My guess is the pick-ban system is what caught Valve's attention. Didn't Robin Walker suggest that back when he worked on TF2?
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My guess is the pick-ban system is what caught Valve's attention. Didn't Robin Walker suggest that back when he worked on TF2?
KerchMy guess is the pick-ban system is what caught Valve's attention. Didn't Robin Walker suggest that back when he worked on TF2?
the thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it
[quote=Kerch]My guess is the pick-ban system is what caught Valve's attention. Didn't Robin Walker suggest that back when he worked on TF2?[/quote]
the thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it
the thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it
Contrathe thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it
Arena respawn also had class bans (instead of just item bans) and a non-standard game mode, which may have put them off.
[quote=Contra]
the thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it[/quote]
Arena respawn also had class bans (instead of just item bans) and a non-standard game mode, which may have put them off.
the thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it[/quote]
Arena respawn also had class bans (instead of just item bans) and a non-standard game mode, which may have put them off.
KerchContrathe thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it
Arena respawn also had class bans (instead of just item bans) and a non-standard game mode, which may have put them off.
that could be why, but unfortunately our option is just to theorycraft because valve won't tell us what they have and haven't looked at, what they specifically want or don't want out of a competitive format, and what feedback they're willing to actually use to improve
it's honestly infuriating to have a company that's ignored our scene for this long come in now, pretend they care now, and still refuse to change their shit competitive mode and highlight this travesty of a challenge cup while not giving us a peep of actual feedback
[quote=Kerch][quote=Contra]
the thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it[/quote]
Arena respawn also had class bans (instead of just item bans) and a non-standard game mode, which may have put them off.[/quote]
that could be why, but unfortunately our option is just to theorycraft because valve won't tell us what they have and haven't looked at, what they specifically want or don't want out of a competitive format, and what feedback they're willing to actually use to improve
it's honestly infuriating to have a company that's ignored our scene for this long come in now, pretend they care now, and still refuse to change their shit competitive mode and highlight this travesty of a challenge cup while not giving us a peep of actual feedback
the thing is we already did that (arena respawn is a recent example that comes to mind) and they paid no attention to it[/quote]
Arena respawn also had class bans (instead of just item bans) and a non-standard game mode, which may have put them off.[/quote]
that could be why, but unfortunately our option is just to theorycraft because valve won't tell us what they have and haven't looked at, what they specifically want or don't want out of a competitive format, and what feedback they're willing to actually use to improve
it's honestly infuriating to have a company that's ignored our scene for this long come in now, pretend they care now, and still refuse to change their shit competitive mode and highlight this travesty of a challenge cup while not giving us a peep of actual feedback
i'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion
i'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion
Menachemi'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion
Or
It could mean Valve just likes to watch Sigafoo's stream, which they have said as much when he went to their HQ.
[quote=Menachem]i'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion[/quote]
Or
It could mean Valve just likes to watch Sigafoo's stream, which they have said as much when he went to their HQ.
Or
It could mean Valve just likes to watch Sigafoo's stream, which they have said as much when he went to their HQ.
DoctorMiggyMenachemi'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion
Or
It could mean Valve just likes to watch Sigafoo's stream, which they have said as much when he went to their HQ.
sure that might be true. then they value them equally because they just like sigafoo. doesnt change the fact they put exactly the same amount of effort into promoting invite finals as they did this
[quote=DoctorMiggy][quote=Menachem]i'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion[/quote]
Or
It could mean Valve just likes to watch Sigafoo's stream, which they have said as much when he went to their HQ.[/quote]
sure that might be true. then they value them equally because they just like sigafoo. doesnt change the fact they put exactly the same amount of effort into promoting invite finals as they did this
Or
It could mean Valve just likes to watch Sigafoo's stream, which they have said as much when he went to their HQ.[/quote]
sure that might be true. then they value them equally because they just like sigafoo. doesnt change the fact they put exactly the same amount of effort into promoting invite finals as they did this
Menachemthey put exactly the same amount of effort
You're making it sound like it's more than just a 15 second task
[quote=Menachem]
they put exactly the same amount of effort[/quote]
You're making it sound like it's more than just a 15 second task
they put exactly the same amount of effort[/quote]
You're making it sound like it's more than just a 15 second task
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From stream chat
This guy didn't stop fanboying during the whole stream
[quote=smitty_]http://i.imgur.com/luZmLEY.png
From stream chat[/quote]
This guy didn't stop fanboying during the whole stream
From stream chat[/quote]
This guy didn't stop fanboying during the whole stream
smitty_http://i.imgur.com/luZmLEY.png
From stream chat
is it wrong for me to think that this tournament is being detrimental to competitive tf2 by giving people wrong ideas of what competitive tf2 should be?
[quote=smitty_]http://i.imgur.com/luZmLEY.png
From stream chat[/quote]
is it wrong for me to think that this tournament is being detrimental to competitive tf2 by giving people wrong ideas of what competitive tf2 should be?
From stream chat[/quote]
is it wrong for me to think that this tournament is being detrimental to competitive tf2 by giving people wrong ideas of what competitive tf2 should be?
Lonsforis it wrong for me to think that this tournament is being detrimental to competitive tf2 by giving people wrong ideas of what competitive tf2 should be?
It's worse by the fact Valve has pointed players in TF2 to it like it's an officially Valve-sanctioned Valve-supported tournament. Imagine a new player booting up the game for the first time, sees the system message, then goes to the stream to see the 7v7 garbage format and taking it as TF2 competitive mode.
[quote=Lonsfor]is it wrong for me to think that this tournament is being detrimental to competitive tf2 by giving people wrong ideas of what competitive tf2 should be?[/quote]
It's worse by the fact Valve has pointed players in TF2 to it like it's an officially Valve-sanctioned Valve-supported tournament. Imagine a new player booting up the game for the first time, sees the system message, then goes to the stream to see the 7v7 garbage format and taking it as TF2 competitive mode.
It's worse by the fact Valve has pointed players in TF2 to it like it's an officially Valve-sanctioned Valve-supported tournament. Imagine a new player booting up the game for the first time, sees the system message, then goes to the stream to see the 7v7 garbage format and taking it as TF2 competitive mode.
[quote=Taat]I was only pretending[/quote]
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Yes, that is what I was referencing
[quote=DishSoap][quote=Taat]I was only pretending[/quote]
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HOLD THAT L[/quote]
Yes, that [i]is[/i] what I was referencing
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HOLD THAT L[/quote]
Yes, that [i]is[/i] what I was referencing
Menachemi'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion
And more valuable than ETF2L finals.
But then again this probably means Valve will advertise the FACEIT tourney as well if they are announcing this thing.
[quote=Menachem]i'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion[/quote]
And more valuable than ETF2L finals.
But then again this probably means Valve will advertise the FACEIT tourney as well if they are announcing this thing.
And more valuable than ETF2L finals.
But then again this probably means Valve will advertise the FACEIT tourney as well if they are announcing this thing.
cnsmMenachemi'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinionAnd more valuable than ETF2L finals.
it's actually sad when you think about it like that wtf valve
[quote=cnsm][quote=Menachem]i'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion[/quote]
And more valuable than ETF2L finals.
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it's actually sad when you think about it like that wtf valve
And more valuable than ETF2L finals.
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it's actually sad when you think about it like that wtf valve
balticnsmit's actually sad when you think about it like that wtf valveMenachemi'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinionAnd more valuable than ETF2L finals.
but this tournament is OBJECTIVELY more valuable than etf2l finals in terms of prize money available
it should be very clear to you what the key to getting valve's attention is
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hint: it isn't 50 page long threads about weapon bans
[quote=balti][quote=cnsm][quote=Menachem]i'd like to point out that the system message this tournament received means that this cup is equal in value to invite finals in Valve's opinion[/quote]
And more valuable than ETF2L finals.
[/quote]
it's actually sad when you think about it like that wtf valve[/quote]
but this tournament is OBJECTIVELY more valuable than etf2l finals in terms of prize money available
it should be very clear to you what the key to getting valve's attention is
[spoiler]hint: it isn't 50 page long threads about weapon bans[/spoiler]
And more valuable than ETF2L finals.
[/quote]
it's actually sad when you think about it like that wtf valve[/quote]
but this tournament is OBJECTIVELY more valuable than etf2l finals in terms of prize money available
it should be very clear to you what the key to getting valve's attention is
[spoiler]hint: it isn't 50 page long threads about weapon bans[/spoiler]
manskirt just wasting 2500 on a shitty tournament instead of something actually useful.
I didn't notice this post before but this statement really annoys me on a personal level. I've ran 3 events (2 of them containing 6s) in the last few years and most of the community generally didn't care. So please don't act all offended when someone runs an online event that's different from the norm and pretend like the end of the world is happening. Where was all this potential support when I was trying to fill up lans? They were dismissed as community lans and not taken seriously despite all my efforts to get more high level players there so it WOULD be taken seriously.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for the turn out at the each event and I've had a blast at all of them, and I will keep doing them (C U 2017). But I always felt like they could have been MORE had the competitive community been accepting of the events.
[quote=manskirt] just wasting 2500 on a shitty tournament instead of something actually useful.[/quote]
I didn't notice this post before but this statement really annoys me on a personal level. I've ran 3 events (2 of them containing 6s) in the last few years and most of the community generally didn't care. So please don't act all offended when someone runs an online event that's different from the norm and pretend like the end of the world is happening. Where was all this potential support when I was trying to fill up lans? They were dismissed as community lans and not taken seriously despite all my efforts to get more high level players there so it WOULD be taken seriously.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for the turn out at the each event and I've had a blast at all of them, and I will keep doing them (C U 2017). But I always felt like they could have been MORE had the competitive community been accepting of the events.
I didn't notice this post before but this statement really annoys me on a personal level. I've ran 3 events (2 of them containing 6s) in the last few years and most of the community generally didn't care. So please don't act all offended when someone runs an online event that's different from the norm and pretend like the end of the world is happening. Where was all this potential support when I was trying to fill up lans? They were dismissed as community lans and not taken seriously despite all my efforts to get more high level players there so it WOULD be taken seriously.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for the turn out at the each event and I've had a blast at all of them, and I will keep doing them (C U 2017). But I always felt like they could have been MORE had the competitive community been accepting of the events.
this was a retarded idea when it was 6v6 changing the playercount doesn't make any fucking difference
it doesn't matter sigafoo is an idiot who wants his portable aimbot to be viable at high levels so he doesn't have to learn how to aim but it's never going to happen
this was a retarded idea when it was 6v6 changing the playercount doesn't make any fucking difference
it doesn't matter sigafoo is an idiot who wants his portable aimbot to be viable at high levels so he doesn't have to learn how to aim but it's never going to happen
it doesn't matter sigafoo is an idiot who wants his portable aimbot to be viable at high levels so he doesn't have to learn how to aim but it's never going to happen
feint hype carried his team against b4nny spy is obvsly viable
feint hype carried his team against b4nny spy is obvsly viable
XenThePybrofeint hype carried his team against b4nny spy is obvsly viable
http://logs.tf/1566619#76561197970669109
Yeah dude look at feint going NUTS
[quote=XenThePybro]feint hype carried his team against b4nny spy is obvsly viable[/quote]
http://logs.tf/1566619#76561197970669109
Yeah dude look at feint going NUTS
http://logs.tf/1566619#76561197970669109
Yeah dude look at feint going NUTS
I can't wait to see the data and results that sigafoo has gathered from this "experiment".
I can't wait to see the data and results that sigafoo has gathered from this "experiment".
tfw this gets an in game announcement and ozfortress finals still dont
tfw this gets an in game announcement and ozfortress finals still dont
MagikarpI can't wait to see the data and results that sigafoo has gathered from this "experiment".
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/bd/bd07286e6d506f94d6d2e322917d58b8520629417b763aa1c6d364a11a7c14fb.jpg
[quote=Magikarp]I can't wait to see the data and results that sigafoo has gathered from this "experiment".[/quote]
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/bd/bd07286e6d506f94d6d2e322917d58b8520629417b763aa1c6d364a11a7c14fb.jpg
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/bd/bd07286e6d506f94d6d2e322917d58b8520629417b763aa1c6d364a11a7c14fb.jpg
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