miwohonestly you have to be fucking retarded to hate/boycott esea now.
what the fuck are you doing in your bios and kernel and shit that somehow is just now an awful privacy violation? are you worried that kane is gonna steal your naked anime pics and bank passwords that are stored on your motherboard bios?
HOW many programs on your computer do you have installed that you havent compiled from source yourself and checked against the public MD5???? cause they all could, potentially, POTENTIALLY, go full blown stuxnet matrix on your ass and fuckin mix up all your files, 0 out your hard drive, and send your school homework over the net to a server in a abandoned stalin-era steel factory in the caucasus.
and if your job requires you to have confidential files, national security secrets, or HIPAA protected documents on your HOME COMPUTER, that you play tf2 and watch porn on, you work for someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing with regards to data security and your organization will probably go under by now because they can't afford to give their employees a company lenovo thinkpad.
PLEASE, by ALL MEANS, continue getting upset at every fresh lpkane post. i'm sure he is enjoying trolling the ever loving fuck out of the entirety of esea open and like half of IM.
everyone, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, who is "concerned about software privacy" had better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of a wildebeest on the wall in front of your PC.
Or else, you are fuckin dumb.
Hey this is some grade-A bullshit
Security is a sliding scale, a tradeoff between being secure and being practical/usable. For example, it's not practical or possible to compile every program yourself and check against a public md5, but you can be reasonably sure about the programs you run by only downloading from trusted, reputable sources, and by limiting the program to the minimum level of privilege it needs. You don't have to run arch and have a neckbeard to be secure. Downloading and running steam from the official steam website is reasonably secure. Downloading and running naked_girl_pic.exe from an obscure porn website is not.
Likewise, taking a program from a company known to have a history of poor security practices (passwords in plaintext), poor accountability (from earlier), and has actually installed malicious software in the past (BITCOINS AYY), and then giving this program kernel mode access to your computer 24/7 (Literally the highest privilege level possible) would generally be considered to be "fuckin dumb."
I understand that the TF2 community has pretty much no choice but to deal with it, but belittling people for being concerned about the security implications is quite fucked up. Anybody with no investment in tf2 would pretty much agree that trusting this client would be a terrible idea.
[quote=miwo]honestly you have to be fucking retarded to hate/boycott esea now.
what the fuck are you doing in your bios and kernel and shit that somehow is [i]just now[/i] an awful privacy violation? are you worried that kane is gonna steal your naked anime pics and bank passwords that are stored on your motherboard bios?
HOW many programs on your computer do you have installed that you havent compiled from source yourself and checked against the public MD5???? cause they all could, potentially, POTENTIALLY, go full blown stuxnet matrix on your ass and fuckin mix up all your files, 0 out your hard drive, and send your school homework over the net to a server in a abandoned stalin-era steel factory in the caucasus.
and if your job requires you to have confidential files, national security secrets, or HIPAA protected documents on your HOME COMPUTER, that you play tf2 and watch porn on, [i]you work for someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing with regards to data security[/i] and your organization will probably go under by now because they can't afford to give their employees a company lenovo thinkpad.
PLEASE, by ALL MEANS, continue getting upset at every fresh lpkane post. i'm sure he is enjoying trolling the ever loving fuck out of the entirety of esea open and like half of IM.
everyone, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, who is "concerned about software privacy" had better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of [url=http://computerfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gnu.png]a wildebeest[/url] on the wall in front of your PC.
Or else, you are fuckin dumb.[/quote]
[size=16][b]Hey this is some grade-A bullshit[/b][/size]
Security is a sliding scale, a tradeoff between being secure and being practical/usable. For example, it's not practical or possible to compile every program yourself and check against a public md5, but you can be reasonably sure about the programs you run by only downloading from trusted, reputable sources, and by limiting the program to the minimum level of privilege it needs. You don't have to run arch and have a neckbeard to be secure. Downloading and running steam from the official steam website is reasonably secure. Downloading and running naked_girl_pic.exe from an obscure porn website is not.
Likewise, taking a program from a company known to have a history of poor security practices ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2wl8qz/warning_esea_shows_complete_disregard_for_your/]passwords in plaintext[/url]), poor accountability ([url=http://i.imgur.com/vbJKsFr.png]from earlier[/url]), and has actually installed malicious software in the past (BITCOINS AYY), and then giving this program kernel mode access to your computer 24/7 ([url=http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/36o0c9/boycott_esea/crfy7qh]Literally the highest privilege level possible[/url]) would generally be considered to be "fuckin dumb."
I understand that the TF2 community has pretty much no choice but to deal with it, but belittling people for being concerned about the security implications is quite fucked up. Anybody with no investment in tf2 would pretty much agree that trusting this client would be a terrible idea.
you need kernel mode access to detect current private cheats.
you need kernel mode access to detect current private cheats.
[img]http://realfoodblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/grade-a-bullshit.jpg[/img]
miwohonestly you have to be fucking retarded to hate/boycott esea now.
what the fuck are you doing in your bios and kernel and shit that somehow is just now an awful privacy violation? are you worried that kane is gonna steal your naked anime pics and bank passwords that are stored on your motherboard bios?
and if your job requires you to have confidential files, national security secrets, or HIPAA protected documents on your HOME COMPUTER, that you play tf2 and watch porn on, you work for someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing with regards to data security and your organization will probably go under by now because they can't afford to give their employees a company lenovo thinkpad.
everyone, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, who is "concerned about software privacy" had better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of a wildebeest on the wall in front of your PC.
I agree with the quoted text
I work IT and Data Security, I deal with confidential shit all the time.
I have a separate laptop AND chromebook (it's perfect for when you're on the road and have to remote into a PC and if it breaks it's NBD since it's a 200 dollar machine) specifically for work.
If you're so damn worried about ESEA's client then just run it and hope shit down does so you can participate in a class-action.
[quote=miwo]honestly you have to be fucking retarded to hate/boycott esea now.
what the fuck are you doing in your bios and kernel and shit that somehow is [i]just now[/i] an awful privacy violation? are you worried that kane is gonna steal your naked anime pics and bank passwords that are stored on your motherboard bios?
and if your job requires you to have confidential files, national security secrets, or HIPAA protected documents on your HOME COMPUTER, that you play tf2 and watch porn on, [i]you work for someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing with regards to data security[/i] and your organization will probably go under by now because they can't afford to give their employees a company lenovo thinkpad.
everyone, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, who is "concerned about software privacy" had better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of [url=http://computerfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gnu.png]a wildebeest[/url] on the wall in front of your PC.
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I agree with the quoted text
I work IT and Data Security, I deal with confidential shit all the time.
I have a separate laptop AND chromebook (it's perfect for when you're on the road and have to remote into a PC and if it breaks it's NBD since it's a 200 dollar machine) specifically for work.
If you're so damn worried about ESEA's client then just run it and hope shit down does so you can participate in a class-action.
Geez, comp TF2 sounds like a battered wife who just can't leave their abuser..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpUfWz-rlc
"can't find a better mannnnnnnnnnn" :(
Geez, comp TF2 sounds like a battered wife who just can't leave their abuser..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpUfWz-rlc[/youtube]
"can't find a better mannnnnnnnnnn" :(
so hold on is the kernel level access/zeroing out my bios actually true?
so hold on is the kernel level access/zeroing out my bios actually true?
yes i too like to compare the actions of my video game service provider to domestic abuse which regularly ruins lives all over the world
yes i too like to compare the actions of my video game service provider to domestic abuse which regularly ruins lives all over the world
IcyWindso hold on is the kernel level access/zeroing out my bios actually true?
Yep, that's how most BIOS flashing utilities work. ESEA obviously wouldn't do it, I don't see them gaining anything from it.
[quote=IcyWind]so hold on is the kernel level access/zeroing out my bios actually true?[/quote]
Yep, that's how most BIOS flashing utilities work. ESEA obviously wouldn't do it, I don't see them gaining anything from it.
miwohad better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of a wildebeest on the wall in front of your PC.
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
[quote=miwo]had better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of [url=http://computerfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gnu.png]a wildebeest[/url] on the wall in front of your PC.[/quote]
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
vibhavpmiwohad better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of a wildebeest on the wall in front of your PC.
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Thank you for educating us. :^)
[quote=vibhavp][quote=miwo]had better be running tf2 on Arch linux with a framed, RMS signed poster print of [url=http://computerfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gnu.png]a wildebeest[/url] on the wall in front of your PC.[/quote]
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.[/quote]
Thank you for educating us. :^)
after the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get...
http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?
after the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get... [img]http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg[/img]
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?
I had the same problem, it wound up resolving itself but it took like 2 days before it did
not sure if there's anything you can do, it seems like it's on esea's end
I had the same problem, it wound up resolving itself but it took like 2 days before it did
not sure if there's anything you can do, it seems like it's on esea's end
dflameafter the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get... http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?
You could try this:
Go to chrome://net-internals/#dns and click Clear Host Cache
Hope it helps
[quote=dflame]after the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get... [img]http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg[/img]
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?[/quote]
You could try [url=http://superuser.com/a/911688]this[/url]:
[quote]Go to chrome://net-internals/#dns and click Clear Host Cache[/quote]
Hope it helps
dflameafter the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get... http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?
Try opening a command prompt and enter ipconfig /flushdns, which should clear your local DNS cache and force your computer to get the location of the ESEA website fresh from your local DNS server, although it would be an unusually long cache to have not seen the change. If it still doesn't work then your local DNS server could be at fault or you might have something overriding it like a hosts file entry.
[quote=dflame]after the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get... [img]http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg[/img]
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?[/quote]
Try opening a command prompt and enter ipconfig /flushdns, which should clear your local DNS cache and force your computer to get the location of the ESEA website fresh from your local DNS server, although it would be an unusually long cache to have not seen the change. If it still doesn't work then your local DNS server could be at fault or you might have something overriding it like a hosts file entry.
GentlemanJondflameafter the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get... http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?
Try opening a command prompt and enter ipconfig /flushdns, which should clear your local DNS cache and force your computer to get the location of the ESEA website fresh from your local DNS server, although it would be an unusually long cache to have not seen the change. If it still doesn't work then your local DNS server could be at fault or you might have something overriding it like a hosts file entry.
I've tried ipconfig /flushdns in command prompt already and I tried what Jerm said above and that didn't work either... It's so weird cuz it worked fine until the site went down the other day.
UPDATE: It randomly fixed apparently after I tried a bunch of stuff (not sure what fixed it) but thanks guys
[quote=GentlemanJon][quote=dflame]after the most recent ESEA update or w/e I can no longer connect to esea's website. Whenever I try to load esea.net, this is what i get... [img]http://i.imgur.com/OK5XWPu.jpg[/img]
Anyone got any ideas? I tried checking my firewall and I haven't really done anything else to try to fix it because I'm not sure what to do. Anyone else getting this problem or is it just me?[/quote]
Try opening a command prompt and enter ipconfig /flushdns, which should clear your local DNS cache and force your computer to get the location of the ESEA website fresh from your local DNS server, although it would be an unusually long cache to have not seen the change. If it still doesn't work then your local DNS server could be at fault or you might have something overriding it like a hosts file entry.[/quote]
I've tried ipconfig /flushdns in command prompt already and I tried what Jerm said above and that didn't work either... It's so weird cuz it worked fine until the site went down the other day.
UPDATE: It randomly fixed apparently after I tried a bunch of stuff (not sure what fixed it) but thanks guys
[s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmm781WyPb4[/s]
edit: already posted here: http://teamfortress.tv/post/433885/controversial-interview-with-esea-admin
Esea.net changed ip because theyre using cloudflare now. Some DNS servers take a long time to update :/
Esea.net changed ip because theyre using cloudflare now. Some DNS servers take a long time to update :/