Hi all, we're doing another map poll for the upcoming season of ESEA. This time I'm doing the unthinkable and removing cp_badlands (maybe; you can vote in the poll to keep it in). The map has been played since the beginning of time with relatively few changes and based on data from map vetoes and some anecdotal evidence it is the least popular map in the rotation. Please vote on which map you'd like to see added to the map pool next season. Note that this is an unofficial poll and may not ultimately decide what changes will be made.
Just to clarify, we currently have 9 maps in the rotation, but either an 8 or 9 map rotation would work. I don't think there's an argument for making the pool larger than 9, though.
ESEA S29 MAP VOTE
Hi all, we're doing another map poll for the upcoming season of ESEA. This time I'm doing the unthinkable and removing cp_badlands (maybe; you can vote in the poll to keep it in). The map has been played since the beginning of time with relatively few changes and based on data from map vetoes and some anecdotal evidence it is the least popular map in the rotation. Please vote on which map you'd like to see added to the map pool next season. Note that this is an unofficial poll and may not ultimately decide what changes will be made.
Just to clarify, we currently have 9 maps in the rotation, but either an 8 or 9 map rotation would work. I don't think there's an argument for making the pool larger than 9, though.
[url=https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSekNdPD70BMOhZ8csPZIzJnq_bPpTBvun-E3elYAxi0r7ih4w/viewform?usp=sf_link]ESEA S29 MAP VOTE[/url]
can we remove cardinal instead
can we remove cardinal instead
trippacan we remove cardinal instead
pretty please
[quote=trippa]can we remove cardinal instead[/quote]
pretty please
remove granary add reckoner for more chaos
remove granary add reckoner for more chaos
-cardinal +prolands (the good version)
-cardinal +prolands (the good version)
-cardinal
-badlands
+bagel/reckoner/logjam
-cardinal
-badlands
+bagel/reckoner/logjam
no one vote for bagel its actually trash
no one vote for bagel its actually trash
Shouldn't the map pool be 7, like csgo, so each team bans 3 down to the last map? Instead of having 3 maps remaining and then a randomly selected one of the remaining? That's how the ban process was explained to me last season and it seemed really stupid to be randomly selected. Or increase each teams bans to 4?
Shouldn't the map pool be 7, like csgo, so each team bans 3 down to the last map? Instead of having 3 maps remaining and then a randomly selected one of the remaining? That's how the ban process was explained to me last season and it seemed really stupid to be randomly selected. Or increase each teams bans to 4?
replace badlands with prolands and replace cardinal with reckoner
replace badlands with prolands and replace cardinal with reckoner
remove granary and badlands, add logjam and reckoner
remove granary and badlands, add logjam and reckoner
-badlands -cardinal +reckoner +prolands
dont remove granary
-badlands -cardinal +reckoner +prolands
dont remove granary
i finally learn badlands and they wanna get rid of it
remove cardinal, add reckoner or logjam
i finally learn badlands and they wanna get rid of it
remove cardinal, add reckoner or logjam
please keep badlands, remove cardinal, add logjam
please keep badlands, remove cardinal, add logjam
trippacan we remove cardinal instead
safrixi finally learn badlands and they wanna get rid of it
remove cardinal, add reckoner or logjam
If you two weren't sandbagging IM you would have been at the meeting yesterday and could have voted to remove cardinal instead of badlands
[quote=trippa]can we remove cardinal instead[/quote]
[quote=safrix]i finally learn badlands and they wanna get rid of it
remove cardinal, add reckoner or logjam[/quote]
If you two weren't sandbagging IM you would have been at the meeting yesterday and could have voted to remove cardinal instead of badlands
Removing badlands and granary for more modern style maps will do so much good for the map pool and flow of matches. Make it happen.
Removing badlands and granary for more modern style maps will do so much good for the map pool and flow of matches. Make it happen.
Can we go back to the old scheduling system yet?
Can we go back to the old scheduling system yet?
MikeMatCan we go back to the old scheduling system yet?
This. Please. Any "new" maps have little to no chance to be played in this current banning system. I don't even know what I think about cardinal because there was no real reason to play cardinal last season (fun fact is last season was the first ever where I played zero viaduct games). It would have been a bad use of time. But if it were cardinal week then it would have been played and scrimmed a lot more. Doesn't mean people wouldn't complain or call it bad but it would have at least had a glimpse of a fair chance.
[quote=MikeMat]Can we go back to the old scheduling system yet?[/quote]
This. Please. Any "new" maps have little to no chance to be played in this current banning system. I don't even know what I think about cardinal because there was no real reason to play cardinal last season (fun fact is last season was the first ever where I played zero viaduct games). It would have been a bad use of time. But if it were cardinal week then it would have been played and scrimmed a lot more. Doesn't mean people wouldn't complain or call it bad but it would have at least had a glimpse of a fair chance.
last season was the worst season to add a new map to the map pool since because we chose what maps to play every week and because nobody wanted to risk their match by playing a map that a good chunk of the community doesn't know how to play, people never chose to play cardinal
while i'm not saying we should keep cardinal or remove it since i haven't played it at all to have an opinion on that, if we really want to try out new maps we have to go back to the old scheduling system we had 2 matches every week on the same map.
if we want to remove badlands i'd say we at least try to see prolands get played on esea for a season and see if we feel better about playing that than vanilla blands
if we def had to choose a map to replace badlands, having a 2nd koth map would be cool, reckoner is a decent map and so is logjam but most NA people have more experience playing reckoner than logjam so that's something to keep in mind
last season was the worst season to add a new map to the map pool since because we chose what maps to play every week and because nobody wanted to risk their match by playing a map that a good chunk of the community doesn't know how to play, people never chose to play cardinal
while i'm not saying we should keep cardinal or remove it since i haven't played it at all to have an opinion on that, if we really want to try out new maps we have to go back to the old scheduling system we had 2 matches every week on the same map.
if we want to remove badlands i'd say we at least try to see prolands get played on esea for a season and see if we feel better about playing that than vanilla blands
if we def had to choose a map to replace badlands, having a 2nd koth map would be cool, reckoner is a decent map and so is logjam but most NA people have more experience playing reckoner than logjam so that's something to keep in mind
- cardinal + reckoner its better tested and honestly way more fun.
-badlands +bagel another koth map would be nice and would make it more useful to practice koth.
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I dont ever want you to speak to my son granary ever again
- cardinal + reckoner its better tested and honestly way more fun.
-badlands +bagel another koth map would be nice and would make it more useful to practice koth.
[spoiler]I dont ever want you to speak to my son granary ever again[/spoiler]
How can people think being forced to play certain maps as opposed to controlling the outcome of what you play is better in any way. Current map ban system should most definitely stay and it’s more indicative to how playoff maps are picked
As for the maps badlands and granary are definitely outdated and should have been removed ages ago, really think people not giving cardinal a chance and just shit on the map before even attempting to learn how to play it or come up with strats for it.
How can people think being forced to play certain maps as opposed to controlling the outcome of what you play is better in any way. Current map ban system should most definitely stay and it’s more indicative to how playoff maps are picked
As for the maps badlands and granary are definitely outdated and should have been removed ages ago, really think people not giving cardinal a chance and just shit on the map before even attempting to learn how to play it or come up with strats for it.
bagel is the only decent alternative
bagel is the only decent alternative
garbugliobagel is the only decent alternative
Go bagel!
[quote=garbuglio]bagel is the only decent alternative[/quote]
Go bagel!
Mega reckoner hype.
-Cardinal, +Reckoner
Keep the bprolands
Mega reckoner hype.
-Cardinal, +Reckoner
Keep the bprolands
unpopular opinion but instead of removing a control points map why don't remove the ONE odd ball of the map pool and remove viaduct? it would make the entire map pool more consistent and avoid any possibility of a team preparing to play one thing and then playing another. im not trying to say all 5cp maps are the same, but in my opinion scrimming on process and then finding out you're playing badlands or playing gully and then finding out you have metalworks is a lot easier to adjust to then scrimming sunshine and then finding out you're playing viaduct.
(also if we're going to add another koth map synthetic is better than bagel)
unpopular opinion but instead of removing a control points map why don't remove the ONE odd ball of the map pool and remove viaduct? it would make the entire map pool more consistent and avoid any possibility of a team preparing to play one thing and then playing another. im not trying to say all 5cp maps are the same, but in my opinion scrimming on process and then finding out you're playing badlands or playing gully and then finding out you have metalworks is a lot easier to adjust to then scrimming sunshine and then finding out you're playing viaduct.
(also if we're going to add another koth map [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/48356/koth-synthetic]synthetic[/url] is better than bagel)
Rofl wanting to remove the best map in the game...
Rofl wanting to remove the best map in the game...