servers lag and stutter all the time (haven't played a single match this season where this didn't happen at least once). ESEA will NOT be getting any more of my money until they fix there shit.
I am sick of paying ridicules amounts of money to play in a league that is run worse then community run FREE projects.
Give them our ffw and we will find time to play by Thursday.[/quote]
We dont have the time to play it again. If ESEA wants to give me my moneys worth they can fix their shitty client, fix their shitty servers, clarify their rules, force the admins to enforce the rules AS WRITTEN. I have played in 5 different TF2 leagues and i have never had to deal with anywhere close to the amount of BS i have dealt with from ESEA and I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. Their client constantly breaks. Their servers lag and stutter all the time (haven't played a single match this season where this didn't happen at least once). ESEA will NOT be getting any more of my money until they fix there shit.
I am sick of paying ridicules amounts of money to play in a league that is run worse then community run FREE projects.
SnazNah, not at all. We wanted to play the match. We just can't. We had that time frame to play the match. On that day. There are no other options. So by them being 45 minutes late, and due to our generosity in allowing them an extra 30 minutes, now WE are going to receive the forfeit loss. On the server 15 minutes early, I lied to my boss to play the match on that date at that time, left work for an hour and half for it. Then they kept giving us excuses, "one of our players was hit by a bus". We tried to wait as long as possible to report a ffw. And because we did that, now we're going to take a forfeit loss.
And apparently killing isn't exactly consistent with his rulings in the past...
. <--- my tiny violin, would u like a song?
[quote=Snaz]
Nah, not at all. We wanted to play the match. We just can't. We had that time frame to play the match. On that day. There are no other options. So by them being 45 minutes late, and due to our generosity in allowing them an extra 30 minutes, now WE are going to receive the forfeit loss. On the server 15 minutes early, I lied to my boss to play the match on that date at that time, left work for an hour and half for it. Then they kept giving us excuses, "one of our players was hit by a bus". We tried to wait as long as possible to report a ffw. And because we did that, now we're going to take a forfeit loss.
And apparently killing isn't exactly consistent with his rulings in the past...[/quote]
. <--- my tiny violin, would u like a song?
Nah, not at all. We wanted to play the match. We just can't. We had that time frame to play the match. On that day. There are no other options. So by them being 45 minutes late, and due to our generosity in allowing them an extra 30 minutes, now WE are going to receive the forfeit loss. On the server 15 minutes early, I lied to my boss to play the match on that date at that time, left work for an hour and half for it. Then they kept giving us excuses, "one of our players was hit by a bus". We tried to wait as long as possible to report a ffw. And because we did that, now we're going to take a forfeit loss.
And apparently killing isn't exactly consistent with his rulings in the past...[/quote]
. <--- my tiny violin, would u like a song?
it's making me real mad how you're using the wrong form of their in your post there
it's making me real mad how you're using the wrong form of their in your post there
So let me get this straight:
-Team A decided to be overly nice to Team B because Team B obviously could not field 5 even after agreeing to the start time.
-Team A then proceeds to report the FFL and can't because a rule (quite possibly the dumbest rule I've ever heard of), which does not even state that you can not report a FFL/W after 30 minutes of the scheduled start time.
-Both Teams are now being forced to replay a game that they are having a horrible time finding time to play because of something that is not stated anywhere in the rules.
This is neither Team A's nor Team B's fault. This is ESEA's fault entirely. If it is true that no where in the rules it is stated that you are UNABLE to report a FF after 30 minutes of the scheduled start time, then that is entirely ESEA's fault for their rules not cooperating properly with their reporting system they have in place.
Well...I'm done here.
So let me get this straight:
-Team A decided to be overly nice to Team B because Team B obviously could not field 5 even after agreeing to the start time.
-Team A then proceeds to report the FFL and can't because a rule (quite possibly the dumbest rule I've ever heard of), which does not even state that you can not report a FFL/W after 30 minutes of the scheduled start time.
-Both Teams are now being forced to replay a game that they are having a horrible time finding time to play because of something that is not stated anywhere in the rules.
This is neither Team A's nor Team B's fault. This is ESEA's fault entirely. If it is true that no where in the rules it is stated that you are UNABLE to report a FF after 30 minutes of the scheduled start time, then that is entirely ESEA's fault for their rules not cooperating properly with their reporting system they have in place.
Well...I'm done here.
-Team A decided to be overly nice to Team B because Team B obviously could not field 5 even after agreeing to the start time.
-Team A then proceeds to report the FFL and can't because a rule (quite possibly the dumbest rule I've ever heard of), which does not even state that you can not report a FFL/W after 30 minutes of the scheduled start time.
-Both Teams are now being forced to replay a game that they are having a horrible time finding time to play because of something that is not stated anywhere in the rules.
This is neither Team A's nor Team B's fault. This is ESEA's fault entirely. If it is true that no where in the rules it is stated that you are UNABLE to report a FF after 30 minutes of the scheduled start time, then that is entirely ESEA's fault for their rules not cooperating properly with their reporting system they have in place.
Well...I'm done here.
It's ESEA's fault, but honestly Screwball's team should have just gotten a FFW or given them a "technical" win so that other team doesn't get a FFL, since you probably aren't winning 5v6. It's happened before when teams get 6 past the 30 minute allocated time and both teams have to call an admin to get another server allocated for them to play.
It's ESEA's fault, but honestly Screwball's team should have just gotten a FFW or given them a "technical" win so that other team doesn't get a FFL, since you probably aren't winning 5v6. It's happened before when teams get 6 past the 30 minute allocated time and both teams have to call an admin to get another server allocated for them to play.
"Noodles" are frustrating some (if not all) teams with their neglect to schedule. And not limited to that.
If you need rescheduling, expect no response. Their leader/scheduler isn't even available. Nor do they accept steam friend requests. The rest of the team doesn't sign on until the day of the match to respond.
If you guys can't reschedule, I'll be more than glad to award my noodle is moist the ffw. Start working with the other team.
wow. I mean...wow.
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"Noodles" are frustrating some (if not all) teams with their neglect to schedule. And not limited to that.
If you need rescheduling, expect no response. Their leader/scheduler isn't even available. Nor do they accept steam friend requests. The rest of the team doesn't sign on until the day of the match to respond.
[quote]If [i]you guys can't reschedule[/i], I'll be more than glad to award my noodle is moist the ffw. [i]Start [b]working [u]with the other team[/u].[/b][/i][/quote]
wow. I mean...wow.
/rant
If you need rescheduling, expect no response. Their leader/scheduler isn't even available. Nor do they accept steam friend requests. The rest of the team doesn't sign on until the day of the match to respond.
[quote]If [i]you guys can't reschedule[/i], I'll be more than glad to award my noodle is moist the ffw. [i]Start [b]working [u]with the other team[/u].[/b][/i][/quote]
wow. I mean...wow.
/rant
This thread really is indicative of the doggie dog world we live in. I'll treasure it as a diamond dozen.
This thread really is indicative of the doggie dog world we live in. I'll treasure it as a diamond dozen.
why would you rather get a ffw then play? thats kinda weird
why would you rather get a ffw then play? thats kinda weird
Boshwhy would you rather get a ffw then play? thats kinda weird
We don't want a forfeit win instead of playing.
[quote=Bosh]why would you rather get a ffw then play? thats kinda weird[/quote]
We don't want a forfeit win instead of playing.
We don't want a forfeit win instead of playing.
im working on getting leader to the team so that this doesnt happen anymore
im working on getting leader to the team so that this doesnt happen anymore
jp_"Noodles" are frustrating some (if not all) teams with their neglect to schedule. And not limited to that.
If you need rescheduling, expect no response. Their leader/scheduler isn't even available. Nor do they accept steam friend requests. The rest of the team doesn't sign on until the day of the match to respond.
If you guys can't reschedule, I'll be more than glad to award my noodle is moist the ffw. Start working with the other team.wow. I mean...wow.
/rant
earlier in the season this was true, i didn't check match comms at all and our leader didn't either. the past 2 weeks though i've been checking at least every other day now that my schedule is tighter. i apologize to any team that may be upset over a simple noodle problem
[quote=jp_]"Noodles" are frustrating some (if not all) teams with their neglect to schedule. And not limited to that.
If you need rescheduling, expect no response. Their leader/scheduler isn't even available. Nor do they accept steam friend requests. The rest of the team doesn't sign on until the day of the match to respond.
[quote]If [i]you guys can't reschedule[/i], I'll be more than glad to award my noodle is moist the ffw. [i]Start [b]working [u]with the other team[/u].[/b][/i][/quote]
wow. I mean...wow.
/rant[/quote]
earlier in the season this was true, i didn't check match comms at all and our leader didn't either. the past 2 weeks though i've been checking at least every other day now that my schedule is tighter. i apologize to any team that may be upset over a simple noodle problem
If you need rescheduling, expect no response. Their leader/scheduler isn't even available. Nor do they accept steam friend requests. The rest of the team doesn't sign on until the day of the match to respond.
[quote]If [i]you guys can't reschedule[/i], I'll be more than glad to award my noodle is moist the ffw. [i]Start [b]working [u]with the other team[/u].[/b][/i][/quote]
wow. I mean...wow.
/rant[/quote]
earlier in the season this was true, i didn't check match comms at all and our leader didn't either. the past 2 weeks though i've been checking at least every other day now that my schedule is tighter. i apologize to any team that may be upset over a simple noodle problem
Killing in the Name #esea: listen
Killing in the Name #esea: you have to replay
this was pretty funny, aha.
Killing in the Name #esea: listen
Killing in the Name #esea: you have to replay
this was pretty funny, aha.
Killing in the Name #esea: you have to replay
this was pretty funny, aha.
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