u r fucking dumb

u telling me piss can't leak under than shutter door

i can see under it ffs

yeah it instantly leaks 6 feet forwards and you cant see it coming just like irl

also the bottom of the shutter door seals it from leaks

make shutter great again

tis oen time i hit jarte on medic and then raommer jump and drop uber it overpwoered

i love science i once got a B in biology (i didnt want an A so i could keep the alliteration, its more impressive) this is not an accurate science expirement i need camera angles from outside the door. for all i know there could have been another person throwing jarate on him out side of camera view then disapearing really quick when you opened the door to show the jarate on him. call me a skeptic but i wouldnt be surprised considering malaysia arline mh-370

Vringgggggggggggggg VRUMMM

How did they maake toast before toasters were invented?

pisssss

shounic

yeah whats the story behind shounic is he like a hardcore b4nny sub that turned into his personal assistant??

On the topic of banning things
Can we ban the crossbow until there's a single downside to using it over needles

Shounic was Asia's greatest meme and now he's gone international. He used to be the head administrator of AsiaFortress but moved away.

Makes me proud to see an Asian in the big leagues.

we were all set to ban jarate and then the euro admins wouldnt do it idk what happened

do you actually think there's going to be a significant buff to needles overnight that would make it better than or equal to the crossbow

i don't disagree that the crossbow is pretty retarded now, but even when people were using needles over the crossbow, there was still no true reason to use it over the crossbow. you could have always healed your teammates (some patches it healed less, but it was still good). despite being better than the needles, i don't really see a reason to ban it, because it only adds more entertainment to medic (while also helping soldiers more than any other class get healed up quickly).

a decent change would be to make it not build uber FASTER than the medigun. there really doesn't need to be an explanation as to why arrow building shouldn't be a thing.

as far as the healing goes, it was honestly a really cool concept to add to medic, but the way it's played out is a bit stupid. hitting arrows on your teammates in a fight to win your team a push/round is pretty clutch. that should never be changed. however, the fact that you can just hide behind a wall and stand still for an arrow is pretty retarded. it would be an interesting idea if arrows did less healing the longer a teammate were standing still. i don't think anything in that sense really needs to be changed though, because again, for one reason, when you think about it, soldiers indirectly get nerfed (especially on mid fights).

AS FAR AS JARATE GOES,
i seriously don't understand why it's allowed. it's literally free damage, because it's INCREDIBLY easy to hit a jarate. consequently, it's not fun to play against, and it's not even fun to use.

i just want to use my smg...................

You're an idiot...

Can You Elaborate . . .

Valve has gone too far this time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxMRHKn6FzU

this is a bug so technically the jarate should be banned right?

The crossbow still saw usage before it got buffed. The tradeoff between the long distance heals and the ability to defend yourself with needles honestly played out fine. The passive reload and uber building is a little bit ridiculous.

To be fair - I only have this opinion so that bad medics will never be tempted to take out the xbow and just end up not healing anything. But the degree of distinction between their viability is kind of silly. It wasn't that bad the way it was originally.

no i think there should be a significant nerf to the crossbow to not make it a direct upgrade
theres no reason why the xbow should have passive reload and valve should make the ammo count lower so you can't just spam it over and over again
before the xbow got nerfed not every single medics were using it, now there's not a single medic who isn't using the xbow because there's no reason to not run it

the gameplay downside of the crossbow against a team that uses it effectively is that it GREATLY closes the window in which you can push off of a damage advantage

if you hit a pocket soldier for 199 damage, you used to be able to push off of that with the knowledge that the pocket would have to back off and not participate in the fight, or eat the beam for the next 10 seconds to get back to operational health

now, that type of advantage doesnt exist, because that soldier can get an arrow and immediately return to fighting

i really hate proposing hypothetical changes for weapons because its completely pointless, but the real issue of the weapon to me is that a CLOSE RANGE arrow, even from inside the mediguns range, heals for such an absurd amount, that if a combo is properly coordinated in terms of lining up the arrow, theres absolutely no point in not using it instead of the medigun
this creates a kind of playstyle that results in people rotating in, getting knocked to red health, setting up an arrow to their medic directly next to them, and then re-engaging until one team wins or loses
the weapon is just way too efficient in that regard, it kind of destroys the need to have an efficient healspread

what if we add monoculus to compettive?!?

imo crossbow should just heal over time at the same rate that a medigun does

like if you hit a 150 arrow on some dude itd still only gonna heal him at 24/sec until it heals 150 or hes full.

you could even weaken arrow building that way just by making it so that the uber gained is dependant on how long the heals last (like medigun) instead of the amount healed. so you couldnt just like stack it on one dude every second.

I don't think any of you guys realize the utter joy that the inclusion of the crossbow brought to medic mains. Do you enjoy watching grown men break down into tears?

:'(

*Note i'm talking about the crazy people talking about banning/significantly nerfing the crossbow. IMO the crossbow is EXACTLY what the medic needed, i.e. a skill based and exciting way to contribute to the game. A solution that would cause less medic mains to burn down your house might be adding skillful mechanics to the other medic primaries and buffing them just enough to match the current crossbow.

did u guys kno that if you shoot somones head while scoped wit sniper rifle it does mor dmg

yea its fun to shoot arrows at ppl because its fuckin broken
theres z e r o reason why a soldier can get healed 150 from across the map because a med got lucky and hit a mid air arrow

it got usage, but i meant it shouldve always been used exclusively still (like it is now), despite not being as strong as it is now. those things are actually pretty stupid though, as you said, and it should honestly just be how it used to be...LIKE A LOT OF CHANGES IN THIS GAME.

you're suggesting that if somebody hits an airshot it's just "lucky" and unfair. while that could entirely be the case, that's not really an issue, or at least you shouldn't find it to be one in my opinion. most of the time, it's not luck if the medic actually has good arrows. however, even if they hit a lucky arrow, it's the same thing as hitting a lucky airshot. the true problem with crossbows is what pelt explained; standing still for arrows a foot from your medic is quite unfair--being able to "lose" a pocket vs pocket 1v1 and just leave and get rehealed in an instant.

unfortunately, i'm sure if valve ever touches this weapon (in the next 5 years kek) they will make a ridiculously stupid decision, rendering it useless.